Martin McGuinness may greet the Queen in Gaelic, claim insiders
McGuinness meeting the Queen yet to be confirmed
Published Saturday, June 23, 2012, 8:15 AM
Updated Saturday, June 23, 2012, 8:15 AM
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seanomelb | Jun 27, 2012, 09:08 PM EDT
love your 99% Ciara if you don't know the % don't make it up. I never passed any comment on the "visit" other than to say McGuinness would greet her in Gaelic and I was right and you bagged the idea of an Irish greeting and I'm out of tune. As for Betsy been queen of Australia I can assure you it was nothing to do with me I can also assure you that millions of Australia don't want her.You should stick to your west Brit "comfort zone" I have more knowledge of the "felling on the ground" than you think.Tell me is the screen on your computer pink when you don your rose tinted glasses?? Maybe we'll call it "the world according to Ciara" insular and naieve.
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ciaradexy | Jun 27, 2012, 11:28 AM EDT
Seano, this meeting got a fantastic response here today. Maybe you should check out Irish sites like the journal and see how people are reacting. 99% of the people on there must be west Brits according to you living all the way over there in the Commonwealth with Queenie as your head of state.
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ciaradexy | Jun 27, 2012, 11:25 AM EDT
Better travelled? Youre an old man Seano so Id hope so! You certainly have no idea what the felling on the ground is in Ireland which is the country youre commentng on constantly.
Ankavker, why do you say Im being disagreeable? Theres nothing in my post thats arguing for arguments sake. I seem to be one of the few Irish on this site. You know the ones who live here and know whats going on in the country rather than those who get their 'news' via this site. If I got all my news about the US from Fox or CNN Id get a very skewed version of the news just like Americans do of Ireland from looking at this site.
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Beedee | Jun 27, 2012, 09:49 AM EDT
WoundedKnee. I think you are smart enough to know what I meant. Think 'Dialect', then come back and tell me I am wrong
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seanomelb | Jun 26, 2012, 08:36 PM EDT
Your ignorance is underwhelming Ciara I do not see the world through your west Brit rose tinted glasses and I bet I'm better traveled than you and in tune with current affairs. As for the idiot Dean Jackson the IRA has existed since 1918 and this stupid "modern IRA" clause is fanciful and childish.
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barneyjo | Jun 26, 2012, 05:09 PM EDT
@DeanJackson - my apologies if my grasp of the history of my own country is not what I thought it was. I foolishly thought that the Provisional IRA was born out of a split (almost north/south) when the Official IRA opted to go the route of diplomacy. I foolishly thought that Sinn Fein had been active at periods throughout the history of the Irish State. But there you go you never know when you are going to learn something new about the history of your own country. Most grateful I'm sure :)
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ancavker | Jun 26, 2012, 04:30 PM EDT
ciara: DO you ever get tired of being so disagreeable? And who appointed you as the spokeswoman for how all the Irish feel on any topic?
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ciaradexy | Jun 26, 2012, 06:55 AM EDT
Seanomelb, you spend so much time reading about history that you have no idea whats happening now! You have no idea how people in Ireland feel now! Get your head out of the books and live in the real world. I read a crime novel a few weeks ago. It doesnt convince me that the US is full of murderers and rapists now does it?
Real world Sean, try living in it.
Bunker. ''Americans always think in terms of being equal''? What utter cr@p! The US is the most unequal society in the first world! Put down the spliff and cop on man!
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barneyjo | Jun 26, 2012, 05:29 AM EDT
My reading of history tells me that the party was formed in Dublin at the end of the 19th Century, with the amalgamation of several pro-separatist groupings coming under the Sinn Fein Banner. Mind you the new name for this grouping (ie Sinn Fein) was coined at the inaugural meeting in Wynns Hotel, Lower Abbey St, by the lady who was acting as Minute taker; one Maire Butler by name. Of course she was a first cousin of Edward Carson, who went on to be regarded as the "Father of Ulster Unionism" so perhaps there was an "Agent Provocateur" in their midst after all, even from the early days :)
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seanomelb | Jun 25, 2012, 06:55 PM EDT
Pooor old Deano can't get any traction from his conspiracy theory.LOL
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Seanmor | Jun 25, 2012, 05:23 PM EDT
Last year before the queen visited Dublin and other places in the South, the "Belfast Telegraph" had many articles about the event. Beneath 4 or 5 of these articles were comments by me that suggested the English monarch be given "a hearty Céad Míme Fáilte". When she visits the other part of my homeland in the near future, I hope that McGuinness will greet her in similar fashion. Not only is the queen the head of the British state, she is also the head of the Churh of England, with which the Church of Ireland is in Communion with. That church is the only denomination that takes it name from the whole Irish nation and it- and all other Christian denominations - regard all of Ireland as a single entity.
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Bythebay | Jun 25, 2012, 02:02 PM EDT
It's not called Gaelic, it's called Irish.
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bunkerhill | Jun 25, 2012, 10:05 AM EDT
Wow! Ciaradexy is a "commoner," in her thinking. Americans always think in terms of being "equal" to everyone, the credo our beautiful country was founded on. We do not understand the thinking of "commoners," feeling often they have no choice. But now I know that for some reason there are people with a "commoner" mentality. To each his own as they say.
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IrelandNorth | Jun 25, 2012, 09:03 AM EDT
Judging by HM's cupla focail in Dublin Castle, EIIR was speaking the Connacht Gaelic. She might find the Ulster dialect initially disconcerting. Martín McG: "A Dhaoine Úasal agus a cháirde. Tá alán sásta óram da meach na sé chóntae arais linn arís! Tá alán cíos ar dhiol." Éilís a dó: "Cád atá a rá agát, a Mhairtin? Thúg mó Sheansaleir na Bhreatan STG£32m (miliún phunt Sasanach) chun na 26 chontae rialtanais nuair a bhi me ansin an blian seo caite, an tuigin tú - go dtí Eireann Aontaithe. Nach bhfuil a fhios agat!" Mhairtin: Gabh mó leisceal, a Eilis! Tá brón orm anois. Seo dhuit póg mor!" PS A credible rumour doing the rounds in Dublin was that EIIR was late for Her Garden of Rememberance gig due to having been sworn in to Cumann na nBan in the footsteps of Pearse at the GPO by P. O'Neill, between Princes's and Henry Streets. That's right lads. The Queens's a Fenian! Éilis a dó is getting a Fáinne Dáite from a Mhártín.
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