Although most of the talk about Mitt Romney’s infamous Boca Raton video has focused on what he said about the 47% of Americans he claims won’t take responsibility for their lives, his comments on the Mideast also say a lot about the kind of president he would be.
Romney said straight out that the situation between Israel and the Palestinians, “is going to remain an unsolved problem.” His remarkable confession of defeat on the Mideast, an abject no mas even before getting himself in the ring, sounds eerily like what many said not too long ago about another seemingly insoluble problem: the centuries old warfare in Northern Ireland.
There was in Ireland and Britain an abundance of sage advice that the most that could be hoped for was to maintain the violence at a tolerable level and otherwise muddle through and hope for generational change.
But that most intractable of bloody conflicts—whether measured from the start of the Troubles in the 1960s, or the Battle of Boyne 300 years earlier (when the Catholic James II was defeated in his effort to retake the British throne), or the initial British invasions of Ireland over 800 years ago —did not, in fact, “remain an unsolved problem.”
After years of efforts to get and keep ceasefires and months of painstaking negotiations, permanent peace was made on Good Friday, 1998; it has flourished and withstood all manner of difficult tests. Next spring it will be 15 years and there is no meaningful constituency for going back to the old battles.
Not only did the eternal combatants move from a path of war to a path of politics, but they accomplished a rare sort of peace: not defeat, not humiliation, not ethnic cleansing, but instead the creation of a new civil society that accommodates both of its populations. Overall, it stands as one of the greatest political and diplomatic accomplishments in history.
In light of Romney’s remarks, it is interesting to recall that the United States played a major role in bringing about the peace in Northern Ireland. That history flies in the face of Romney’s defeatism and forces this question: should an American president ever, without even trying, give up on all possibility of the United States helping bring about a solution to the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians?
The question is especially compelling in light of the enormous, and quite possibly decisive, help that Bill Clinton was able to give to the peace process in Northern Ireland.
Although the story of that peace process, or just the American role, or even just the festival of incomprehension and mistaken assumptions underlying Romney’s analysis, are tales far too long for full telling in this space, a short version is worth recalling.
Clinton became involved in the issue of Northern Ireland during the 1992 presidential campaign at the behest of former congressman Bruce Morrison, his Yale Law School classmate, and many Irish American activists.
As he later said his daughter Chelsea concluded after researching her thesis on Northern Ireland, he was first drawn in by the politics—many of our nearly 50 million Irish Americans vote Irish but nobody much votes British—but as his involvement moved forward he became utterly captivated by the prospect of helping bring about an historically great accomplishment, a genuine advance for humankind.
In taking bold steps like granting a visa to Gerry Adams, leader of the Sinn Fein Party, always described as the “political arm of the outlawed Irish Republican Army,” Clinton stood down vehement opposition of the British government, the FBI and the State Department.
In the face of terrible violence he kept his eyes on the prize of winning the peace. (Clinton was, of course, unstinting in denouncing the violence, most notably during his triumphant visit to Belfast, when he declared to the “men of violence” that their day was over.)
To be sure, Clinton didn’t—and certainly couldn’t—win the peace by himself. There were indispensible contributions by American activists including Bruce Morrison and Irish American publisher Niall O’Dowd, Ted Kennedy and others in Congress, Gerry Adams and John Hume from Northern Ireland, Irish prime ministers including Albert Reynolds and Bertie Ahearn and then-newly-elected British Prime Minister Tony Blair.
When true all-party talks began at last, George Mitchell presided with a brilliant combination of patience and much needed decisiveness. And beyond that, more and more people of both communities in Northern Ireland spoke the truth that a life permeated by so much violence—during the thirty years of the Troubles, nearly 3500 were killed, a proportionate equivalent to nearly 500,000 in the United States—was not a life to pass on to their children and demanded something better.
Despite everything that came together for peace in Northern Ireland, success was never certain and Clinton knew that. But he took risks, remained patient and never gave up. A great peace was finally won and has endured. It stands as incontrovertible proof that one impossible ancient conflict could be solved.
In fairness to Mitt Romney, he is not altogether wrong when he says about the Mideast that, “These are problems, and they’re very hard to solve.” But an American president is a figure of some influence in the world and should study the problem thoughtfully and try to help—and be willing to run the risk of failure. The only thing we know for sure is that if a president gives up without trying, the prospect for a solution is pretty much zero.
Before throwing in the towel, Romney should ask himself where Northern Ireland would be today if Bill Clinton had said about that conflict, as Romney has about the Mideast, “There’s just no way.”
*Penn Rhodeen in a lawyer and writer based in New Haven and Brooklyn. He is currently writing a book about the adventures of former congressman Bruce Morrison in the Irish peace process, whom he describes as the great political engineer of the American involvement crucial to ending the war.
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.seanomelb | Sep 30, 2012, 07:41 PM EDT
What a silly question and it deserves no answer Briano. Maybe you should ask the thousands of palestinian hostages held in terrible circumstances inside Israel.
BrianO | Sep 30, 2012, 10:13 AM EDT
Where are the palestinians the safest inside or outside the borders of Israel, seano.
WoundedKnee | Sep 30, 2012, 10:13 AM EDT
Smyrnian: What nonsense. There wasn't a Palestinian among the 19 guys who carried out 9-11. Most (maybe all?) of them were from our Big Buddy--Saudi Arabia. Why are you against freedom? You're a bad American.
Smyrnian | Sep 30, 2012, 06:38 AM EDT
Let the Palestinian arm of the 'Religion of Peace' look to the Jordanians who occupy almost all of the land they once claimed. why are they not claiming it from the Jordanians now? I too will never forget 9-11 as I wad there and I saw what these butchers have in mind for all if us. Cop on, SeanO.
seanomelb | Sep 29, 2012, 07:15 PM EDT
This is not a tit for tat conversation stick to the point and just admit you condone the murder of Palestinian children and the thousands of men,women and children held hostage by the terrorist Israeli state and in most cases have not seen their families for years.
BrianO | Sep 29, 2012, 11:49 AM EDT
So EK are the Israelis a terrorist state as stated by seano.
BrianO | Sep 29, 2012, 11:48 AM EDT
I'll pay for the war against the 911 terrorists, that day will not be forgotten in this household. Seano how are the people in Bali doing after they were slaughtered by the Religion of peace in the Bali nightclub bombing.
Seanmor | Sep 29, 2012, 11:23 AM EDT
If Romney spoke of the "centuries old conflict in Northern Ireland", he his statement was very misleading. The artificial political entity known as "Northern Ireland" was created in 1920, which is only 92 years ago. Romney probably knows that during the Revolutionary War, about one third of the American population were Loyalists who sided with the British. Back to Ireland and its northern region: Yes, Democrat President Clinton played a key role in the peace proces, and so did Republican Congressman Peter King.
seanomelb | Sep 29, 2012, 05:55 AM EDT
And don't forget the unfunded wars Briano
BrianO | Sep 28, 2012, 08:21 PM EDT
Still waiting for an obama piece to be written, he does so many things correctly you would think this pro obama outlet would be writing article after article about his great accomplishments. So glad the days of george Bush and $1.85 gas prices are over, we can rely on alternative fuels like solindra and ethanol.
BrianO | Sep 28, 2012, 08:18 PM EDT
So are you all in agreement with seano, Israel is a terrorist state? Ephraim how many pieces of silver are you being paid by the DNC.
seanomelb | Sep 28, 2012, 08:05 PM EDT
Shuvonn it's difficult to express the truth to the Zionists drones below as they are aware of the terrorist Israeli state and they try to justify Israeli oppression
shuvonn | Sep 28, 2012, 10:58 AM EDT
Johnyb One can hardly make the claim to be objective when one has to tell blatant lies to make a point. Palestinians have recognized israel, Arafat did so in a letter to Rabin in 1993. israel as usual moved the goal posts and now demand recognition as a Jewish state. Palestinians not recognizing Israel as a Jewish state, is most certainly not the same as denying the right of self-determination of Israeli Jews, or jews world wide. The exercise of self-determination of any people is basically embodied by their right to govern as a national group and Self-determination can be exercised without exclusion or discrimination as in the case of major discrimination against Palestinians living in israel where they represent 20% of the population, they have less than 10% representation in the Knesset. "No major scholarships have ever been awarded to an Arab; there are no dorms for Arabs and no college-related jobs or financial aid programs. They justify this legal discrimination by the fact that we do not serve in the army. There are numerous blatant and official methods used to keep Palestinian Arabs out of the universities." Yet what of the israeli jews who do not serve in the idf or work but study the torah all of their lives? THEY get scholarships. Why have other countries including in cases of multinational or multi-linguistic groups such as in Canada, Belgium, Switzerland or South Africa managed to be inclusive yet israel still discriminates. There are different ways that israel have used to annihilate Palestinians and denial of their existence is where they have started. So NO, there was NO objectivity in your post....
EphraimKibbey | Sep 28, 2012, 12:38 AM EDT
Thanks Sean, but I can afford the peanuts, how about a case of Jameson if you're in a charitable mood? Scrivner, isn't it interesting that the number of jobs that Romney says he will create during his first term is EXACTLY the same number that independent economists predict will be created by then if we just continue with the current policies that you say are not working. Just in - Obama has now created more jobs than have been lost during his first term due to the CHENEY/BUSH CRASH. Your dog just does not hunt and we are all getting tired of hearing him howl! Imagine how our economy would be humming if the republicans would pass a few of Obama's jobs bills instead of taking the Fall off. Talk about freeloaders taking government handouts. This House has been out of session more days than any one previously and has passed less legislation than even Truman's "DO NOTHING CONGRESS." I think they should have their salaries docked.
seanomelb | Sep 27, 2012, 07:30 PM EDT
I'll send you some peanuts Ephraim to throw from the gallery.LOL
Scrivner | Sep 27, 2012, 06:02 PM EDT
OK, let's examine that 47% a little more. I believe that a lot of those non-income tax payers are workers who would really like a job that they are qualified for and would require them to pay income tax, but Obama's policies have insured that such jobs have not/will not be created. Oh, yes, it was the Bush tax cuts that rellieved a lot of the low income folk from the tax levies.
EphraimKibbey | Sep 27, 2012, 01:46 AM EDT
I've got my popcorn and my Jameson all ready for the first debate on Wednesday next week. It should be a hoot!
EphraimKibbey | Sep 27, 2012, 01:27 AM EDT
Tom Mo, don't you know what you wrote? You said that all those who were not your "legitimate retirees" were "permanent welfare recipients who detest the word "work."" Since the 47% who do not pay income tax includes all of our soldiers in the field, many veterans living on their benefits and those working hard and paying payroll taxes but not making a big enough salary to pay income tax at W's minimum amount you included them in your thoughtless condemnation. PLEASE be more careful in the future as you are further alienating Mr Romney's few remaining followers.
seanomelb | Sep 27, 2012, 12:20 AM EDT
the third post below is no mine I wish I knew who thje turd was
Thebhoys01 | Sep 26, 2012, 08:17 PM EDT
@IrelandNorth, you use a lot of big words and phrases in your summing up of how Ireland has arrived at its present state. Why didn't you simply use simple simplistic words and phrases which would have been more suitable to your very simplistic summary.
seanomelb | Sep 26, 2012, 07:28 PM EDT
If the Palestinians are not properly armed they will be oppressed even more. What a ridiculous statement from hooligan. Just a mo Tom take off those George Bush blinkers!!
seanomelb | Sep 26, 2012, 10:06 AM EDT
No need to worry about Israel, obama's foreign policy and appeasement strategy will allow Iran to fulfill their threat and drive them into the sea, so you can all relax problem fixed.
IrelandNorth | Sep 26, 2012, 07:52 AM EDT
PS The Island of Ireland was granted to the Anglo-Norman King Henry II of England by Pope Adrian II (another Englishman!) by papal bull - Laudibiliter. The Anglo-Norman conquest of Ireland was aided and abetted by Diarmuid Mac Murchadha/Dermot Mc Murrough, (King of Leinster/eastern Ireland and the foreigners). The Act of Union, 1800/'01 which annexed the Island of Ireland into a United Kingdom with the island of Great Britian was a constitutional sleight-of-hand. Home Rule for the Island of Ireland was prevaricated, procrastinated and obfuscated for almost a century in the British Parliament. The neo-provincial statlet of Northern Ireland was/is a byproduct of a la carté loyalty, sedition and subversion by Ulster (sic) unionists, a precedent for reactionary republican physical force/political violence on the Island of Ireland.
IrelandNorth | Sep 26, 2012, 07:46 AM EDT
Some problems were specifically designed to be irresolvable. The 1948 State of Israel in Palestine was/is an Anglo-American constitutional checkmate to contain the mass hysteria of Arab theocracy, as also to protect more material interests. Candidate Romney's macroeconomic theology predicates that he see things in 53:47 ratios, an election result his aids may be trying to manufacture. As a conspicuous Anglophile, how sympathetic can he be to a united Ireland? Lamenting a perceived lack of appreciation of White Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP) culture in the American body politic, was that as close as they could get within the strait-jacket of political correctness to casting aspersions on the demerits of multiculturalism. As a certified Jerusalem Pilgrim (Apr 09) who experienced Palesrael/Israstine very positively, I feel any city or state which peaceably moderates the sacred sites of the worlds 3 monotheistic religions can't be all bad. The 3rd most significant site in Islam after Mecca and Medina is the Dome of the Rock Mosque in Jerusalem, adjacent to the Western Wall of the Jewish Second Temple wrecked by Roman Legions in AD 70. Christendom's Church of the Holy Sepulchre (considered site of Christ's crucfiction) stands nearby. Would "... the city that murders its prophets" be administered as tolerantly under the supervision of a Grand Vizier.
hooligan6a | Sep 26, 2012, 05:59 AM EDT
If the Palestinians would lay down their arms today there would be peace today. If the Israelis would lay down their arms today they would be slaughtered
Tom Mo | Sep 26, 2012, 01:49 AM EDT
EphraimKibbey. Read what I wrote "many of the 47% are legitimate retirees and he will get their votes." I am one of them, So shag off you cowdung artist.
EphraimKibbey | Sep 26, 2012, 12:46 AM EDT
Tom Mo, you just called all of our soldiers in the field, many veterans living on their benefits and those working hard and paying payroll taxes but not making a big enough salary to pay income tax at W's minimum amount "permanent welfare recipients who detest the word "work."" No wonder our active military and most of our labor force favor Obama. As Romney should have, so should you, check out the actually make up of the 47% who do not pay income tax before you disparage their names. Incidentally Romney pays Capital Gains tax not REAL Income Tax either. It is high time he got a REAL job where he had to sweat a bit but I have no intention of offering him the one he is asking for.
EphraimKibbey | Sep 26, 2012, 12:29 AM EDT
Romney's next statement on the tape is even more telling. He said that he got a call from a previous secretary of state (Colin Powell?) who told him that he thought he saw a path to peace in the middle east. Romney said that he did not DELVE into what that path might be. Maybe Secretary/General Powell will share it with President Obama since Mitt could care less. So if Mitt doesn't care about the 47% and doesn't care about Armageddon, he seems a bit narrow minded. Oh Yea, he's a capitalist and "What's good for General Bullmoose is good for the USA." Where is Al Capp's insight into the ultimate capitalist when it is really needed.
Tom Mo | Sep 26, 2012, 12:11 AM EDT
Romney is right on the Palistinian/Israel conflict and also on the 47%. Many of the 47% are legitimate retirees and he will get their votes if they read anything other than Irish Central, the rest are permanent welfare recipients who detest the word "work."
seanomelb | Sep 25, 2012, 11:48 PM EDT
I wonder if Mitt will lead the troops to battle or will he force the 47% to do his fighting for him. One thing is sure he or his sons will be safe in some Mormon temple he built whilst the middle class and the poor die in battle, as they did for the terrorists Bush,Rumsfeld,Cheney and Rove.
hollabackgurl | Sep 25, 2012, 10:58 PM EDT
Sheldon Adelson and the neo-con hawks who brought you the Iraq War ("it'll be a cake-walk") ("they will welcome us like liberators") will be behind Romney's Iran war too. With even more spectacular results, I bet.
seanomelb | Sep 25, 2012, 06:51 PM EDT
Romney the "quitter" if the problem is to hard don't solve it and then there's his zionist anti palestinian side. He condemns the terrorist state of Iran and condones the terrorist state of Israel.
cillowen | Sep 25, 2012, 04:44 PM EDT
romney says essentially die mfing palestianians
micky74007 | Sep 25, 2012, 04:28 PM EDT
Give a liberal the truth and he pisses all over himself.
hybernia | Sep 25, 2012, 01:26 PM EDT
Romney has named the following people to his board of advisers: Dov Zakheim – (Israeli Dual Citizen) Robert Kagan – (Israeli Dual Citizen) Michael Chertoff – (Israeli Dual Citizen) Eliot Cohen – (Israeli Dual Citizen) Eric Edelman – (Israeli Dual Citizen) John Lehman – (Israeli Dual Citizen) Evan Feigenbaum – (Israeli Dual Citizen) Aaron Friedberg – (Israeli Dual Citizen) Kent Lucken – (Israeli Dual Citizen) Kristen Silverberg – (Israeli Dual Ctizen) Not a goy in sight! America is now a Jewish ranch. We won’t ask who the cattle are. I notice that Dov Zakheim, Dual Citizen, is right at the top of that list. This is the guy who “lost” THREE TRILLION DOLLARS while “working” for the Pentagon
Ray1Gordon | Sep 25, 2012, 01:14 PM EDT
Romney says what the warmongering Netanyahu and Jewish billionaire Sheldon Adelson tell him to say. Romney would allow Israel to drag the U.S. into a disastrous war in Iran, the same way that they manipulated an ill-informed Bush into attacking Iraq.No more wars for Israel.
ancavker | Sep 25, 2012, 01:02 PM EDT
At least Romney is honest. It is unsolveable. 60 years on ahs proved that. neither side will compromise.
Nicomax | Sep 25, 2012, 12:53 PM EDT
It's possible both sides really do not want a solution to this mess, since it would then move them off the stage of world concern- not unlike how the peace settlement in Northern Ireland has quelled world interest in that small community. In Israel's case recognizing the Palestinians as a separate and equal state would diminish them, which would be particularly galling when you view yourselves as the "Chosen People".
pilib04 | Sep 25, 2012, 12:47 PM EDT
JohnnyB, every President except George W. Bush (43). Ta failte romhat.
WoundedKnee | Sep 25, 2012, 12:44 PM EDT
Romney's Middle East policy is to call Tel Aviv and ask the Israelis what he should think.
WoundedKnee | Sep 25, 2012, 12:43 PM EDT
Romney's Middle East policy is to
Wolftone | Sep 25, 2012, 12:41 PM EDT
What on God's Green Earth and Eire in particular does all this anti-Romney and anti-Republican have to do with Ireland? This site is clearly a political partisan as it has posted one anti-Republican and anti-Romney post after another, and can't seem to find similar adversarial posting on this site about Obama or Democrats. Quite frankly this partisan nonsense diminishes the virtue and value of IrishCentral. I certainly want to track political reports from Ireland in a non-partisan way here as the site is already doing. These IrishCentral "Contributing Writer" partisan hack attacks concerning US domestic politics, especially on non-Ireland issues has no place here. What would be appropriate is any US candidate's position on US relations on Ireland. Mr. Rhodeen's post that tries to make a ridiculous inference to Ireland via the perpetual Palestinian/Israeli conflict is sophomoric and absurd. It doesn't reflect the position of either candidate toward Ireland. Please stop using IrishCentral for shameless and pathetic partisan attacks! It's beneath the dignity and virtue of this site.
pilib04 | Sep 25, 2012, 12:41 PM EDT
Not possible or isn't it the policy of the Republican Party since Bush 43 to not be interested in solving. Certainly if you can bring peace to Northern Ireland you can bring peace to the Middle East. Of course, if those who are supporting Robme with millions of dollars don't want peace, then I can see where Robme might not think it necessary. How much to Robme collect while in Israel. Sheldon Adelson is probably Robme's major adviser on "Peace" in the middle east.
slainte39 | Sep 25, 2012, 10:49 AM EDT
If it's about trashing Romney...that's great...he needs trashing.
johhnyb | Sep 25, 2012, 09:37 AM EDT
The previous poster is missing the point I'm afraid. This isn't about Israel and the Palestinians. It's about trashing Romney. Remember it's Irish Central we're reading.
johhnyb | Sep 25, 2012, 09:28 AM EDT
Ok, now let's be objective here. Every president dating back to Eisenhower has tried to solve the Israeli/Palestinian problem without success. Fact: You can not have peace when one side refuses to recognize the existence of the other side and in fact has as it's objective the annihilation of the other.