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Whatever turns you on Jacer!! It is difficult to argue against ignorance and religious zealotry. Some Imams as well as some priests and Rabbis are liberal and respect each others religion.(You've probably never had a discussion with an Imam so your bigotry is without merit,but you have no shortage of arrogance!!
I note the undeserved attacks on the general populaces of people who practice Islam. The people themselves, like most people on our planet, are good people. Arabs are fiercely family-orientated people, unlike much of the USA's population. Comments like “they want to impose their traditions on us but won’t allow us practice our (Christian or Jewish or Sikh) traditions” are not entirely correct. As far as I know, only in Saudi Arabia is that the case. In almost every other predominantly Muslim country, Christians are allowed to practice their faith… there is a Catholic Church in Abu Dhabi (UAE, SA’s next door neighbour)for example - I attended Mass there. Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, Malaysia, even Pakistan, all allow practice of non-Muslim religions, all without pain of death (unless you exclude the fanatics in some countries, especially in hinterland Egypt, where Christians are physically crucified regularly by fanatics without so much as a by-line in any newspaper). And of course, even the Jewish state of Israel allows celebration of Mass and other Christian services.
So, yeah, Seano – their religion is caring and respectful alright. Their imams rule their “church” the way the Catholic Church should have run its affairs... eh?? *Chuckling* Go on… remind us all of the Inquisitions; really, we Katoliks shuda kept dem oul' Inquisitions going up to our present day, don’t’cha thinks??? There’d be a big diff around now, wouldn’t there be, if Inquisitionists still visited our homes daily??? *chuckling again* Seriously though, I’m not sorry to say to Seano and his kind that there is no such thing as “religious nonsense” – billions of people of whatever religion around the world are testimony that religion is hugely important and fulfilling - while his piteously sad atheist mind wallows in hollowness. Now Seano should really apologise for his “religious nonsense” remark and be repentant: say three Our Fathers for penance tonight Seano… (Even lapsed Irish Catholics like him, positing as modern atheists, remember the words of the greatest prayer ever).
Seano must be on the triple tipples again… he obviously doesn’t see that the thrust of my previous posts was to show how false Islam is, that I used the essence of the fruits of historian/academic Tom Holland’s televised research and my own personal experiences of living and working with Saudis and others of other Muslim countries during my years in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) to show just how misled people are by the false religion of Islam. Like Seano says, Arabs are, by and large, caring and respectful people generally – it’s just a pity the threats that they live under for not conforming to their imams teachings is so heavily enforced upon them – hands cut off for stealing, stoning to death for adultery and decapitation for murder and other offences.
Typical Muslim arrogance !They want to impose their traditions on us ,but how dare a Christian display any emblem of their religion in a Muslim country . Last year British Airways forbad a stewardess to wear a gold chain with a cross around her neck !
jimod: "Typical Irish insularity and lack of global vision". So "global vision" means importing huge numbers of Lithuanians? In that respect Ireland is the most globalist country in Europe, you dope!
Jews view Christianity as a false religion Sikhs view all other religions as false,Christians view all other religions as false. So whats your point Jacer I spent four months in Libya and found that most people were caring and respectful of others. I personally am not consumed with religious nonsense such as your post.
(I sorrily say that Islam is definitely a false religion) All “converts” like Loreta (obviously named after the Catholic Holy Family House in Loretta, Italy – google that for more info) and honest, but misled, believers in Islam should recognise the falsity of Islam as confirmed to me by this SA government ministerial employee and as I have consistently experienced its falsity throughout my life and travels. Drop all veils and covers-up and be what God wants them to be – mere human beings with souls in His glorious likeness. Everything else is your gift from God to believe in, or not, whether you’re Irish, American, Ozzie or an Islamically dominated believer. (Buala bos anois, mar sé do thoil é… Asif! *pardon intentional mistypo*)
(Haunches up? Ready for this truthful episode?) He said that his Saudi Arabian family’s history went back a long time, that he came from a south Arabian village family that was attacked by an army from Mecca (nth Arabia) which was slaughtered. Some family members survived the attack and lived on through the centuries. But the story of the slaughter was handed down through the family throughout the centuries since. And here he was, a descendant surviving member of the slaughter, a true SA man telling me, in my SA ex-pat home, that his family had never forgiven the army from Mecca and their allies from other villages for the killings. In his case, he was obliged under the laws of Saudi Arabia to behave like a Muslim but in his heart his he was empty of belief in Mohammed and Mecca. (And so I sorrily say, more…)
(jacers' self-true Holland-missing bits) When I lived and worked in Saudi Arabia for several years, I had occasion to meet many a good Saudi man and woman, whether business-wise, in the sun or in the night deserts of SA or on social occasions e.g. my SA prince bosses inviting employees like me, to a desert feast, or “party”, as we in the west would call it, with spit-roasted lamb on the table (geddit anyone?? the lamb… the lamb? the Lamb of Christ??? The Lamb of God), or in hospital waiting wards where head-scarfed face-covering women unashamedly hung out their breasts to feed their babies while scarf-covering up their faces. One day, one of the men, a government official with whom I had many a business meeting, asked if he could visit me at my ex-pat home place in Riyadh. Warily, I agreed. Over mint tea and biscuits, he astonished me. He said he was a non-believer in Islam. I asked him why? (Get yr haunches up, groan or don’t, for more…)
(Ok, more groaned up) Whereas there are lots of historical written records of Judaism and of Christianity around the time of “Mohammed” (630-640AD) referring to what the people of the deserts, Arabs, were up to, there’s not a single reference in the Koran or in early Islamic history to what THEY (the desert Arabs) were up to at that time (confirmed in the TV programme by an Islamic scholar). Now get this, if you please: I mentioned Holland’s belief that it was Syrians who started this whole “Islamic” religion. They were perfectly placed, weren’t they? Half-way between Constantinople and Jerusalem, the two most important places back in 6thC AD of trading and centres of religion? When they copied Christians and Jews praying towards Jerusalem, they made the Syrian Bekkaa valley their place to turn to and pray. Geddit? Bekkaa, not Mekkaa. Those who believe in Mecca should really get their act together and recognise all of its falseness. And I’ll tell you more, from personal experience: Holland is mostly right, a little bit partly wrong. (Note to self: write to Holland w/ words from the horse’s mouth; hopefully fill in missing bits of his research).
Briano!! ladies wearing the hijab are seen working in shops and offices all over Australia. Sacking a girl who wears a hijab is no different to sacking a girl on colour or religious beliefs it's just plain bigotry.
(Prayer granted; more) Holland, after his extensive physical-on-location and historical museum research, says he believes that the Arabs of the deserts organised themselves into a just-large-enough army, then designated a “person” called Mohammed (there is no historical record of the name ‘Mohammed’ being in existence before or in the 6thC AD) to be their angelic revelation, to make excuse under their newly invented religion called Islam to attack Jerusalem (another hugely international trading post) and gain power over all. That remains the objective of Islam today – to have power over all, including over yours and my country, wherever we are in the world. Holland’s research found that the Arab peoples extended from Nth Africa through Eygpt & Arabia right up to present-day Syria and into Turkey. He found that it was probably Syrian Arabs who led the original Muslim onslaught on Constantinople (Istanbul), and on Jerusalem, to gain all the powers of richness from the lands of milk and honey, which things they certainly did not have in their deserts. (Persian armies and Alex the Great’s armies tried the same thing for the riches of trade in these two places) (All groan for more now)
(Hi again... jacers is back from holidays; all can now groan, or, preferably, clap your hands). This lady Loreta is grossly misled by Islam, a “religion” that is wholly false. Recent research by a renowned UK cultural, religious and historical scholar, Tom Holland, has shown that this thing about Islam is all “cobblers” as we say in Ireland… all a huge big black lie. Well, we Christians and our fellow Abraham-people, Jews, all knew that anyway but we don’t shout it out loud enough that it is. This scholar’s research, presented on UK’s Channel 4 TV for the whole world to see “Islam – the Untold Story”, shows that there is no written historical record of a person called Mohammed. Or that he lived in Mecca. Or that the position of Islamic prayer mat should be pointed towards Mecca. He says it was Arabs (people of the Mid-east deserts) who, learning of the conquest of Istanbul (back then, and still, a hugely important international trading post) by a Roman Emperor, Constantine, under Christian conversion in the 3rd century AD, decided 300 years later, that if Constantine could do it, so can “we” Arabs. (All pray for more now…)
Ireland wanted all the benefits of EU membership, proudly wearing their virtual MEP badges, but when problems arise the attitude is "She can always go back where she came from". Typical Irish insularity and lack of global vision. Sounds a bit like the "No dogs. No blacks. No Irish." scenario of yesteryear being practised in the very country that complained it was a victim of it.
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