Norway killer Anders Breivil linked to the Irish Defence League
Rabidly anti Islam, pro Israel group denies that he was a racist
Published Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:29 AM
Updated Monday, July 25, 2011, 9:30 AM
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seanomelbourne | Jul 28, 2011, 12:38 AM EDT
There are muslim members of the masonic lodge
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GAPetrie | Jul 27, 2011, 07:05 AM EDT
Despising heretics, rending the apostate, martyring for Islamic causes, aren't "radical". They're fundamentalist, but so is peaceably tending to your own life and minding your own business, giving to the needy and teaching through education instead of violence. In terms of community goals, there isn't that much different in Islam and Christianity, Judaism, or Buddhism. Notice I didn't mention some other religions or fraternal Orders because in nine years of homelessness those are the only religions I've come across who are actively giving food or clothing to the homeless. So, what sets apart the actions of some (mostly now dead) Muslims, actions that currently have the world in a furor, isn't "radical", it's extremist. Breivik, psychotic or not, was also an extremist. He wasn't a "radical", either: he situated his actions firmly in the center of his fundamental beliefs. And, in his mind, it takes extreme action to meet extreme action. And, considering his intent was to scare and shock the communities and governments of all Europe into behaving as he wishes, I would say that makes him a terrorist according to our modern definition. Despite all of this, I don't see how you can link Breivik back to the "Irish Defense League" when the link actually goes in the other direction. The headline should've read, "Irish Defense League linked to same political movement as several of Noway shooter Breivik's affiliations". Not only would that be more correct and therefore more informative, but it would spare a lot of Irish people the spike in blood pressure.
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cillowen | Jul 26, 2011, 04:52 PM EDT
Masonic believers view themselves pro israel as do the Northern Ireland Orange boys.
This masonic norwegian crazy has netted the world's problem out as to being a struggle between Zionism and Islam.
I'll bet such thoughts will be controlled, kept at bay or spun with fill-ins of ridicule.
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cillowen | Jul 26, 2011, 10:46 AM EDT
zionist and proud it seems is the nutcase and his lemming fellows. The ripple of treating others badly, flares here and there - this needs a full airing to enable us sheep be aware of our fate.
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eibhleann7 | Jul 26, 2011, 01:47 AM EDT
This man was in no way a Christian. Christ said to love they enemies, not ruthlessly slaughter innocent children. What he is, is sick, souless, and evil incarnate. The only group he belonged to was the group of voices in his depraved head. May they continue to torment him for the rest of his days.
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eibhleann7 | Jul 25, 2011, 09:30 PM EDT
Most of us can agree that Breivik is a right-wing, Islamophobic lunatic who planned this mass slaughter meticulously over several years. If indeed anything can be more appalling than this it is that this merciless killer may well be out on the street at age 53, having had 21 years to plan his next horror. For the record, according to 2009 stats Europe's population is about 5% Muslim, meaning that 95% is non-Muslim. Highest Muslim populations are in France 6%, Germany and Switzerland about 4.5% each, Greece and Britain about 3% each, Denmark 2%, Norway 1% and most others less than 1%. Note: Ireland is at one half of one percent (.05%). Point: Europe is hardly being invaded or over-run by Islam. That said, I do believe that radicalIslam (the fanatics who profoundly believe that the infidel must be converted and that Sharia law supersedes any national law) is a threat to Western Civilization and must be confronted and defeated.
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vincentruane | Jul 25, 2011, 08:33 PM EDT
It is a cowardly act for an armed person to shoot dead unarmed persons and killing an unborn child is also a cowardly act.
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badolan | Jul 25, 2011, 07:38 PM EDT
No matter what his political leanings are, what he did was sick and wrong. Political views don't justify his acts.
Condolences to the friends and families of those lost.
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averagejoewa | Jul 25, 2011, 07:22 PM EDT
What is so bad about being anti-Islamic? Islam is a primitive and barbaric religion whose members consider it honorable to murder their own daughters.
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seanomelbourne | Jul 25, 2011, 06:50 PM EDT
Brievik is a right wing, anti muslim, christian fundamentalist,a card carrying member of Norways opposition conservative party. He most probably had links with other groups.It now transpires that he met members of the BNP in london. He is a good norwegian anti liberal teahadist.
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joycean | Jul 25, 2011, 05:56 PM EDT
I think it is important to distinquish between groups of individuals who are engaged in guerrilla warfare and make up for numerical deficiency by using terror tactics, and individuals whose warped minds lead them to believe they are acting toward a political goal. People like Timothy McVeigh, the Unibomber fit in the latter group. While Al Quaida exemplifies the former.Guerrilla warfare does work. Think about how the train station bombing in Madrid convinced the Spanish to back away from the war in Iraq. But, at least from what we know so far, this man seems to be a loner.
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nicgearailt | Jul 25, 2011, 01:57 PM EDT
this individual has been charged with "acts of terrorism ".not surprising...
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Rebelforce | Jul 25, 2011, 12:24 PM EDT
Leave it to Irish Central to find some way to link this hideous Norwegian criminal to the Irish.
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Nicomax | Jul 25, 2011, 12:24 PM EDT
Terrorism is a strategy, not a goal. It can be employed but all sorts of groups or even an individual to frighten people into submission and hopefully support their goal. It seldom works, unless those impacted by the terror go too far in the opposite direction by sacrificing their own liberties which then can actually help the terrorists achieve their goals.
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