My mother died of 'slave related injuries' says Magdalene Laundries daughter
Samantha Long tweets her mum’s life of cruelty and abuse in laundry
Published Monday, February 4, 2013, 7:34 AM
Updated Monday, February 4, 2013, 9:35 AM
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seanomelb | Feb 14, 2013, 05:46 PM EST
I never mentioned the magdalene sisters in that post you presume to much, I said "Holy Nuns" It's a long and personal story Jacer.
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seanomelb | Feb 14, 2013, 05:46 PM EST
I never mentioned the magdalene sisters in that post you presume to much, I said "Holy Nuns"
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jacersagain | Feb 13, 2013, 09:44 PM EST
So why, Seano... did you post allegations that your sister died of Magdalene Laundry causes? I worked in a commercial laundry once, on clothes sent in for cleaning by people so wealthy enough back then not to have to do the cleaning of their own soiled clothes - and have suffered no ill-effects (so far, Thank God!).
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seanomelb | Feb 13, 2013, 05:59 PM EST
Jacer My sister died of natural causes and your contemptible article below is typical of your lack of empathy. My sister was not a "Magdelene girl" . Her husband and children are not asking for any compensation whatsoever. Best you quit this site and stopping making an arse of yourself. Your lack of humanity borders on sociopathy.
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seanomelb | Feb 13, 2013, 05:53 PM EST
Bed linen could have been cleaned at a number of laundry's in Ireland and they would have employed people to do so. Your acceptance of slave labour is no different to the German camps wher slave labour was used to produce cheap goods in Germany. I maintain my humanism jacer,whats you excuse for condoning the excesses of failed Catholic institutions who turned their back on the words of Christ 'Suffer all you children unto me" I do not think Jesus meant his words to mean children have to suffer do you?. BTW touche yourself
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seanomelb | Feb 13, 2013, 05:52 PM EST
Bed linen could have been cleaned at a number of laundry's in Ireland and they would have employed people to do so. Your acceptance of slave labour is no different to the German camps wher slave labour was used to produce cheap goods in Germany. I maintain my humanism jacer,whats you excuse for condoning the excesses of failed Catholic institutions who turned their back on the words of Christ 'Suffer all you children unto me" I do not think Jesus meant his words to mean children have to suffer do you?. BTW touche yourself
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jacersagain | Feb 12, 2013, 11:48 PM EST
(…more) So... Ok, Seano… you claim they were “Errant” nuns of Christian, Catholic-dedicated Ireland of the 1920's to 1990's Christian Catholicism during times when poverty ran a very big number of people of that time to petty-criminal activity, just as in the USA and Australia and elsewhere during those years?? Let's be real… how much non-existent “compos” are you, like many of the charitable nun-fed, Irish society “dunno where to put them next” thinking society of those days and Nun-protected Magdalene women, are really getting on the band-wagon for???? Most were put through child-labour for Hospital wards’ beds without payment or entitlements to Irish Old-Age entitlements (which I agree should be compensated to them, at rates prevailing during their working lives, less the costs of their keeping) but please know that their efforts clean-sheeted many a poor person’s hospital bed in hospitals run and staffed for free by non-compensation-demanding Orders of Nuns. Please, Seano, my Sword is waveed up to you now and please, like the atheistic fair gentleman you claim to be, please fairly "Touché".
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jacersagain | Feb 12, 2013, 11:42 PM EST
Seano - On the contrary, (pardon me Dublinese euro-speak pls; that’s English for the French ‘au contraire’; I dunno know the iggerant Ozzie equivalent phrase but I’m sure you do) … please allow me to re-annunciate that the Nuns of the Magdalene Convents exercised extra-ordinary care and endeavours with uncalled-for love and mercy for the girls of the Magdalene Laundries who were rejected by their families and by the Irish State for their whatever young years’ juvenile criminal wrongs were (otherwise no Magdalene nunnery wouldn’t have been asked by an Irish, English, Ozzie or American parent or the Irish state and comparable states to do so during those times). I, for one, note for sure, will stand up and will reject your “whoo-hoo, monies on the tables, lads and gals!” newly-declared claim (after all these years of yours on ICentral) to be a family-brother of a Magdalene young woman now probably dead, if she existed at all. Next you’ll be declaring for exoneration and monetary compensation from the UK’s Govt for the killing of so-called Irish Republicans and innocent citizens of Ireland during the Troubles that you might have run away from Ireland to Australia for, or claiming to be a brother of a man or woman shopkeeper or shopper, left without a right arm or leg, just because s/he was a loyalist and your friends’ bomb didn’t work well enough on some days. (More...)
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seanomelb | Feb 12, 2013, 08:43 PM EST
We will take you and treat you as slaves said the errant nuns. Jacers unbelieveable blindness in this affair reflects his lack of humanity. I have a sister (Deceased) who suffered at the hands of the "Holy nuns" How dare you preach your ignorant catholicism to me,hang your head in shame hypocrite.
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seanomelb | Feb 12, 2013, 08:43 PM EST
We will take you and treat you as slaves said the errant nuns. Jacers unbelieveable blindness in this affair reflects his lack of humanity. I have a sister (Deceased) who suffered at the hands of the "Holy nuns" How dare you preach your ignorant catholicism to me,hang your head in shame hypocrite.
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jacersagain | Feb 10, 2013, 09:58 PM EST
(…more) On the contrary, the ones whose laundering was carried out by the girls owe them a huge fortune. It’s time for Irish Hospitals, and their patients of the time and most importantly of all, for their drug producing, overly-profiteering drug suppliers to please pay out and make restitution with old-age pensions and payment for laundry hours that their unpaid, instamped lives were lived in. The Magdalene women should at least be recognised for the clean sheets and blankets that they washed, dried and ironed were for sick people in all of the hospitals of Ireland, which at that time, were run and administered by, well,… yes, you guessed it… the nuns of Ireland’s Christendom. As far as I know, not one single nun working behind closed doors in a Magdalene workhouse or an open hospital anywhere in Ireland has ever asked for monetary compensation from any tax-payer or any hospital patient or any drug producer for the work they did back then and still do. “Bring Back the Nuns”” was a call of a friend of mine. I would have to totally, totally agree with that… Next time, anyone who looks upon a nun walking down the street, you’d better look upon her with new eyes. She may, like Mary Magdalene was for the original Apostles, be your magnetic route to the Saviour of all of us.
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jacersagain | Feb 10, 2013, 09:50 PM EST
(…more) The Christian nuns who opened their own arms and their own silent prayer houses to those rejected by the rest of society in those days basically said “We’ll take you into our (prayer) house, we will feed you all and keep all of you who were abandoned by all outside of our prayer houses but, errrrm… in return you must work for your food and clothes, just like… errrrm, like we do”. I don’t see any problems with that thinking… After all, I do it daily… working to feed my own kids with what’s left after the Irish Govt directly, without my permission, takes over 40% of what I’m contracted by my Employer to earn for my endeavours, not to mention the 23% that it take out of what’s left for feeding my children... so if the nuns’ attitude is not true Christianity, like the Magdalene nuns were doing in their day for people rejected by the society living in those days, I don’t doubt that anyone can see the sense, back then, of it all being wrong. We Irish tax-payers don’t owe a single Magdalene woman a single cent of a euro, unless we were a patient in a hospital that provided clean sheets under and above bodies like those of my mother’s or my fathers’. (more…)
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jacersagain | Feb 10, 2013, 09:47 PM EST
And there's more...! One other thing bothers me barmy to write a bit more… Seano smartly posts that I have no Christianity in me regarding the young and old women of the Magdalene Laundries. May I less-smartly respond in kind…? The buildings where the Magdalene nuns of Ireland offered refuge to young teenage women who were discarded by their parents, or as vagrants or, as young criminals by the Irish state from 1922 onwards, were follows-on from the old workhouses that the British introduced into Ireland from their own country during the 19th century. The British-introduced workhouses were the last places of refuge for Ireland’s very poorest, the ones who could not feed themselves or their families. The morality of the times was “If you want to be fed and clothed, then you must work in this house”… (Present-day African, Indian, Brazilian and Nth Korean hunger times, anyone??). Charles Dickens immortalised all the British workhouses in his novel ‘Oliver Twist’ and by others in the movie ‘Oliver’, of men, women and children of both sexes like the kind but money-making Fagan, the kind temptress and the lone brave kid asking for more #Foooood… Glorious Foooood# in the British version of the story of British workhouses. It was persisted with in Ireland’s Christian Magdalene laundry workhouses because if you were bad enough in those times, there was only one other place to go or, at, worst, be sent to for food and clothing (More…) .
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jacersagain | Feb 10, 2013, 09:37 PM EST
One other thing bothers me barmy to write a bit more… Seano accuses med of having no Christianity in me regarding the young and old women of the Magdalene Laundries. May I less-smartly respond in kind…? The buildings where the Magdalene nuns of Ireland offered refuge to young teenage women who were discarded by their parents, or as vagrants or, as young criminals by the Irish state from 1922 onwards, were follows-on from the old workhouses that the British introduced into Ireland from their own country during the 19th century. The British-introduced workhouses were the last places of refuge for Ireland’s very poorest, the ones who could not feed themselves or their families. The morality of the times was “If you want to be fed and clothed, then you must work in this house”… (Present-day African, Indian, Brazilian and Nth Korean hunger times, anyone??). Charles Dickens immortalised all the British workhouses in his novel ‘Oliver Twist’ and by others in the movie ‘Oliver’, of men, women and children of both sexes like the kind but money-making Fagan, the kind temptress and the lone brave kid asking for more #Foooood… Glorious Foooood# in the British version of the story of British workhouses. It was persisted with in Ireland’s Christian Magdalene laundry workhouses because if you were bad enough in those times, there was only one other place to go or, at, worst, be sent to for food and clothing (More…) .
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