Irishman famous for YouTube rant comes forward
Based in Canada, his anger at Irish bailout spilled out
Published Monday, December 20, 2010, 5:29 AM
Updated Monday, December 20, 2010, 2:35 PM
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GeorgeDillon | Dec 22, 2010, 03:16 PM EST
kateomprint: "Anyway where would we be without the word f**k it sure fills a lot of gaps". You're certainly right there, that word fills in gaps in every sentence that the Irish utter. That's why they're known throughout the world as ignorant foulmouths. When I get off the plane at Dublin or Shannon I keep the earplugs in my ears, the ones that are given out during the flight. It's one small defense against having crudity and vulgarity forced on me by the Irish. Why don't they try thinking, for a change? Come on, guys, thinking don't hurt!
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GeorgeDillon | Dec 22, 2010, 03:12 PM EST
Pacifist, wrong again. It wasn't De Valera who introduced compulsory Irish. It was the Free State government of the 1920s.
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pacifist | Dec 22, 2010, 02:54 PM EST
GeorgeDillon, Are you objecting to capitalism? Well, I am surprised. But you are right in a certain way about the attitude most have toward the Irish language. However, if you know the Irish as much as you think you do, you will know that Fianna Fail - under the leadership of Eamon de Valera, introduced compulsory Irish in the educational system. And if there's something the Irish hate it is being forced to do something. You are partially right on Irish traditional music - it isn't as loved or followed as it once was, but very many people still love it deeply. I would include myself in that catagory. Nationalism? Once again you are right in part. Too many show lip service to nationalism and many others espouse a type of nationalism that is repugnant - an example of the latter would be Sinn Fein/IRA and other murderous nationalist terrorist groups. Then there are those who follow English soccer teams - teams such as Liverpool, Manchester United, Chelsea, etc., but when the English international side play against almost any country most of them support the team playing against the English. Your last comment is ill-considered. You fault people for leaving their own country where there is little or no employment and seek work elsewhhere for the sake of their loved ones. They are fleeing more than a mere recession - they are leaving a bankrupt country, but a country bankrupted by that most nationalistic and opportunistic of political parties, Fianna Fail.
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biggles008 | Dec 22, 2010, 01:10 PM EST
When you read it, STOP, and think for one minute.
You should then know that he is 100% right.
If you don't , you are not living in Ireland.
Happy Xmas to all.
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GeorgeDillon | Dec 22, 2010, 01:07 PM EST
pacifist: What you say is utter nonsense. Ireland is a very unnationalist country. Irish nationalism is restricted to shouting for the Irish team in international competitions, or getting behind some Irish person who does well in other spheres. But as regards respect for things that are intrinsically Irish, I see little when I go to Ireland. Most Irish hate the Irish language, for example, and I would say most sneer at Irish traditional music and think it somehow not "cool". Ireland has desecrated many of its historic places. For example, Frascati House, birthplace of the great Lord Edward Fitzgerald, was knocked down because some capitalist wanted to build a shopping center. Can you imagine Mount Vernon being knocked down like that. In fact, if you want to see a real nationalist country, look at us, the United States. We bring it to the other extreme, thinking we are better than everyone else. The Irish set no value onm their nationality--look how fast they are to abandon their country when an economic recession (not war, famine or plague, just a recession) comes along.
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pacifist | Dec 22, 2010, 08:59 AM EST
Conjoly, Weren't you listening? He did blame the politicians - that is the Fianna Fail led Government who allowed light bank regulation and didn't have strict oversight in place. But you are right in that the builders and bankers did what comes naturally to them. However isn't that the same with most of the politicians - about 99% of them? And kirtjohnson, your analysis is downright silly. The largest politicsl party, Fianna Fail, has boasted of its Irish nationalism since being founded in 1927 and has been in power for most of the years of the state's existence. As for your assertion that the Irish suffer from post-colonial self-hatred - more nonsense for it has been quite the opposite. The majority are steeped in a nationalism that is rooted in overt self-regard and the delusional notion that almost everybody in the world loves them. The catastrophic economic mismanagment was mainly at the hands of the FF led Government in cahoots with corrupt builders and bankers. The bankers in particular played a major role in illegal financial transactions - that is encouraging and facilitating depositers to put their money in off-shore accounts - the Bank of Ireland and Allied Irish Banks had particularily dirty hands. The one almost total exception was the Northern Ireland based, therefore British, Ulster Bank in that its illegal activities were negligible when compared to national Irish banks. The only conclusion I can draw concerning your skewed version of history is that you have been reading those Sinn Fein propaganda sheet - a supposed newspapers - An Phoblacht and/or the Republican News or some pot-boiled history. That the majority bought the fairy story peddled by Fianna Fail, mostly propagated by the Irish Independent from 1997 onwards especially is certainly true. But the Irish Times was not part of that conspiracy in 1997 and for some time afterwards that newspaper has been the severest of critics of FF and all its works for many years.
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kurtjohnson | Dec 21, 2010, 10:14 PM EST
The root cause is degenerate anglo materialism/determinism which has led to the mass consumer/industrial estate cancer. This was force fed to the Irish people by the Dublin media which had unionism as its ideological inheritance (i.e. the Irish Times). This diseased ideology was peddled as part of the continuing script of post-colonial self hatred originated by the planter ascendancy to destroy Irish nationalism.
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kateomprint | Dec 21, 2010, 09:34 AM EST
so what if he used bad language he got his point across. That is exactly how we all feel here and sometimes the word f***k and w****r are the only ones that can describe these bankers and politicians. Anyway where would we be without the word f**k it sure fills a lot of gaps
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Conjoly | Dec 21, 2010, 07:49 AM EST
Agree 100% with Towngate and GeorgeDillon. This guy is ineloquent to say the least and also misattributes blame for the whole problem - he glosses over the role of the (main culprits for the problems in Ireland), politicians.
Selouscout expresses my views exactly, except the electorate and the politicians deserve the most blame (together with the regulator) as the developers and bankers have only done what comes naturally.
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bluesman | Dec 21, 2010, 02:18 AM EST
So Dillion you must be a developer or banker????
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irishimport | Dec 20, 2010, 10:50 PM EST
I used to dance to Denis and his band Ryan's Fancy in the Maple Leaf Ballroom in Toronto in the early 70's They were a great group and the Maple Leaf was a great Irish meeting place
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pacifist | Dec 20, 2010, 07:58 PM EST
GeorgeDillion, I directly mentioned the foul language, but I understand that it was prompted by the rage he and the majority of Irish people feel about what the Fianna Fail led Government, Bankers and Builders have brought upon the Irish economy. However you focused on his having entertained British Royalty as if that is important. And your adolescent comment on his possibly having a threesome with Mick Jagger and David Bowie ( see isn't plain English better that that foreign language - French - we don't speak when making a point, silly as it is. And crude name calling by teddyboy who supports your somewhat outdated point of view doesn'y make your argument stronger. Do you think name calling is any more commendable than cursing?
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Selouscout | Dec 20, 2010, 05:41 PM EST
@ georgedillon,
Denis Ryan is absolutely correct. Corrupt Bankers, Land Speculators, Developers and of course… Ireland's great Politician’s.
But never forget the complacent electorate who keep voting these curs into office.
@Dublinjas... I agree
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Dublinjas | Dec 20, 2010, 04:26 PM EST
Well let me try some of that on you GeorgeDillon, You are the biggest Arsehole God ever put on Earth.
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