Orange Order march marred with violence as petrol bombs thrown at police

I smile everyday schon when I read your idiotic dribblings

Deary me, you'd think the poor proddies were the ones breaking the law , whereas it is those poor Romaning Catholics who have traveled far and wide to be offended. Strange there is so much fury when 200 of the local Roman Catholics actually lined the parade route to watch. They must have liked the music, otherwise, they could have sat at home with their soundproof doors and windows closed and they wouldn't have been offended at all. Typical Irishism, "I'll travel miles to be offended and then wreck my community no matter what the cost. I want to chase jobs away 'cause I'm a lazy git." I don't suppose you were there protesting seanomelb. Probably watched the highlights on TV or YouTube. The Orange men were celebrating a victory by King William sponsored by Pope Alexander the VIII against the deposed James II of England, who wasn't king. Now let's see, that means yous must support James! And there's me thinking that you hated the English? And what's wrong with remembering a great victory from only 300 years ago. Anyone celebrate Easter? and that's for a death 2000 years ago. Any Yanks here? You guys celebrate the 4th of July 1776 (US Declaration of Independence for the uninformed). Grow up and get a life you lot. You should be ashamed of the rioting not the parades. And if you like nit picking, it was the Londonderry Defenders for your information. Praise the Lord and pass the ammo, eh seanomelb? ah, go on. Smile.

I think people need to remember that there are Catholics AND Protestants that live on this stretch of road. I recommend that people goto Youtube and search for "Ardoyne comparisons" to check out the short video comparing the Orange parade with the Republican parade that happened within 90 mins of each other at Ardoyne. My own opinion is that people have the right to walk but not to deliberately offend... and people have the right to protest but not to cause violence and destroy their own community with rioting.

The orange Order is the Klu Klux Klan without robes. They should be held in distain by any right-minded person.

why can't the "statutory body" work out a nice marching route through a local city dump?

Asking certain elements within Orangeism to cease and desist from marching/parading around/past/through Irish Catholic/nationalist/republican areas of NI is like asking dogs not to pee on lamposts. For many Catholics in NI, the PSNI are just the RUC in sheeps clothing, disproportionately representative of their numbers. PSNI cap badge centrepiece is the Saint Patrick's Cross - which neither community in NI recognise, but which may betray HM Govt ambitions. RTE (Revised Telefiche Air-on) is increasingly recognised by politically conscious and historically literate Free Staters as terminally and eccentrically West Brit - in the absence of Govt intevention to curb their occupational narcissism!

Just a little bit michaelidaho

Occassio, Two corrections: First, the PSNI Catholic percentage of officers is 29.7%. This is a far cry from the days of the RUC. Second, the PSNI is not also known as the RUC, RIC and ABC specials (sic). The RUC was disbanded after the GFA, the RIC was disbanded at the creation of NI in 1920 and renamed the RUC, and the "Specials" forces were disbanded in 1970. Just as the police in the southern USA have come along way from the days of Bull Conner, so have the police in NI in terms of their respective racial and religious makeups.

occassio - errr, think that would be 'descendants'...

The Orange Order marchers are the philosophical ancestors of the Derry defenders who claimed a mythic victory over the “Papists” in the 1688-89 Siege of Derry, and ever since have been using it as a rallying cry suitable for every political, religious and social situation. Remember, “"No Surrender, No Retreat!”? However, after four hundred years the British Government still hasn’t recognized recompense for the defenders, their efforts and nearly 8,000 lives lost. In, "The Siege of Derry in Ulster Protestant Mythology", author Ian McBride writes that, “Peter Robinson (with the help of the House of Common's researchers) has estimated that the garrison is owed about £25 million pounds, before taking interest into account!” It boggles my mind that at the expense of peace in Ireland (yes, all of Ireland), the Orange Order remains staunchly and obstinately faithful to a government that never has returned the favor. Michaelidaho. Much like the American south where county/state police as a force never represented or protected African-Americans, the PSNI (aka RUC, aka RIC, aka ABC Specals) has never been a force that represents all the people but largely represent and support the unionist, Protestant, majority. About 18% of the force is Catholic with about 40% of the population Catholic. Any corrections to these numbers?

These orangies have to be the strangest meanest spirited people on the planet?....So insecure about who they are now they march to celebrate a victory hundreds of years ago?...they them selves had no part in the victory but try to grab credit? cant imagine the orginal victors would be pleased to share honors with these weenies ...they also like to throw rocks at little girls?...where do they come from?

seanomelb, there would be some busted heads if what you described took place.

Every year this happens. The Contentious parades must come to an end. They only represent a small fraction of the 3500 Orange Order parades and rallies. By eliminating the contentious ones, the bigots could go ahead and revel in their lunacy and no one would be injured, jailed, gassed or beaten. Police would not have to risk their lives or their ethics.

Irish central, come on, show the people the huge bonfires that were getting built weeks before the parade, most over two stories high, and nobody stopped them. Show them the Irish flag stuck at the top of each bonfire waiting to be burned, all built near nationalist/catholic area's, set alight and they party and sing all through the night about burning the catholic people. Then below you get people who know nothing about what goes on saying.." naughty Catholics for losing your temper, get over it " I am disgusted that the national TV stations in the south did not show any of it, and I hope our government leader Kenny has the balls to make a formal complaint about the burning of the Irish flag. Of course there would be hell to pay if even one Union Jack had been burned by the Catholics. The Orange Order has more than doubled in size in the last 5 years, that should tell us something.

Sirpeter I finally watched the video this evening. It was a disgusting display of sectarian triumphalism – an Orange Order band circling a dozen times in front of a Catholic church bellowing out a low-class, vile, sectarian song that is a favorite of Ranger football fans. It was especially nauseating seeing several small children parading with the band. Those particular band members are complete low-lifes. Although, there has been a lot of progress, evidently, the police are still not doing their job in promoting impartiality. They should have been stationed at this Catholic Church and when these idiot, sectarian thugs began circling around singing that vile song (a violation of the Parades Commission guidelines), the police should have moved in and packed the whole lot of them into waiting police vans. No excuses ... the Orange Order should expel this particular local band if they want to maintain what little credibility they have.