'Most Catholics want to stay in UK' says Northern Ireland's First Minister
No referendum needed, people are better off with Britain, claims Robinson
Published Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 8:14 AM
Updated Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 11:22 AM
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IrelandNorth | Nov 30, 2012, 08:33 AM EST
Given that 33% of [Roman?] Catholic's in NI expressed a desire for a united Ireland, (The Irish News/Northern Ireland Life and Times Survey, 2010). And given that 69% of ROI respondents favour paying higher taxes to fund a united Ireland, (The Irish Times/Ipsos/MRBI Survey, 2012). Despite these polls being two years apart, does this not reperesent a 100% plus FOR a united Ireland in these straw poll in the 10th year of countdown to 2022? Partition costs the British (mainly English) taxpayer STG£30bn p/a, (approx STG£15,000 pps NI). A united Ireland would be more cost effective, (not least with a civically irresponsible 31% of current ROI taxpayers forced to pay their share). Perhaps our G8 paypals will have some serious petty cash to invest in Ireland Inc., relieving the British Exchequer of some serious maundy money.
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ePHraimAg | Nov 30, 2012, 08:30 AM EST
Devolution does not mean opting out Of The U.K.. Listening to Robinson is stupid and same goes for McGuinness. Ulster is The U in the U.K... so without Ulster there is No U.K. Scotland has the correct idea.. go for Independence.. this can only lead to a reformed U.K. so that England will be secured from the makings of the likes Of the William Hagues who has made a total shambles Of assaying to take control of the Military. If England wants to sell out to the USA..; then let England do so but leave the Crown in Scotland.
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seanomelb | Nov 29, 2012, 06:25 PM EST
Gee! redbranch yuor a bundle of laughs ignoramus
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Smyrnian | Nov 29, 2012, 06:25 PM EST
Most Palestinians prefer the status quo and like they way things are. How do I know that? A member of the Israeli government told me! This is another stupid IC story.
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anglo-norman | Nov 29, 2012, 05:55 PM EST
The 26 Vatican controlled statelet is a borderline 3rd World country again so who in their right mind would want to be part of that.
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RedBranch | Nov 29, 2012, 03:25 PM EST
curtibia I could just as well say the benefits to the people in the Republic would be..? You can live by pride alone for about 60 days and thats proven
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seamus60 | Nov 29, 2012, 09:57 AM EST
So we have the head of a political party (whose aspiration is to remain part of something) giving the membership the annual dose of feel good factor via such a speech. Hardly anything groundbreaking or new. I remember believing the same bull about a UI by 2016. As for Scotland, my opinion has changed to Salmon and Co since watching a documentary called "you`ve been Trumped" on BBC during the week. Everything and everyone is for sale.
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ancavker | Nov 29, 2012, 08:52 AM EST
curitiba: There is no benefit to
the people of Britain. Red
Branch just wanys that British
dole money to keep coming!
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Curitiba | Nov 28, 2012, 04:09 PM EST
RedBranch: So the benefits for people in Britain of having NI as part of the Union are...?
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RedBranch | Nov 28, 2012, 03:58 PM EST
Rhodesian independence, that worked out well didn't it? Most of the people driving around the North in Range Rovers and suits are ministers in Stormont, many of them have guns too.
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ancavker | Nov 28, 2012, 02:30 PM EST
curitiba: Seems like a huge price to pay, to maintain some faded glory. I would like to think that the English people will wake up some day, and dump the place.(the north)
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ancavker | Nov 28, 2012, 02:28 PM EST
citizen: I know there is only
one referendum question. However
even if the vote is no, there
will be a substanial yes vote
that coupled with the no voters
who would have voted yes
for devo max if it was a second
question. This will give the SNP
a mandate for even greater
independence than waht they
already have. After that it will
only be a matter of time before
complete independence. Far from
making the union secure, it
will do the exact opposite. Once
you start down that road,that
(independence) will be the final
destination. As far as me caring
about the north? Well I do, as I
firmly believe partiton was a
historic injustice that ruined
all of Ireland. Not to mention I
hail from right on the border;
Cavan/Fermanagh.
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Curitiba | Nov 28, 2012, 02:08 PM EST
ancavker: norniron is a colonialist fantasy kept alive by mainland politicians who dream of the days they could ride around Rhodesia in a Land Rover and a safari suit and elephant gun, lording it over the natives until they were chucked out. They see the likes of Robinson and co lording it over the natives there and it gets the old juices flowing. Well worth the tens of billions for a ringside seat.Anglo-Saxon supremacy is a dirty word in multicultural Britain but norniron is the place they can live out their fantasies without any of that pesky political correctness or race relations laws.
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Gearoid4 | Nov 28, 2012, 01:46 PM EST
@Citizen,
The constitutional reverberations from a probable yes vote to the question of Independence for Scotland, will have a major impact on the political arrangements on these Islands. People can speculate about x number of years ahead concerning the fate of "northern ireland", but unionists complacently thinking that the so-called union is secure, will get a very alarming wake-up call. It is better that they seek genuine rapprochement with their nationalist neighbours, in anticipation of future arrangements in which they will be numerically a lot weaker than at present.
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