More Catholic bishops urge parishioners to vote for Mitt Romney
Move causing firestorm of controversy in both the press and the pews
Published Saturday, November 3, 2012, 8:31 AM
Updated Saturday, November 3, 2012, 11:09 AM
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mreinhar2001 | Nov 04, 2012, 10:49 PM EST
@JBCurtin, if being reminded to vote your conscience upsets you, then pray tell us how do you make decisions about how you vote if you do not vote your conscience? Do you vote by your wallet or by bribes?
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Seanmor | Nov 04, 2012, 10:30 PM EST
JBCurtin: I feel that as a God-fearing Christian is is not only my right but my duty to vote for a candidate whose moral values include the protection of the unborn and the right to religious freedom. Also, as a loyal U.S. citizen, a Legionnaire and a former marine it is my civic responsibility to oppose at the ballot box any politician who continues to add over a trillion dollars a year to the nation's deficit and supports full amnesty and easy citizenshil for 10 million illegal aliens, many of whom speak little or no English. God bless America and protect our religious freedom.
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Newrone | Nov 04, 2012, 08:11 PM EST
They just cannot hide looking like a pair of Mafiosi, can they?
Mind you, I suppose that evokes certain "traditional" American values.
Mind you, I suppose that evokes certain "traditional" American values.
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EphraimKibbey | Nov 04, 2012, 05:32 PM EST
Stiofain - I know, but it bothers my sense of JUSTICE and writing about it seems to help sooth my indignation. I was soooo disappointed that Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush were not turned over to the World Court for Human Rights Violations and War Crimes when Obama took office. My writings on that didn't change the outcome there either but at least it let me lower my blood pressure a bit. I think VENTING should be listed as an inalienable SUBright under free speech.
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Frosty38 | Nov 04, 2012, 04:18 PM EST
Here is a small thing from a newspaper
I keep telling people he was a horrible governor, but they don't want to hear it. I voted for Shannon O'Brien when Romney ran for governor, and I'm voting for President Obama (again) in November.
cgrbutterflyfish 2 weeks ago 33
I'm not sure how he became our governor. I was starting high school when he was running for governor and I remember something about him not living in MA at all. He was a resident of CA or UT. Anywho, he left a mess at the end of his term which means my mom was left without a job, so if I didn't have a full scholarship I wouldn't have gone to college. not to mention while I was mid way through highschool Romney promoted firing a bunch of teachers and merging schools, It was hell on earth!
there are many more
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Frosty38 | Nov 04, 2012, 04:13 PM EST
went to Mass this morning thinking i would have to hear it, but the priest that did the Mass is from Poland and can hardly speak english . He did not say anything, But todays paper in the Orlando WOW
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Stiofain | Nov 04, 2012, 03:06 PM EST
Smyrnian: You are wrong!
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eiriamach | Nov 04, 2012, 02:30 PM EST
A May 21 NY Times perspective "Contraception and Insurance Coverage (Religious Exemption Debate)" asks, "Is it about religious liberty or women’s health?" It's not about religious liberty. As the Times also reports (Oct. 4), Judge Carol Jackson of Federal District Court in St. Louis rejected the bishops' lawsuit against the HHS mandate: "Any imposition on religion is trivial and remote.... The health care coverage would offend the plaintiffs’ religious beliefs only if an employee 'makes an independent decision to use the plan' to obtain contraceptives; and that independent decision is no different from an employee using part of a salary to pay for contraceptives, which clearly would not harm the employer’s right to free exercise of religion. The 1993 [Religious Freedom Restoration Act] statute 'is not a means to force one’s religious practices upon others' and 'does not protect against the slight burden on religious exercise that arises when one’s money circuitously flows to support the conduct of other free-exercise-wielding individuals who hold religious beliefs that differ from one’s own,' Judge Jackson wrote." But it IS about women's health--and women's freedom of conscience vs suppression of women's consciences by churchmen. And lots of RC money!
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JBCurtin | Nov 04, 2012, 02:24 PM EST
Two weeks ago several people walked out of Mass as the priest began his homily on following your "Catholic conscience" when you vote, a not so subtle "you better vote for Romney". It was all I could do to stay in my pew and not follow the others. I am still furious. Oh, by the way, I live in Virginia. The TV ads and phone calls have been endless! Last week we were in South Carolina. No political homily given at the Catholic church there, and the political ads on TV were mostly for local elections. I assume SC is a Red-der than Red State. I also agree whole-heartedly with Stiofain.
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Stiofain | Nov 04, 2012, 01:29 PM EST
The chances of The Catholic Church losing it's tax exempt status is about as likely as the GOP will be prosecuted for voter fraud/suppression.
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TomDem55 | Nov 04, 2012, 01:22 PM EST
Smyrnian, it's the constitution, it's separation of church and state, here in these United States, Churches are exempt from taxation provided they steer clear of politics, you MAY recall from Irish history that various government (English) programs that might have KILLED a number of Irish Catholics, You may recall that the founding fathers eschewed religion in government due to the inability of christians to peacably live together (see Irish Catholics paying tithes to the Church of Ireland, see the Spanish Inquisition, see the massacare of Hugenots in France) SO to finish the history lesson, Churches don't do politics and they keep their tax exempt status
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eiriamach | Nov 04, 2012, 01:07 PM EST
At least 2 organizations have challenged RC tax exempt status. According to yesterday's Huffington Post, "Amid reports that some Roman Catholic clergy have been campaigning for Mitt Romney at the pulpit, the good-government non-profit Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington filed a complaint against the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops on Friday, challenging its tax-exempt status. The Conference of Catholic Bishops, as a 501(c)(3) group, is prohibited from campaigning for any candidate.... the bishops have been trying to persuade Catholics to vote for Romney by demanding that priests read pre-written letters at Sunday Masses, The Washington Post reports. The letters avoid naming Romney, arguing that President Barack Obama's administration has waged a war on religious liberty, that the Democrats' positions on contraception, abortion and gay marriage are causing the nation to 'lose its soul by little steps,' and that Catholic voters cannot support Democratic candidates without betraying God and Catholicism." Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics has also asked the IRS to investigate the bishops' politicking as a violation of tax rules.
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Frosty38 | Nov 04, 2012, 12:21 PM EST
I agree with a lot of the poster today.
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mreinhar2001 | Nov 04, 2012, 12:03 PM EST
redhand32 and everybody: THINK!! Use the brain you were given and the analytic abilities your teachers taught you in school. I, too agree that the tax exemption should be pulled if the article title were true, but do some research first. The article title says "Catholic bishops urge parishioners to vote for Romney," but nowhere in Antoinette Kelly's article does it actually make that claim. I looked up Jenky and Ricken's posts online and nowhere in those letters do they say anything remotely like "vote for Romney." The title to this article is an example of yellow journalism at its best.
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