New information on Vice President Joe Biden’s Irish roots uncovered
Trip to explore Louth and Mayo roots on the cards for the VP say aides
Published Thursday, June 28, 2012, 7:20 AM
Updated Thursday, June 28, 2012, 10:23 AM
27 comments
Return to article
Next
Page 1 of 2 pages
EphraimKibbey | Jun 30, 2012, 12:32 AM EDT
@Bythebay - "James" Finnegan was born circa 1845, the "Patrick" goes with the Blewitt b. circa 1834. My Great-Grandfather was born in Ireland in 1842 and his mother brought him and his brothers to the US in 1850 because the Great Hunger had ruined them. I would assume that they, like the Finnegans and the Roches stuck it out as long as they could and finally scraped together the money to buy their passage. I doubt that "to avoid the Great Hunger" requires them to have left before it started.
Report abuse
peterson | Jun 29, 2012, 06:53 PM EDT
pipermac52 you got that right !!
Report abuse
Bythebay | Jun 29, 2012, 11:48 AM EDT
Biden claims the Finnegan family fled Ireland to avoid the Famine. ????? Patrick Finnegan was born supposedly in ca 1845, Catherine Roche born ca 1850, she was born at the end of the Famine, he was born during the Famine. How did they emigrate to the US as a 5 year old and newborn? And anyone reporting this isn't the brightest bulb in the box either. The Famine was 1845-50.
Report abuse
Bythebay | Jun 29, 2012, 11:44 AM EDT
EphraimKibbey, you've also made an unsupportable assumption regarding noting country of birth/nationality. Information in the US census records isn't even guaranteed to be provided by the people listed or family members. If people weren't available when the census enumerator called for example a neighbor could have been asked. So the persecution complex is unfounded.
Report abuse
Bythebay | Jun 29, 2012, 11:20 AM EDT
EphraimKibbey, US census records, now available from 1790 to 1940, are only a guide to ancestral research there. Some information may be right, some wrong. That's why other detail research needs to be completed in civil and church records in the US to find exactly where in Ireland the emigrant originated. And there are 64,000 towns and townlands where they could have been born which you in the US also seem ignorant of.
Report abuse
Bythebay | Jun 29, 2012, 11:14 AM EDT
pilib04, if you think Irish birth, baptismal and marriage records are very easy to obtain if you've actually done proper, I repeat proper, research in the US for your emigrant ancestors. Clearly you're too thick to have done that. As far as finding records in Ireland they are very easy to find and get copies of. That's also true of Northern Ireland UK. You must be illiterate if you haven't been able to.
Report abuse
Bythebay | Jun 29, 2012, 11:04 AM EDT
erieshark, it's not a question of Catholic haters it's a question of constantly using Catholicism as some sort of honor when it isn't. Biden wrongly attempted to coerce the US Government by bringing the US Catholic Bishops into the White House in full violation of the separation of Church and State.
Report abuse
ciaradexy | Jun 29, 2012, 06:57 AM EDT
Pilib, youre talking crap. If YOU were irish or even lived in ireland then you'd know exactly where to get your birth cert from. They can be obtained from many places. The offices on Lombard St in Dublin being the most popular place and from the registration offices in castlebar in Mayo. Stop insulting Irish people with your stupidity.
The only documents that we destroyed in fire were those kept in the 4 courts during the Civil war. get your info right or shut up.
Report abuse
irishpjk | Jun 28, 2012, 07:14 PM EDT
wtf
Report abuse
PiperMac52 | Jun 28, 2012, 05:36 PM EDT
Biden doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of getting elected president. He has foot in mouth disease for one. As far as being Irish Catholic that would apply only in the cultural sense as he has many positions that are the antitheses of catholic teachings/doctrine, just as many of his Democratic cohorts.
Report abuse
borefield | Jun 28, 2012, 03:53 PM EDT
Erieshark! So that's what happened to Obama, Joe's wise counsel! Are you for real.
Report abuse
EphraimKibbey | Jun 28, 2012, 03:27 PM EDT
Correction - She herself would not have been listed in any of these just her country of origin as mentioned by her kids. If they knew her birth place to be Ireland in 1900 then they were concealing the fact later in life.
Report abuse
EphraimKibbey | Jun 28, 2012, 03:14 PM EDT
The U. S. Census asks children to give the State (or Country, if not the US) of birth for both of their parents. The fact that she was listed as born in New York in the 1900 U. S. Census but was listed as born in Ireland in the 1880 U. S. Census and earlier does not mean that she, personally, was listed at all in 1900 just that her children said that N. Y. was where their mother was born. Obviously she would have known best where she was born so the 1880 Ireland birth place is correct. The New York mistake may have been lack of knowledge on the children’s part or may have shown that they were trying to separate themselves from their Irish heritage. Being Irish or of Irish descent has not always been as popular as it is now. Look at the way Hispanics are treated here now and you will see just how the Irish were treated here a few generations back. By the way, the 1890 U. S. Census was almost totally destroyed by fire so it can’t be checked.
Report abuse
connemaragirl | Jun 28, 2012, 02:28 PM EDT
There is no one who can compete with George Bush when it comes to gaffes,a genius you say, go away Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report abuse
Next
Page 1 of 2 pages
- Horse disemboweled and sliced open in horrific.
- Senator Schumer says Irish deserve a separate...
- Irish footballer under investigation after...
- Irish politician refuses to back down on...
- Bill O'Reilly claims the Obama administration...
- Delphi Lodge takes responsibility for turning...
- Gerry Adams accuses British government of...
- Chilling testimony before congressional hearing
- Sex addiction on the rise says Dublin Clinic...
- Enda Kenny rejects Dublin Archbishop's claims...

27 Comments


Report abuse