Israeli writer targeted for massive hate mail from Ireland after column
Wrote Irish schoolboys collecting for Palestine made anti-Semitic remarks
Published Saturday, February 2, 2013, 7:48 AM
Updated Saturday, February 2, 2013, 8:14 AM
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StanleyT | Feb 06, 2013, 07:29 AM EST
To continue, Woundedknee. Israel absorbed the Jewish refugees and turned them into productive citizens. The Arab world has kept the Palestinians separate, in separate camps There are even "refugee camps" in and around Ramallah!!!! And Abbas has stated that even when he gets his state, those refugees will still not become citizens because they must "return". No other refugee population in history has ever passed on its refugee status from generation to generation and no other refugee population in history has ever had a "right to return". In short, there was no ethnic cleansing by the Jews - although there was some by the Arabs - see the Old City of Jerusalem and the Gush Katif area: Jews murdered and pushed out.
Summary: The Arabs have always been the agents of their own misfortune. If they accepted Israel and worked with her, imagine how good life could be for all. In fact, you don't have to imagine. Google "What Occupation", also by Efraim Karsh, and read about life between 1967 and 1993, when Israel actually ruled over the Palestinians (they are now ruled by Fatah and Hamas). You'll be very surprised.
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StanleyT | Feb 06, 2013, 07:24 AM EST
Woundedknee, your history is very, very warped. A few things:
Around the end of the 19th century/beginning of the 20th, a small number of Jews began to arrive in the Holy Land, joining those whose families had been there for the last 3,000 years. These Jews bought land - often at highly inflated prices - that was considered worthless. They worked it, drained swamps, planted crops. In 1917, the Ottomans, who then ruled the entire Middle East, lost it to the Allied Powers. In 1920, the Allied Powers granted all of historic Palestine, including Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria and what is now Jordan, to the Jews. At the same time, they gave Syria, Lebanon and Mesopotamia (Iraq) to the Arabs. In 1921, Britain sliced off 80% of Palestine and gave it to the Hashemites, despite the fact that most of the population there were what is now known at "Palestinian". Throughout this time, Arabs attacked the Jews in the area, relentlessly and pitilessly. The Jews always had to fight to stay there. In 1937, after the Peel Commission, and again in 1948, after the UN Partition Vote, the Jews accepted yet another partition of their land - and the Arabs yet again rejected it. Five Arab armies attacked the Jews the day the British left, starting a war they couldn't lose - except they did. During that war, they urged the Arab inhabitants to get out of their way so that they could "push the Jews into the sea". Unfortunately, many of those Arabs listened to their leaders (this is all well documented. Read Palestine Betrayed by Efraim Karsh). Soon after the war, more than 800,000 Jews were expelled from Iraq, Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt etc - an exchange of population that means today, most of Israel's population is NOT from Europe or America, but from the Arab world.
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Smyrnian | Feb 06, 2013, 07:17 AM EST
WKnee - it is not for you to "correct'' anyone. Yes, it is inconveniently true. The Palestinians did just as I said. You don't have to like it. Also, keep your personal attacks to yourself and, as I have 'corrected' you before, personal attacks diminish you as a person, lessen the impact if your message and destroys any credibility you think you may have. Everyone knows thus but you. you always sound shrill and angry.
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EamonnDublin | Feb 06, 2013, 04:28 AM EST
"Gammy Knees" - an interesting revelation indeed! So some of the people dancing in the streets immediately after the murder of three thousand innocent people on 9/11 were not Palestinians at all (at all, at all, at all), but were Israeli Jews dressed up to LOOK like Palestinians. Interesting stuff! Can we please have more, such as names, addresses, etc. It would make a great documentary. Éamonn, Dublin, Ireland (but I am currently disguised as a Chinese dragon dancing my way along the Appian Way in Ballsbridge, heading towards Wongs's in Ranelagh). Chow mein, Number 47, please! Éamonn, Dublin.
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EamonnDublin | Feb 06, 2013, 04:15 AM EST
Seán - Come on, man, surely you can do better than this? Please, Seán, have another read of my posts and then attempt just a tiny bit of lateral thinking as to what they say and what meaning you took from them. I know you are not as stupid as you are trying to make out! Happy Space Day, Éamonn, Dublin.
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WoundedKnee | Feb 06, 2013, 03:36 AM EST
" Palestinian people who danced in the streets"-- Smyrnian, I corrected this vicious bit of Zionist propaganda on this site some time ago. It is a damn lie. I don't remember whether it was you who circulated this disgusting and deliberate falsehood on that occasion, but you do so now. That means you are a liar, Smyrnian. When I corrected Smyrnian's lie, I wrote that were reports that some Palestinian teenagers started to get off on the 9/11 attacks, but were quickly reprimanded by adults and removed from the streets. Aside from being a liar, Smyrnian is a racist and enemy of freedom. Palestinian people demand freedom, and Smyrhian does dishonest propaganda for oppression and murder. As to Palestinians' right to their homeland, many elderly Palestinians still keep and cherish the keys to their house in Jaffa, Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, homes from which they were ethnically cleansed. The huge majority of immigrant Israelis on the other hand came from places like Brooklyn, Russia, Poland. What right did folks from Brooklyn have to go steal other people's homes, to brutalize them, to discriminate against them, and to kill them? The kneejerk support for Israel demanded by Zionists, both Jewish and Christian, represents a wrong turn for US foreign policy. It was not always the US way, for decades we sought a fair balance between Israel and its neighbors. The Support Israel In Everything policy of recent years represents a denial of the values of fairness and freedom that we espouse.
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StanleyT | Feb 05, 2013, 10:22 PM EST
Joe Glackin, I've just googled "Irish relief boat sunk" - and guess what? Nothing! So it's hardly surprising you are unable to provide any links to prove your allegations. They're simply not true.
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StanleyT | Feb 05, 2013, 10:20 PM EST
Oh dear, Joe Glackin, here we go. I challenge you to provide proof of your blood libels and because you cannot, you attack me in the most childish manner possible. The resort of the bigot and the Jew hater.
JCS, show me proof of your allegations. It's not good enough to say you "heard it from a friend". If this incident really happened, provide credible proof. Give us a link. I simply cannot accept that a UNIFIL soldier would have stood by and not reported this to a higher authority.
So no, I don't believe posters' stories when that's all they are - stories. Provide the proof I've asked for and then let's talk.
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Joe Glackin | Feb 05, 2013, 09:23 PM EST
Jcs.The Irish Army were there but replying to an idiot like Stanley Laurel is bringing this conversation down.Strange when thew Irish relief boat was sank last year how the censored Israeli reported it.An Irish soldier on UN spokeof how a pregnant woman was murdered by israeli troops.They said she was a suicide bomber. Similar when the Brits shot children here.Reacting to idiots like Stanley Laurel only gives their crap a bit of credibility.
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Jcs | Feb 05, 2013, 08:25 PM EST
StanleyT, you seem to have difficulty in believing other posters stories,the only stories you want to believe are your own stories.
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seanomelb | Feb 05, 2013, 07:50 PM EST
Eamonn not even the Israeli's believe your Bull. The official (Israeli) figures for total jewish civilian deaths. Since 1948 3,000 Israeli civilians have been killed (not including the three wars) and 25,000 Palestinian civilians have been killed over the same period. I suggest you see an optometrist Eamonn you may be one eyed.
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StanleyT | Feb 05, 2013, 07:18 PM EST
Hoo boy, Joe Glackin, you are clearly incoherent. Hatred will do that to someone. And what media is censored? Are you suggesting Israeli media is censored? Then you really do not know what you're talking about. Take a look at Haaretz for one.
JCS - since when are UNIFIL soldiers too afraid of Israel to report atrocities like this? I don't believe that story for a moment. If it had really happened, the entire world would know about it.
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Smyrnian | Feb 05, 2013, 06:16 PM EST
Ah yes. Would this be the very same Palestinian people who danced in the streets when thousands of innocent men, women and children were killed by their Muslim brothers on 9-11? As for their Palestinian 'homeland', I suggest they talk to the Jordanians about that since they have most of what was the original 'state' of Palestine.
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Jcs | Feb 05, 2013, 05:56 PM EST
Friends of mine served with the UN peace core along the Israel Lebanon border in the 1980s and spoke many times of how the Israeli forces shot Hezbollah suspects dead at these border checkpoints. These Irish soldiers told me that they were told to take a walk whenever the Israel troops suspected they had stopped a Hezbollah suspect, and they told me that those suspects were summarily executed by the Israeli forces at those road side checkpoints.By their account the Israeli troops had a free reign of terror when it came to eliminating anyone they suspected were a threat to Israel,even the innocent as well as the terrorists.
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