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Old Spanish document suggests Irish were in America before Columbus

1521 Spanish reports indicates Irish may have settled in Georgia and the Carolinas


Peter Martyr d'Anghiera, a historian and professor, wrote about what would become Georgia and the Carolinas in his report named "De Orbe Novo” (About the New World.)
Peter Martyr d'Anghiera, a historian and professor, wrote about what would become Georgia and the Carolinas in his report named "De Orbe Novo” (About the New World.)
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While Christopher Columbus is generally credited with having discovered America in 1492, a 1521 Spanish report provides inklings of evidence that there were, in fact, Irish people settled in America prior to Columbus’ journey.

“Researchers feel certain that there was a colony of Irish folk living in what is now South Carolina, when Christopher Columbus “thought” he had discovered the New World,” writes Richard Thornton for The Examiner.

In 1520, Peter Martyr d'Anghiera, a historian and professor, was appointed by Carlos V to be chronicler for the new Council of the Indies.

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Though Martyr died in 1526, his report, founded on several weeks of interviews, was published posthumously in a book named “De Orbe Novo” (About the New World.) The book has been published and translated numerous times in the centuries since then. The passages concerning the land that would become Georgia and the Carolinas were always included, but generally ignored, says Thornton.

While interviewing Spanish colonists, Martyr took note of their vicious treatment of Chicora Indians. However, he also included in his report that the Spanish colonists had a very good relationship with another nearby colony, which Martyr reported to be named Duhare.

Physically, the people of Duhare appeared to be European according to the Spanish colonists in the area. The people of Duhare had red to brown hair, tan skin and gray eyes, and were noticeably taller than the Spanish. According to Spanish accounts, the people of Duhare were Caucasian, though their houses and pottery were similar to those of American Indians.

The king of Duhare was said to be named Datha and was described by the Spanish as being a giant, even when compared to his peers. He had five children and a wife as tall as him. Datha had brightly colored paint or tattoos on his skin that seemed to distinguish him from the commoners.

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Despite Martyr’s report that included the apparently unique tribe of the Duhare, the believed predecessors of the Creek Indian tribe, more recent scholars are wary of the possibility of a Caucasian tribe at that time in America.

“In 1922 the Smithsonian Institute published, “Early History of the Creek Indians and Their Neighbors” by renowned ethnologist, John W. Swanton. It included much of Martyr’s passages on Duhare, but was prefaced with contemptuous remarks by Swanton that the story couldn’t be true and that the Duhare were probably a Siouan tribe,” explains Thornton.


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Gandhara. i meant. Thats the Journey Monkey magic went on. O'Hara of the Dalcassians were big in Armagh. And during the Troubles they had a dastardly reputation for Scalping the heads off of the SAS troopers they captured. WTF this must mean something to someone else if I can decipher these this.
Ghandhara Ghandara they say it was in India...you wanna fight...fight me!
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It certainly is possible the Irish visited America. The Vikings were in Ireland by 795 AD and is not a very long leap of faith to extrapolate that the Viking vessels were copied by the Irish or some Vikings may have settled in Ireland and the shipbuilding skills were passed on to the Irish. Is is also likely the Vikings and "native" Irish population intermarried or at least intermingled. Anyway, lets limit Christopher Columbus to being a visitor to America in 1492.
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It certainly is possible the Irish visited America. The Vikings were in Ireland by 795 AD and is not a very long leap of faith to extrapolate that the Viking vessels were copied by the Irish or some Vikings may have settled in Ireland and the shipbuilding skills were passed on to the Irish. Is is also likely the Vikings and "native" Irish population intermarried or at least intermingled. Anyway, lets limit Christopher Columbus to being a visitor to America in 1492.
It certainly is possible the Irish visited America. The Vikings were in Ireland by 795 AD and is not a very long leap of faith to extrapolate that the Viking vessels were copied by the Irish or some Vikings may have settled in Ireland and the shipbuilding skills were passed on to the Irish. Is is also likely the Vikings and "native" Irish population intermarried or at least intermingled. Anyway, lets limit Christopher Columbus to being a visitor to America in 1492.
It certainly is possible the Irish visited America. The Vikings were in Ireland by 795 AD and is not a very long leap of faith to extrapolate that the Viking vessels were copied by the Irish or some Vikings may have settled in Ireland and the shipbuilding skills were passed on to the Irish. Is is also likely the Vikings and "native" Irish population intermarried or at least intermingled. Anyway, lets limit Christopher Columbus to being a visitor to America in 1492.
It certainly is possible the Irish visited America. The Vikings were in Ireland by 795 AD and is not a very long leap of faith to extrapolate that the Viking vessels were copied by the Irish or some Vikings may have settled in Ireland and the shipbuilding skills were passed on to the Irish. Is is also likely the Vikings and "native" Irish population intermarried or at least intermingled. Anyway, lets limit Christopher Columbus to being a visitor to America in 1492.
It certainly is possible the Irish visited America. The Vikings were in Ireland by 795 AD and is not a very long leap of faith to extrapolate that the Viking vessels were copied by the Irish or some Vikings may have settled in Ireland and the shipbuilding skills were passed on to the Irish. Is is also likely the Vikings and "native" Irish population intermarried or at least intermingled. Anyway, lets limit Christopher Columbus to being a visitor to America in 1492.
It certainly is possible the Irish visited America. The Vikings were in Ireland by 795 AD and is not a very long leap of faith to extrapolate that the Viking vessels were copied by the Irish or some Vikings may have settled in Ireland and the shipbuilding skills were passed on to the Irish. Is is also likely the Vikings and "native" Irish population intermarried or at least intermingled. Anyway, lets limit Christopher Columbus to being a visitor to America in 1492.
It certainly is possible the Irish visited America. The Vikings were in Ireland by 795 AD and is not a very long leap of faith to extrapolate that the Viking vessels were copied by the Irish or some Vikings may have settled in Ireland and the shipbuilding skills were passed on to the Irish. Is is also likely the Vikings and "native" Irish population intermarried or at least intermingled. Anyway, lets limit Christopher Columbus to being a visitor to America in 1492.
Regardless of whether or not the Irish were in North America, the Vikings certainly were here long before Columbus. What we do know is that Columbus was lost and thought he was in India. I believe many history books still claim Columbus discovered America and haven't taken the trouble to correct their errors. There really was no discovery, America was already here and had an indigenous population of various tribes. Unfortunately the "white man" arrived and over time decimated the native Americans, stole their land and forced them to live in specific areas like cattle with little to no opportunity to maintain their customs and lifestyle. Those that were not killed were lied to and forced to accept whatever was offered even though those promises were broken. If you are not white in America, (at least so far) you are at a disadvantage. Sorry I got off track but Columbus was not here first and didn't discover America.
There was a tribe of native Americans out in nebraska called the OMahers. Definitely of Irish origin. They gave their name to the state capital, Omaha.




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