'Ordain a lady' campaign for women to become priests goes viral – VIDEO
Song pleads: ‘Hey, I was baptized, and this is crazy, But God just called me, so ordain a lady’
Published Saturday, January 5, 2013, 8:28 AM
Updated Sunday, January 6, 2013, 9:38 AM
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bunchesofun | Jan 06, 2013, 05:48 PM EST
This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard lately. "Don't listen to St. Paul". ??? So they don't believe in the Bible? How can they call themselves Catholic. Stop trying to change our church and just go somewhere that DOES ordain women and we'll both be happy.
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jacersagain | Jan 06, 2013, 05:43 PM EST
(…more) While Mary did speak and preach to the locals about the Risen Christ, she never performed the miracle of the Holy Eucharist as every priest does at Mass each single day (350,000 Masses every day: that equates to 6 Masses every hour, 1 Mass every ten minutes of yours and my life, in every place on earth, by every race and nationality, using every language all around the world. Swallow that fact). She later spent her time alone in that cave in the beautiful Sainte Baume mountain range for 30 years. Local tradition has it that she was visited by angels each day and elevated by them (yep, physically lifted up, to those who don’t know the meaning, by spiritual beings) to a place above her cave and fed by them with the Body & Blood of her (and our) Christ and that she survived on that feeding alone for 30 years. (Not unusual; a bed-ridden nun in Germany also lived by this feeding).The place on top of the mountain above the cave that she was elevated to daily is today marked by a small church. The locals will tell you that Mary never ever aspired or pretended to be a priestess.
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jacersagain | Jan 06, 2013, 05:37 PM EST
I enjoyed the video and song; it sounded like someone plagiarised the music of another quietly-bounce-able song that I heard some years ago (was it “Cherish the Love”?). >> I had the privilege to visit St. Mary Magdalene’s cave in the mountain range of Sainte Baume, not far from Marseilles in the south of France some years ago. I alsohad the privilegeto speak with the locals. The local people who live there are fierce defenders of Mary’s legacy in the area. They would tell you that the common perception of Mary being the “Apostle (messenger) OF the Apostles” is totally incorrect. They would tell you she was the Apostle (messenger) TO the Christ-appointed male Apostles after she discovered the empty tomb and saw the Risen Christ, that she was never a priest “per se”. (More…)
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jacersagain | Jan 06, 2013, 05:09 PM EST
No, eiriamach… watch what you say… women as “Eucharistic Ministers” is totally correct but your determined inference that women were sanctioned by our Messiah, our Christ, to be Eucharistic Priests ordained to execute the daily miracle of the Holy Eucharist is completely off the wall of history. You should well know that…. Our Christ did, however, tell everyone of us to go tell everyone of the Good News. Thanks for the personally enlightening post btw... I stand to be corrected by you but it seems you have finally exposed yourself as a former Catholic (nun?) who is now a follower of the Episcopal Churches. Keep up your questioning eiramach, keep challenging… some day you will find and recognise the truth. On this 6th day of January, the day that our fellow non-Catholic and Orthodox Christians celebrate the visit of the Wise Men (not of the wise women, and certainly not of the angry equality-chasing women) to the temporary home of Mary and Joseph, may I wish you a very happy and holy new year in your search for truth. Right now, as I type this, I have candles burning around my home’s little Chrismas ‘crib’ – a remembrance of whatever happened in Bet Lehem all those years ago. Yours in Sincerity, Jacers with xx).
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eiriamach | Jan 06, 2013, 03:11 PM EST
We know that early Christian communities had women Eucharistic ministers (priests) based on their understanding of Jesus' intentions, and the pope's opinion on a matter of tradition and discipline is neither infallible nor based in scripture. From its founding after the War of Independence, the Episcopal Church in the USA has been careful to maintain apostolic succession in ordinations. Since 2006 Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori has served as the first female Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church, USA. Her role makes her also the first female primate in the Anglican Communion. Other female Anglican bishops include Bishop Barbara Harris, consecrated as bishop in 1989 and serving Massachusetts Episcopal Diocese; Bishop Penny Jamieson, New Zealand, since 1990; Bishop Victoria Matthews, suffragen bishop since 1994; Bishop Kay Goldsworthy of Perth, Australia, since 2008; Bishop Nerva Aguilera, Cuba, 2007; and Bishop Ellinah Wamukoya, Swaziland, 2012. Neither the Church of Ireland nor the Scottish Episcopal Church has yet elected a woman bishop. The General Synod of the C of E has again refused to sanction the ordination of women, but it will occur, probably soon. Whatever you think Jesus was, he was not narrow-minded; neither is ECUSA.
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PiperMac52 | Jan 06, 2013, 03:04 PM EST
When will the "progressives" get it? The Catholic church will NEVER ordain women or it will cease to be the Catholic church at least as established by Christ. It is doctrine and doctrine can NOT change even if the Pope wanted it to. The difference between the Catholic church and the numerous Protestant denominations(established by men after the "reformation")is that the sacred traditions encoded in doctrine, the findings of the magesterium dating back 2000 years are immutable. I would suggest that those wishing to be ordained join a progressive protestant church which has embraced all of the debasements of the culture. Women have always played a crucial role in the life of the church. In fact many women Saints were an inspiration during times of turbulence over the centuries in holding true to the faith when heresies and oppression were the rule. Sadly, progressives have subverted and ignored the separate but distinct roles between men and women. They want a sexless society where there is no difference. God however did create each sex differently in his wisdom as much as the cultural relativists may choose to ignore it.
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Madeliene | Jan 06, 2013, 02:57 PM EST
NO NO NO!
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Nicomax | Jan 06, 2013, 01:20 PM EST
Didn't we recently learn of the possibility that Jesus had a 'wife', or at least some close followers other than just men? If any of that is true then why not move ahead in current times to include the other 50% of the population in preaching the message of Jesus? What could actually go wrong, and just the opposite may occur, such as a more positive image of the church.
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cillowen | Jan 06, 2013, 01:09 PM EST
call them the Israeli wunderkind Madelines who served jesus
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joan1954 | Jan 06, 2013, 11:55 AM EST
it will never happen so forget about it.
FRankly if Catholic women want to be
priests then join the Episcopal church
and it has a priesthood open to
women. But, if one looks at the Angliscan church
they have women priests but not bishops.
Frankly I would never want their job. Male
Anglican priests have mentioned that there
are times it is difficult to juggle church
and family.
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patrickesq | Jan 06, 2013, 11:13 AM EST
As one Pope noted:'to err is human...'. The infallible Church hierarchy pays little heed to Alexander's dictum. Instead they prefer to interpret scant biblical evidence to support the notion that only males can be ordained to minister to the spiritual needs of the faithful. Despite the growing shortages of male vocations and a dwindling number of male priests, many of whom are geriatrics, the
As one Pope once noted:'to err is human...'
But the infallible Church hierarchy pays little heed to this dictum.Based on scant biblical evidence they prefer to believe that women have been ordained by God to play a secondary role in His/Her Church. This testicular belief persists despite the widespread decline of male vocations in the Western world. As a result geriatric priests and male deacons are pressed into service to fill the void.
As one Pope noted: 'to err is human...' The Church hierarchy pays little heed to this dictum when speaking about doctrinal matters. Despite a widespread decline in the Western world of male vocations and the need to keep geriatric priests in pronged service, augmented by newly recruited male deacons, The Church Fathers continue to exclude females from the priesthood. This testicular prejudice saps the strength of a Church that is increasingly deemed irrelevant .
A Church that cannot admit error, or reform itself, is destined to become a relic of itself. Can there be Divine forgiveness for unwarranted gender discrimination?
Church Fathers prefer to exclude women from their ranks, and deny them equal rights to fully participate in God's Church. Will they receive Divine forgiveness for their errors ?
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katieherk | Jan 06, 2013, 10:50 AM EST
It'll never happen!
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Carroll09 | Jan 06, 2013, 10:08 AM EST
So, they claim to be Catholic? Yet these "Catholics" are, via this song, would advise their flock not to listen to St. Paul - hmmm...doesn't sound very Catholic to me. Either you believe, as actual Catholics do, that Scripture is the inspired Word of God, or you don't - there is no in between where one can decide what they like and forget about what they don't like. "Some Pope in a hat" is in their way - so as "Catholics" they appear not to accept the authority of the Pope and they certainly do not seem to have any respect for him. Whatever one thinks of the Catholic Church, these two things alone are most certainly not hallmarks of Catholics. They have set themselves up against the Catholic Church and have cut themselves off - they think they know better than St Paul, the Pope, and, ultimately, Christ. One must ask, then, why they even want to be associated with the Catholic Church...there is an agenda there, and methinks it is not a spiritual one...
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casualMBA | Jan 05, 2013, 09:35 PM EST
Reachin' on that lead ("One of the oldest..." a bit, Antoinette, no? Thought I noticed a few dedicated nuns (they are women) along the way - not to mention Church history - and they belonged to organizations. As to the lyrics' rationale, yawn.
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