Old Spanish document suggests Irish were in America before Columbus

I am surprized this was missed but "Du" is french for "From" so it is likely referring to "O" in gaelic, meaning "Son Of" - translated it likely means O'Hare. Also Datha could be Dáithí, meaning David.

@anglo-nutzi “There is no evidence of Irish ships.” The evidence is that they arrived in Spain and Ireland from the Black Sea via Atlantic sea routes. You wouldn’t expect physical evidence as the vessels would have been wood and less numerous and more ancient than triremes or quinqueremes of the Peloponnesian or Punic wars, few of which survive. History provides numerous examples of different technologies regressing in societies for a variety of reasons.

@anglo-nutzi “There is no evidence of Irish ships.” The evidence is that they arrived in Spain and Ireland from the Black Sea via Atlantic sea routes. You wouldn’t expect physical evidence as the vessels would have been wood and less numerous and more ancient than triremes or quinqueremes of the Peloponnesian or Punic wars, few of which survive. History provides numerous examples of different technologies regressing in societies for a variety of reasons.

@anglo-nutzi “There is no evidence of Irish ships.” The evidence is that they arrived in Spain and Ireland from the Black Sea via Atlantic sea routes. You wouldn’t expect physical evidence as the vessels would have been wood and less numerous and more ancient than triremes or quinqueremes of the Peloponnesian or Punic wars, few of which survive. History provides numerous examples of different technologies regressing in societies for a variety of reasons.

It is well known that the Choctaw tribe of Native Americans has many sub-Chiefs and Chiefs named McCURTAIN during the last hhe last half of the 1800s and early 1900s. The last of these was Chief Greenwood McCurtain who held the title up to the time that Oklahomo was opened to white settlers. I should also mention that Choctaws contributed $170. to Irisg Famine relief in the late 1840s.

IC has become a bigotry site, and a bit of a comedy with comments over the last few years. The hatred towards the irish goes on and on, plus two or three of it's regulars are completly mad. Once again we see them fighting over who owns what piece of land. The word "discovered" is the white mans excuse for stealing land from anyone who did not have white skin, what does it matter if an irish group lived among the rightful owners, the indians, again a name the white man called them. Can someone tell me what the land was called before the white's landed on it. Same goes for Australia ( the aborigines ) etc.

@ Redneck56 Thank you for the info about the Shawnee noting white people and about Madoc. I will be looking more into this. I too believe the Irish had the capability to travel to America

sorry,ive done what i have been giving out to everyone else about,multiple entries,you only have to touch send once or it goes multiple,once again sorry.

sorry,ive done what i have been giving out to everyone else about,multiple entries,you only have to touch send once or it goes multiple,once again sorry.

sorry,ive done what i have been giving out to everyone else about,multiple entries,you only have to touch send once or it goes multiple,once again sorry.

columbas had very little idea of where he was,and he was a murdering thieving slaver, if the irish were in america they went across the atlantic in cow hide giant corracles,yeh right,LEIF ERICSAN and viking long boat techknology sounds a lot more likely,unless he called in and gave a load of paddies a lift?as for contemptously dissmissing ireland in the space race,we are going to land a man on the sun,how you may ask,simples,we is going at night.

columbas had very little idea of where he was,and he was a murdering thieving slaver, if the irish were in america they went across the atlantic in cow hide giant corracles,yeh right,LEIF ERICSAN and viking long boat techknology sounds a lot more likely,unless he called in and gave a load of paddies a lift?as for contemptously dissmissing ireland in the space race,we are going to land a man on the sun,how you may ask,simples,we is going at night.

columbas had very little idea of where he was,and he was a murdering thieving slaver, if the irish were in america they went across the atlantic in cow hide giant corracles,yeh right,LEIF ERICSAN and viking long boat techknology sounds a lot more likely,unless he called in and gave a load of paddies a lift?as for contemptously dissmissing ireland in the space race,we are going to land a man on the sun,how you may ask,simples,we is going at night.

Freeman: If you ever actually read any of wounded knees comments you would know he is certainly no British apologist. In fact he is far from it.

Fantasists like posters Freeman and seanomel who believe that Columbus stopped in Galway on his way to the New World ought to check out a map of the world. To suggest that Columbus made the detour north from Seville (must be 1500 miles by sea) in order to say a prayer in Galway is mindless nonsense. Of course this dopey duo show further ignorance, for they obviously don't know that Columbus' log books survive, which detail his voyage day by day.