New IRA formed by dissident Republican groups according to statement
Hardliners threaten to step up terror campaign in Northern Ireland
Published Friday, July 27, 2012, 7:23 AM
Updated Friday, July 27, 2012, 10:21 AM
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TayandCake | Aug 01, 2012, 11:39 AM EDT
I always thought the parades, republican or loyalist where tacky and sheer cringe, but hey that's me.
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IrelandNorth | Aug 01, 2012, 09:04 AM EDT
A 6 county neo-provincial NI statlet hasn't worked in the past. A 26 county proto-republic ROI isn't working now. A 32 county nation within a Commonwealth of Nations might(?) work in the future. To any historically literate citizen old enough to be a survivor of revisionist history, living in a divided Ireland is like trying to operate with an amputated limb. NI is exhibiting shifting demographics towards an Irish nationalist majority over the next 10 years who would vote for a departioned Ireland. The ROI is increasingly heterogenous, secular and Europeanised. Britain is drifting inexorable towards Scottish and Welsh nationalism and English republicanism. In 10 years time, there may be no kingdom to be united with. The economy-of-scale of the ROI is small enough to be insignificant. What would an independent NI's be, in an era of global lliances and banking. Food for thought - guys?
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seamus60 | Aug 01, 2012, 07:53 AM EDT
ciaradexy. With respect any Gov that can just dish out statements on decisions made without the consent of the house is not democracy.
Once again we still have Gerrymandering, religious dicrimination and Internment. Two of which you are presently not suffering from. Hardly a position of authority on the subject.
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ciaradexy | Jul 31, 2012, 05:27 PM EDT
The government has plenty of opposition Seamus! The Brits dont want NI and neither does the ROI. Leave it on its own as an independent state with some funding from us, the British and Europe. End of story!
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seamus60 | Jul 31, 2012, 03:34 PM EDT
ciaradexy. Much the same as we had when civil rights marchers took to the streets. A gov without oppossition will never be democracy.
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ciaradexy | Jul 31, 2012, 03:13 PM EDT
IRA, we have democracy now. You are neither wanted nor needed by the majority. Go away.
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seamus60 | Jul 31, 2012, 03:08 PM EDT
Schon. Since you seem so keyed into statistics I had expected a prompt reply to my last question. Not much sense you contributing your clearly bigotted views towards any particular religion if you`re not prepared to back it up when challenged. You have continually blasted republicans as brainwashed by the Catholic church and the Irish state. Both of whom the IRA locked horns with on many occassions during the last 40 years. Remember the broadcasting bann or the refusal of funeral mass being afforded to fallen volunteers because of flag draped coffins. Don`t ever remember the unionjack being removed from coffins entering non Catholic churchs.
As for what went on with Catholic priests and regardless of how far back it went. I can`t imagine Kincorra being the only time that occurred from another perspective.
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seamus60 | Jul 31, 2012, 02:39 PM EDT
Mary you will find those most opposed to disclosure of the truth from our past are the ones with most to hide.Haven`t exactly heard any of the political leaders roaring and squealing for the required truth commission. I as a former combatant would be more than happy to take part with honesty and openess to the fore. Its those who pulled the strings from the comfort of back room meetings from all sides that fear the truth. Can`t be exposing all the scullduggery that went on behind the peoples backs. The fall out wouldn`t fit in with the long term plan.
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maryosullivan | Jul 31, 2012, 11:53 AM EDT
" raking up the past" and " seeking to stir it up" ????
Try those mealy mouthed comments on the next Jew you hear commenting on the Holocaust , if you have the guts
Germany and Austria will lock you up if you dare downplay the number of deaths, and Irish people are sneered at because they remember their own people
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YoungPike | Jul 31, 2012, 06:29 AM EDT
Schon: Fortunatley, the Black & Decker belongs to the bad old days and the boys now embrace DeWalt and Makita!
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seamus60 | Jul 30, 2012, 07:12 PM EDT
Schon. Have you got an exact figure for the number of Orange parades that take place every year dredging up the past ?
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seamus60 | Jul 30, 2012, 07:04 PM EDT
Schon. Don`t remember republicans using the black and deckers. The people who were offended beside the chapel were residents of Carrick hill, some watching and listening from their own front doors. How many thousand Orange men and their supporters travelled from all over the North and futher afield to offend ? The Orange men march every year in Rossnaullagh Co. Donegal without protest from anyone because they are doing it out of the way and not insulting anyone. Funny how they do this when they have been persecuted for just being Protestant. Feel free to belittle my church and the way its being run, I`ve done it myself and I`d agree about the priests. Please don`t insult my faith though as I don`t yours that has men of the collar steeped in the Orange and happily offend fellow christians on their own doorsteps. I won`t bother getting into who wearing a collar thought he was the grand old duke of York, never mind forgiving anyone.
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seamus60 | Jul 30, 2012, 06:47 PM EDT
Limavady exile. I think Martin and Gerry are worried because those republicans they had depended on to keep things in check have now jumped ship along with their expierance.
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seamus60 | Jul 30, 2012, 06:44 PM EDT
Philo. Th RA was once a fringe group who needed no mandate and were slagged off by the SDLP and others just as SF are doing now. These groups would not be availing of more oxegyn only for the empty promises by those now in power. Who lets face it have come up with a real genius idea to keep young people from getting involved. Its called Workfare, where young people will work for free. Nothing like making them feel worthy contributers to society
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