President Obama's DREAM visa bill may reunite Northern Irish family
The McAllister family fled the Troubles in 1988 and their youngest children remain undocumented as a result
Published Wednesday, June 20, 2012, 7:18 AM
Updated Wednesday, June 20, 2012, 1:10 PM
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BrianO | Jun 22, 2012, 10:23 AM EDT
Ephraim, the reference to guys in your post was half in fun and half to show how easy it is to pretend outrage, never apologize for saying what you mean, it makes people believe it's alright to control speech.
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EphraimKibbey | Jun 21, 2012, 05:16 PM EDT
@BrianO - I use "guys" very loosely in coloquial speech for both genders when talking about a group of people as in "Hi guys!" I apologize for the informal usage and in future I will remember that the strict IC comment standards require that we refrain from such frivolity. I live by the banks of the Ohio so that is the closest I will get to a body of water this weekend but thanks anyway. Have a good weekend yourself and the rest of the week as well!
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Bythebay | Jun 21, 2012, 03:39 PM EDT
pilib04, Loyalists refers to those in NORTHERN IRELAND who support remaining part of the United Kingdom despite 30 years of terrorism. England has no such split or divisiveness. Hence the comment there are no Loyalists in England. You've never been to England. There are several million in England with Irish ancestry. Got it now??
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BrianO | Jun 21, 2012, 11:48 AM EDT
Ephraim, your logic is getting looser and looser trying to cover for your boss. Fast and Furious as used by the obama administration was an attack on the second amendment. you know those bitter clingers, or maybe typical white people, you choose. Are your polls of likely voters or are they propaganda?
Convenient you who knows all the legislation has no memory of the kennedy immigration policy that closed the door on english speaking immigrants. How sexist of you to refer to congress as guys, do you hate all women or just congressional ones (threw that in for laughs). Enjoy the weekend time to hit the beach.
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EphraimKibbey | Jun 21, 2012, 12:32 AM EDT
@BrianO – Sorry, I am familiar with much of JFK’s administration (though I was in High School at the time) but I am not familiar with his immigration policy or its effect on the Irish People. I do know that Reagan, Daddy Bush, Clinton and W. all issued executive orders regarding immigration. I do know what the poll that just hit the papers yesterday indicates regarding this executive order on children of illegal immigrants. 64% of all likely voters agreed with the order. 65% of independents agreed with it. 53% of likely voters said they would now vote for Obama in November (as opposed to 48% in the last pole.) It appears that the American electorate likes a man of action. They especially like it when he is fulfilling their wishes (73% approved of the real Dream Act in 2010) by going around a do nothing congress with a single digit approval rating. Only 40% (26% of independents) said they would still vote for Romney. I know that Romney seems tongue-tied on the matter. I wonder what he will say to the Hispanic group that he is scheduled to meet with later today. This may have been a stroke of sheer genius on Obama’s part. He seems to be playing Harry Truman to Romney’s Dewey. The stupid guys in congress do not get it even now. Instead of voting on the Transportation Bill and the President’s Jobs Bill which together would add 2 to 3 million jobs to our nation’s economy, they are trying to catch Holder and Obama in some imagined plot to take away my guns. I’m an avid shooter and gun collector but I am not a gun nut. The “throw bricks through their windows” and “we’re cleaning our guns” guy who started all this waste of my tax dollars needs to be arrested for inciting violence and the Bush officials who started Fast & Furious need to be hauled in before congress.
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pilib04 | Jun 20, 2012, 07:44 PM EDT
Curitiba, are you kidding? There are plenty of Loyalists in London.
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kerthialfad | Jun 20, 2012, 06:19 PM EDT
Did they overstay a US visa or enter from Canada illegally without inspection?
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Curitiba | Jun 20, 2012, 04:38 PM EDT
Could they not have gone to London? I've met plenty of Irish there, but I have never ever met a Loyalist here. I imagine Mr McAllister would be totally safe here.
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hooligan6a | Jun 20, 2012, 04:05 PM EDT
BrendanDunphy, don't care if they are Irish, Mexican, Russian, or Chinese. Let them wait
in line like everyone else. We don't need any more illegals taking jobs away from Americans.
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Bythebay | Jun 20, 2012, 02:47 PM EDT
This is NOT a bill, a bill is presented to the House of Representatives or the Senate and has to be passed by each, then signed into law by the President. The Congress, eg. the House of Representatives and Senate were circumvented by Obama who did an Executive Order. An Executive Order is NOT a bill or a law.
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MegK311 | Jun 20, 2012, 02:43 PM EDT
I am from N.I. I came here leagally and have always abided by the laws of the U.S. I have friends who waited 7 years to come here legally. Obama has chosen this election year to allow illegal aliens to stay here. He will do anything to get votes. This is not fair to people who go through the leagal channels to come to this country. The McAllisters should get in line like everyone else.
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Bythebay | Jun 20, 2012, 01:50 PM EDT
Another scenario is these people submit their documentation to Immigration and Naturalization, Obama doesn't get reelected, Romney rescinds the order and they're jailed or deported. There's a Federal prison in Alabama privately funded housing illegals awaiting their time in court.
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Bythebay | Jun 20, 2012, 12:47 PM EDT
the children of illegal emigrants to the US have to APPLY for this and provide provable documentation. This is NOT an across the board approval just because someone says they qualify. No one may get approved. The McAllisters should be ashamed of themselves.
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Bythebay | Jun 20, 2012, 12:45 PM EDT
50 million people are awaiting permission to LEGALLY emigrate to the US worldwide. The US gets 1 million LEGAL immigrants per year. These people should get no special treatment at all, they went there illegally and knew full well they did. Illegal aliens in the US should be deported.
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