217 Comments

• moygannon | Jun 18, 2010, 12:30 AM EDT

  P.S. I left out Israel in my remarks.(Should have followed "way".)

• moygannon | Jun 18, 2010, 12:27 AM EDT

  In view of the way has already behaved I think any one attempting to take another ship to the area is sheer madness. It is a war zone.

• seanomelbourne | Jun 14, 2010, 07:55 PM EDT

  Patricklee Zionism(1879) was to establish a Jewish homeland no one is disputing that fact,but now that they have a homeland they are not happy with it and want to expand territory by theft and murder. Again I will clarify my position with you bleeding heart Zionist apologist's. I am an atheist I do not condone violence in the name of any religion. Justice and human kindness is all that matters. Murdering/starving Palestinian children is a crime against humanity which you are happy to condone.

• shuvonn | Jun 14, 2010, 09:35 AM EDT

  Turkey is an ALLY of Israel do YOU understand what THAT means? Calling the passengers of the flotilla *terrorists* is only an attempt to not take responsibility for the operation Israel SCREWED up. They are denying an independent inquiry, stole the cameras, the lap tops, over 3.5 million in cash and equipment, cell phones, and memory sticks, used footage they doctored to back up their lies. Some members of the IDF have USED credit cards from some of the passengers of that flotilla, they killed ten people, six are still missing and one was an American citizen. Helen Thomas was forced out of her job for those remarks, yet the Arab Israeli member of the Knesset was heckled and had her life threatened when she had her turn to speak in the Israeli Parliament. A Facebook group calling for her murder was set up, I do not see anything about YOU thinking that's an issue? The Palestinian HATERS are here in force too, get a label maker it would save ya when posting responses. Maybe YOU can grasp THIS, Israel is a ROGUE state, and while is has the right to protect itself and its citizens, that does NOT extend to UAE to murder someone with STOLEN passports, or International waters in full combat gear, masks, and armed to the teeth. Having a problem with Israels handling of the ILLEGAL BLOCKADE does NOT Make one antisemitic, some of you are just too biased to see that.

• PatrickLee | Jun 13, 2010, 02:41 PM EDT

  Shuvon: I know there is peace in Ireland... I posted that "these Irish do-gooders on the "RACHEL CORRIE" would concentrate in their own back yard in sustaining peace in Ireland" sustaining for you I should have said keeping the peace. Each time there is a possibility of peace between Israel and Palestine, the palestinians (and in this case the Turkish backed "peacful" flotilla) breach that peace. They (Hamas and others) won't be satisfied until the Jews are chased out of the middle east. Even the old news reporter (Helen Thomas) said that the Jews should get the hell out of Palestine go back to Germany or Poland. It is blatant anti-semetic B.S. That term isn't good enough for seanomelbourne, even though the term was coined back in 1879. So maybe you can grasp this... The Jew haters are showing their true faces.

• shuvonn | Jun 12, 2010, 03:16 AM EDT

  PatrickLee: Yes, we are aware of the *statistics* and they are that only 25% of the PRE-ILLEGAL blockade aid is being allowed through. And the list of banned goods is long and extensive including things such as paper, crayons, juice and many other items Israel deems to be luxuries. Amnesty International, Red Cross as well as the UN have condemned this illegal blockade. And no it was not to stir the pot of hatred, it was to draw world attention to the blockade. Egypt has opened the Rafah Crossing since this incident in international waters occurred. Please explain WHY only the rockets INTO Israel count to people like you who throw that anti semitic label around to anyone in the least bit critical of Israel and why the rockets into Gaza or Lebanon or anywhere else Israel choose to send rockets never count? FYI: We have peace in Ireland and you might have KNOWN that if YOU did the research :-)

• seanomelbourne | Jun 09, 2010, 07:09 PM EDT

  Islam is a semite religion. I am not against any religion. Maybe the difference between an anti-semite and an anti-zionist is to difficult for you to grasp.

• PatrickLee | Jun 09, 2010, 04:46 PM EDT

  No the comparisons are too close to home for you to say that. Hamas is a danger to not only Israel but to Egypt. It is more like the anti semites are showing thier true face.

• seanomelbourne | Jun 09, 2010, 10:38 AM EDT

  What a load of of horse manure, your comparisons are structurally unsound and there's not a shred of historical fact in what you say, hysterical would be the operative word. The bleeding heart zionist apologists are at it again.

• PatrickLee | Jun 09, 2010, 10:30 AM EDT

  The Irish have a background of violence. Someone throws a bomb and all hell breaks loose. On the other hand, the Palestine rockets and bombs landing in Israel should be ignored and nothing should be done. The only thing Israel has left is the blocade. ...and by the way; the blocade is an Israel(Jew)and Egypt(Arab) partnership to fight HAMAS. Israel request all "humanitarian" ships make a port call or be boarded for inspection. The ship in question did not. If the "RACHEL CORRIE" attempts the same stunt, may she find solace, as she is sinking, that she did it to stir the pot of hatred. There are statistics (if anyone actually does research) as to why the blocade is there and how long and what they have allowed to pass through. Maybe these Irish do-gooders on the "RACHEL CORRIE" would concentrate in their own back yard in sustaining peace in Ireland, then Israel would be better off. If this were happening during the Cuban blocade, these boats would be a welcome addition to the coral reefs.

• PatrickLee | Jun 09, 2010, 10:10 AM EDT

  Well since I asked to be removed from this liberal website but am still getting junk mail, here's my 2 cents wrth: The blocade is an Israel and Egypt partnership. Israel request all "humanitarian" ships make a port call for inspection. The ship in question did not. If the "RACHEL CORRIE" attempts the same stunt, may she find solace, as she is sinking, that she did it to stir the pot of hatred. There are statistics (if anyone actually does research) as to why the blocade is there and how long and what they have passed through. Maybe these Irish do-gooders on the "RACHEL CORRIE" would concentrate on their own back yard and sustaining peace in Ireland, then Israel would be better off. If this were happening during the Cuban blocade, these boats would be a welcome addition to the coral reefs.

• seanomelbourne | Jun 07, 2010, 11:22 PM EDT

  wxman life is so simple for you, your analogy is weak,your retort is argumentatively sad. Leave Fox on off for a week, to recharge your batteries with common sense

• shuvonn | Jun 06, 2010, 10:33 PM EDT

  Yes WX we have gathered that you do not care about the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. You have made that explicitly clear.

• irishwxman | Jun 06, 2010, 08:55 PM EDT

  So if Krauthammer were to write an article about WWII, since he is a Fox analyst, that makes WWII a false event? You think he made up the Land-for-peace deal? Are you that simple and naive? And you call me a lump of marshmallow. You are just thick.

• seanomelbourne | Jun 06, 2010, 07:03 PM EDT

  I doubt wxman that you have ever read history. Krauthammer Fox PAID panelist. They were all aid vessels out to break the blockade. Are you for real or a simpleton. I suggest that---no wait it's pointless talking to a lump of marshmallow I'm done here.

• irishwxman | Jun 06, 2010, 12:28 PM EDT

  Shuvon stop listing the contents of the boat. I don't care if there was crayons or paste on the boat. The organizer of the flotilla in Turkey ADMITTED this was not an aid vessel, it was sent to disrupt the blockade. It was sent to provoke and get a response out of people like you ans Sean. I guess it worked.

• irishwxman | Jun 06, 2010, 12:27 PM EDT

  Sean that is the worst excuse I have ever heard. You can't come up with a sound reasonable response so you attack Krauthammer as a propagandist. He is not a Fox employee. He comes on for commentary. You only listen to people who have the same ideology as you, and if they don't they are propagandists. What a load of bull. The word hypocrite comes to mind. What a loser. His article is based on historical facts. You don't like them, so you dismiss them. Kind of like being a holocaust denier.

• shuvonn | Jun 06, 2010, 08:36 AM EDT

  WX: Please explain how a flotilla with NO weapons, only crayons, paper, cement (to rebuild Israeli bulldozed and blown up homes)and other basic necessary supplies that Israel currently bans as luxuries on board could be in any way of aid to terrorists? As for the tons of food, the amount going into Gaza is 75% Less than pre-blockade amounts as per the US humanitarian aid programs in Gaza.

• seanomelbourne | Jun 06, 2010, 03:46 AM EDT

  Krauthammer another Fox employee.Israel occupied Lebanon and eventually returned to it's rightful owners because the occupation was faltering. They left Gaza for the same reason.Your are out of step with most of the world and fail to see injustice in Palestine. You skip over any modicum of justice for the Palestinian people. You quote propagandists like Krauthammer, who rewrite the facts to condone their illegitimate occupation of Palestine. you are merely a tool of these liars and they love you.

• irishwxman | Jun 06, 2010, 01:41 AM EDT

  and regardless of any of this, you know just as well as everyone else, the Hamas has consistently sent rockets over into Israel for years. Where is the condemnation of Hamas? Why do you only condemn Israel for merely protecting itself. I would bet my next paycheck that if Iran developed a nuke with every intention of using it against Israel, and they preemptively attacked Iran to disarm them, you all would STILL attack Israel and call them murderers. I can only imagine what you call the US military who kills the terrorists who try and harm the United States.

• irishwxman | Jun 06, 2010, 01:36 AM EDT

  information courtesy Charles Krauthammer. i want to make sure I give the credit where it is due. it was just easier to use his reference.

• irishwxman | Jun 06, 2010, 01:34 AM EDT

  Jews are not just a religious group. They are a race. Once again I will explain...Land for peace; during the past decade, Israel gave the land -- evacuating South Lebanon in 2000 and Gaza in 2005. What did it get? An intensification of belligerency, heavy militarization of the enemy side, multiple kidnappings, cross-border attacks and, from Gaza, years of unrelenting rocket attack. Israel then had to switch to active defense -- military action to disrupt, dismantle and defeat (to borrow President Obama's description of our campaign against the Taliban and al-Qaeda) the newly armed terrorist mini-states established in southern Lebanon and Gaza after Israel withdrew. The result? The Lebanon war of 2006 and Gaza operation of 2008-09. They were met with yet another avalanche of opprobrium and calumny by the same international community that had demanded the land-for-peace Israeli withdrawals in the first place. Worse, the U.N. Goldstone report, which essentially criminalized Israel's defensive operation in Gaza while whitewashing the casus belli -- the preceding and unprovoked Hamas rocket war -- effectively de-legitimized any active Israeli defense against its self-declared terror enemies.

• seanomelbourne | Jun 06, 2010, 12:55 AM EDT

  typo; Klan not clan

• seanomelbourne | Jun 06, 2010, 12:54 AM EDT

  How could a card carrying liberal like "me self" be a clan member. What land for peace please enlighten me, again you miss the point you espouse hatred and denigrate the ethnic or religious groups that do not fit into you little mold. I do not hate Jews or Arabs or Christians or any other. ethnic or religious group. You can gloss over with veiled pride your support for state terrorism,injustice and your lack of human dignity and your warped sense of history. Again what land for what peace?

• irishwxman | Jun 06, 2010, 12:00 AM EDT

  sense...not since. typo

• irishwxman | Jun 05, 2010, 11:57 PM EDT

  Are you talking about your family? I don't know anybody like that. But I'm sure they are lovely people. Actually you know it makes since; seeing as how you hate Jews so much, it wouldn't surprise me a bit if you were Klan. Obviously you absolutely NOTHING about the goings on down there..if you did you would know all about the land for peace deal....when your precious Palestinian murdering terrorists started lobbing rockets and killing innocent Israeli civilians. God forbid you actually condemn the actual terrorists here.

• seanomelbourne | Jun 05, 2010, 11:38 PM EDT

  Dear!dear! wxman you missed the point, over your head it went. I was not referring to the inadequate rationed daily needs of the Palestinian people, but to your previous statement. I w-i-l-l s-p-e-l-l it out for you. "Israel traded land for peace". But living down south of the M.D. line with your rifle between your knees cheering on Glen Beck,sitting on your brains reading tee bag-ger junk mail is all to much for you, have a rest son,put your haed over the ramparts and see the light.

• Monsoonman | Jun 05, 2010, 10:43 PM EDT

  Shuvonn????My post to you was informational only, I explained to you why the terrorists were head shot and you say I am making excuses for them? Don't shoot the messenger! and stop with the caps, my eyes are starting to exhibit symptoms of stigmata by reading your posts.

• irishwxman | Jun 05, 2010, 10:28 PM EDT

  shuvonn I have a GREAT youtube video for you to see.... you will love it! It's called "we con the world", and it is sang by the flotilla crew members. youtube.com/watch?v=FOGG_osOoVg&feature=player_embedded

• irishwxman | Jun 05, 2010, 10:26 PM EDT

  Sean it is you who lives in la la land. Seriously. I wouldn't doubt it if you lived in Los Angeles as far left as you are. you sound as maniacal as the celebrities. how do you get crumbs out of TONS and TONS of food and medical supplies?? Do you ever pay attention to news, or do you just ignore what you don't want to hear?

• irishwxman | Jun 05, 2010, 10:22 PM EDT

  Shuvon you say there is no excuse for murder in cold blood. Why do you think the blockade is up silly?! It is to stop the Palestinians from committing cold blooded murder against the Israelis!!

• shuvonn | Jun 05, 2010, 10:17 PM EDT

  You talk about the Muslims celebrating 9/11 and yet on YOutube there are Israelis celebrating the Flotilla massacre. And lamenting they did not sink all of the aid vessels... hmm

• shuvonn | Jun 05, 2010, 10:07 PM EDT

  Monsoonman you have been out in the rain TOO long, don't DARE make excuses for the MURDER OF citizens of an ALLY of Israel.A ship in INTERNATIONAL WATERS, AN ILLEGAL RAID ON A Turkish ship and YOU are TRYING to make excuses for that? You don't have a leg to stand on and your words only show how sick you are to try to even make excuses for the ROGUE state of Israel. I think Israel has lost it last ally, so you can stop your complaining that Israel is surrounded by enemies, THEY made their OWN bed, THEY CREATED THEIR OWN ENEMIES WITH THEIR CALLOUS AND ILLEGAL ACTIONS, they can now LIE (and they ARE LIARS OF THE LOWEST ORDER) in it and so be it.

• seanomelbourne | Jun 05, 2010, 10:04 PM EDT

  Five peace activists were shot in the back.nine were shot in total,there are five people missing allegedly thrown overboard by the i.d.f. wxman lives in lala land, Palestinians do not have to accept crumbs from the Israelis, what land have they traded, your ignorance is unbelievable.

• shuvonn | Jun 05, 2010, 09:58 PM EDT

  Wx: The blockade on Gaza IS ILLEGAL, this has NOTHING to do with ANY blockade illegal or not the US have run or operated. Take all the salt you want (it's really bad for you:-) Your references are less than stellar, There is NO excuse for MURDER in cold blood, NO weapons were found on ANY vessel, and the flotilla was arranged and paid for by allies of Israel. Israel HAS no land to trade it has STOLEN land each war, builds ILLEGAL settlements even when Biden was there they began construction on MORE illegal settlements. LIES is what your land for peace is. They are NOT MY precious Palestinian terrorists. It is pointless to talk to a PLANK..

• Monsoonman | Jun 05, 2010, 08:20 PM EDT

  Shuvon: The reasons some of the terrorists were shot in the head by the Israeli Defense forces is that they were wearing body armor. The only way you can kill someone is with a head shot. Hope this helped.

• irishwxman | Jun 05, 2010, 07:16 PM EDT

  Israel has traded territory for peace. But where peace offers were refused, Israel retained the territory as a protective buffer zone. Thus Israel retained a small strip of southern Lebanon to protect the villages of northern Israel. And it took many losses in Gaza, rather than expose Israeli border towns to Palestinian terror attacks. It is for the same reason America wages a grinding war in Afghanistan: You fight them there, so you don't have to fight them here. But under overwhelming outside pressure, Israel gave it up. The Israelis were told the occupations were not just illegal but at the root of the anti-Israel insurgencies -- and therefore withdrawal, by removing the cause, would bring peace. Land for peace. Remember? Well, during the past decade, Israel gave the land -- evacuating South Lebanon in 2000 and Gaza in 2005. What did it get? An intensification of belligerency, heavy militarization of the enemy side, multiple kidnappings, cross-border attacks and, from Gaza, years of unrelenting rocket attack from your precious Palestinian terrorists murderers.

• irishwxman | Jun 05, 2010, 07:15 PM EDT

  it is illegal according to you. And as I have stated before, and you refuse to answer, the United States did it too. So were the Americans breaking the law as well? According to you they were. And I take everything Clinton, Brown, and Cowen say with a large grain of salt. They also think it is OK to steal from the wealthy and give it to looters and moochers. So forgive me if your references are less than stellar. But even more important, why did Israel even have to resort to blockade? Because, blockade is Israel's fallback as the world systematically de-legitimizes its traditional ways of defending itself -- forward and active defense.

• shuvonn | Jun 05, 2010, 07:05 PM EDT

  Lets put this into perspective for ya. The blockade IS illegal. And Israel has banned certain goods (NOT WEAPONS) from being delivered. SO IF the aid was allowed to be escorted, they did not think it would get through. NOW none of the ships had ANY weapons on them. And the aid NOW being ALLOWED (AS IN ASIDE from this flotilla) is 75% less than PRE-ILLEGAL blockade, and that is NOT humane. It was ABOUT aid AND breaking the ILLEGAL blockade. And this is NOT about arming ANYONE, this is about allowing crayons (BANNED FROM GAZA BY ISRAEL NOW) and CEMENT (ALSO BANNED) into Gaza as well as other goods that are in short supply there, and currently necessities but deemed luxuries by Israel, so your assertion that there is no shortage there is untruthful. It is NOT rational as per Clinton, British prime minister and Irish Taoiseach. And the AID from the flotilla IS being refused presently because the people in Gaza want ALL of the flotilla members currently being held in Israeli jails (AFTER BEING KIDNAPPED ILLEGALLY IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS AND TAKEN TO ISRAEL) BEFORE they accept the aid, so saying they are refusing the aid is a LIE.

• irishwxman | Jun 05, 2010, 06:10 PM EDT

  You say the Gaza-bound ships were on a mission of humanitarian relief. No. Otherwise they would have accepted Israel's offer to bring their supplies to an Israeli port, be inspected for military materiel and have the rest trucked by Israel into Gaza -- as every week 10,000 tons of food, medicine and other humanitarian supplies are sent by Israel to Gaza. Why was the offer refused? Because, as organizer Greta Berlin ADMITTED, the flotilla WAS NOT about humanitarian relief but about breaking the blockade, i.e., ending Israel's inspection regime, which would mean unlimited shipping into Gaza and thus the unlimited arming of Hamas.

• irishwxman | Jun 05, 2010, 06:08 PM EDT

  And as for the blockade, it is not just perfectly rational, it is perfectly legal. Gaza under Hamas is a self-declared enemy of Israel -- a declaration backed up by more than 4,000 rockets fired at Israeli civilian territory. Yet having pledged itself to unceasing belligerency, Hamas claims victimhood when Israel imposes a blockade to prevent Hamas from arming itself with still more rockets.

• irishwxman | Jun 05, 2010, 06:04 PM EDT

  How did I even remotely begin to condescend to you? Do you even know what that word means? Not once did I talk down to you. I will talk down to you if you like. The reason I don't believe you have been to Gaza is quite frankly I don't even think you are old enough to drive. Your "diatribe" is reminiscent of a teen age high school girl. And as far as your "re-education"...i have no idea where that came from. You have the right to think what ever you want. that is the beauty of freedom and liberty. Just like I have the right to think our president is a complete spineless tool. That does not make me ant-American. That makes me anti-Obama. I think Brian Cowen is a spineless dweeb, but I am FAR from anti Ireland. I love this country. if I didn't I wouldn't care that we have a complete moron running it into the ground. Same goes for Ireland. I have family there who are in danger of losing their jobs because Cowen thinks its OK to give welfare to non Irish who choose to live on the dole. I can call you anti-Israel because you constantly belittle the country and the people. I don't have a problem with America....I have a problem with it's leadership. that is not anti-American...that is being free.

• shuvonn | Jun 05, 2010, 05:02 PM EDT

  Oh now after the insults we NOW have to resort to condescension? I frankly do not care if YOU believe that I have been to the Middle East or not, I have, and if the Royal *we* do not believe, frankly I do not care. Are those the same good people who want ME to go to be RE-EDUCATED? What kind of CAMP would that be?If YOU choose to denigrate Obama and the UN I have the right to be critical of Israel. You are anti American in your being critical of YOUR president who was DEMOCRATICALLY elected, do YOU understand THE concept of democracy? The Blockade is ILLEGAL. This is NOT about Cuba, that was YEARS ago, DO try to keep up, and whats going on in Gaza IS like NAZI Germany. It is illegal to board sovereign vessels in International waters. What Israel did was attack its ally, Turkey and murder 8 of its citizens and 1 US citizen,with what is proving to be brute force, the Guardian, UK, has the autopsies where many were shot at point blank range in the face. I am not a terrorist sympathizer and your repeating that does NOT make it so. You DO so like to make assumptions and think that 1 1 make ten, so knock yourself out, you negate your own posts by your nasty vitriolic vents. It suits Israel to lie and claim they had terrorist ties, like it suits them to deny a fair and indepedent investigation. Turkey was Israels only ally, they preformed military exercises together, there was NO terrorist ties with anyone on the ship. There has been NO proof of these allegations as there was no weapons found on any of them.

• irishwxman | Jun 05, 2010, 03:34 PM EDT

  Your arguments are weak. Your stories are propaganda, and forgive me if I choose not to believe you have been to Gaza. I just think you are full of it quite frankly. Everyday more and more news breaks that crew members of that flotilla had terror ties. I assume you will negate that? Of course you will. You are a terror sympathizer. You won't sleep until Iran acquires its nuclear arsenal, gives them to Hamas, and they proceed to wipe Israel off the map.

• irishwxman | Jun 05, 2010, 03:31 PM EDT

  oh "we" are not all buying it? I have news for you sweetheart, the majority of the American people support Israel, and are at odds with people like you. The "good people" on your precious "aid flotilla" are screaming for the Jews to go back to Auschwitz. Yeah...those are some really good people. Sounds a lot like Nazi Germany to me. And as for your "illegal blockade"...In World War II, with full international legality, the United States blockaded Germany and Japan. And during the October 1962 missile crisis, we blockaded ("quarantined") Cuba. Arms-bearing Russian ships headed to Cuba turned back because the Soviets knew that the U.S. Navy would either board them or sink them. Yet Israel is accused of international criminality for doing precisely what John Kennedy did: impose a naval blockade to prevent a hostile state from acquiring lethal weaponry. I guess those were illegal too?

• shuvonn | Jun 05, 2010, 02:01 PM EDT

  Yes I have been to Gaza. The Aid currently being *ALLOWED* by Israel is down 75% from PRE illegal blockade aid. I don't CARE how YOU SEE an ally of Israel that is TURKEY as well as many other nationalities trying to help when some of the activists were murdered with 30 bullets needed to kill 9 men one of whom was a US citizen. Some of whom were shot several times in the face as per UK Guardian newspaper. Spare us your diatribe of name calling and verbal diarrhea, Israel Denies the Palestinians of Gaza, crayons and paper? And spare me your pro-Israeli right wing Fox diatribe, we all are NOT buying it, the WORLD is watching...

• irishwxman | Jun 05, 2010, 01:51 PM EDT

  You have been to Gaza? seen the horrendous conditions those poor people live in? The starving children? The sick people with no medical aid? Of course you didn't BECAUSE THAT IS NOT WHAT GAZA IS LIKE!! Spare us your bleeding heart sob stories. ton and tons of food, aid, and medical supplies make it into Gaza every day by guess who? THE ISRAELIS!! The people you so choose to demonize are helping your poor helpless little Palestinians terrorists.

• irishwxman | Jun 05, 2010, 01:48 PM EDT

  AHh so you have been there. I see. Well the ship made it without difficulty or incident. I am sure that just drives you crazy. I'm sure you were just on the edge of your seat praying for Israel to do something so you could come back on here and blast them. Darn. Better luck next time. So in your opinion, the flotilla was the "good men" and the crew of this ship? You see them as good people trying to help, I see them as trouble makers trying to start a fight. If they wanted to help truly, then they could have done what Israel asked of them without question and it would have been over.

• shuvonn | Jun 05, 2010, 01:30 PM EDT

  I have been to the middle east, and I have said that previously. So I HAVE seen this for myself. There IS no discussing with you, you label, insult and categorize anyone who disagrees. I do not see where anyone is limited to what they can write and if you are claiming you are, that has NOTHING to do with me. And to quote Edmund Burke "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

• irishwxman | Jun 05, 2010, 12:41 PM EDT

  Monsoonman...I realized long ago you cannot convince someone who has been corrupted by liberalism. Shuvon is clearly a pro Palestinian person. I can guarantee you s/he has never even seen the shores of Gaza. Rachel Corrie, while her death is a tragedy, is symptomatic of the life of a clueless activist...much like the rest of these anti Israel Hamas sympathizers...clueless.

• Monsoonman | Jun 05, 2010, 11:03 AM EDT

  shuvonn: I have a question, why is it you can write multi paragraph tomes here while the regular people who want to refute what you say are relegated to a couple of sentences? I also suggest you go to the middle east and see some of this for yourself. thee is nothing like a birds eye view of things, then get back to me and we can have a discussion.

• shuvonn | Jun 05, 2010, 10:48 AM EDT

  IF you REALLY want to talk FACTS: Lets talk FACTS. The blockade of Gaza is ILLEGAL as per the UN. I agree Israel has the right to exist and that rockets from Gaza need to stop. NO one (I AM REALLY TIRED OF REPEATING THIS) objected to the cargo being inspected, NO ONE DID!! There was cement in that cargo, that is a banned substance in Gaza (Israel can destroy Palestinian homes and yet never allow them to rebuild and yet can build ILLEGAL settlements all over for themselves?. The flotilla organizers were concerned the goods they were transporting would be CONFISCATED by Israel, and NEVER delivered. Aid ships HAVE been allowed in before, Egypt has opened it's Rafah crossing since June 2nd. This has NOTHING to do with terrorists, this is HUMANITARIAN AID, paid for and organized by citizens of MANY countries, ALL ALLIES OF ISRAEL NOT in ANY way hostile towards Israel. There were NO weapons found on the vessels. NONE. YOUR TRUTH IS NOT MINE, and NEVER WILL BE. I do not read directly from CAIR and NEVER have, I seek MY truth from many news sources NOT JUST FOX, or CNN, which are so SLANTED AND ONE SIDED pro-Israeli. HOW MANY PALESTINIANS have lost their lives? How many rockets or attacks have been launched by Israel against Gaza, Lebanon? HOW MANY? Do ONLY JEWISH or Israeli lives count? Israel's rogue actions against the citizens of ANY one they feel threatened by is out of control. U.S, citizens, Turkish, whatever, whenever, and YOU think that's OKAY as long as its NOT Israeli's. Spare me YOUR truth, this has nothing to do with terrorism, not everyone who has sympathy for Palestinians is a terrorist supporter. IS the 83 year old holocaust survivor on board the Rachel Corrie a terrorist supporter? Or the retired American diplomat? The Nobel peace prize winner who worked hard to achieve peace in NI one?

• Monsoonman | Jun 05, 2010, 10:14 AM EDT

  How about discussing the issues with some truth for a change rather than reading directly from the CAIR script. Israel has a right to exist. Iran is funding Hamas. Iran and Hamas have called for the utter destruction of israel, no discussion, no bargaining, just destroy Israel. Israel will inspect what gets shipped into Gaza as Gaza has been used as a launching point for 4500 rocket attacks against Israel. end of discussion.

• shuvonn | Jun 05, 2010, 08:38 AM EDT

  It is amazing how the tone of exchange goes down when one expresses a different opinion. How sad that one cannot exchange ideas that are different in an intelligent manner. One has to lash out and call names when one is disagreed with in a cordial manner. Looney tunes, snot nosed brats, who don't listen to news. Very mature indeed. could we perhaps get back to discussing the issues here, without insult?

• irishwxman | Jun 05, 2010, 02:24 AM EDT

  youtube.com/watch?v=FOGG_osOoVg&feature=player_embedded

• irishwxman | Jun 05, 2010, 12:46 AM EDT

  I love how Kevin thinks he has the pulse of the Irish people. that is really funny to me. Are you the official Spokesman for Ireland kev? LOL!!!

• irishwxman | Jun 05, 2010, 12:45 AM EDT

  I think so Monsoonman. The looney tunes are out in full force tonight. Let them think what they want. They are snot nosed brats who don't read news, they listen to Hollywood celebrities to get their warped sense of direction.

• kevinhayes | Jun 05, 2010, 12:38 AM EDT

  Yes, you're howling!

• Monsoonman | Jun 04, 2010, 09:49 PM EDT

  Is the moon full?

• kevinhayes | Jun 04, 2010, 07:31 PM EDT

  The Irish people are with the Rachel Corrie - overwhelming support for its mission in Ireland. When FNC/Israeli lapdogs like @irishwxman are losing the propaganda, because of thefacts on the ground all they can do is call names (loon/goon) and spread Fox News disinformation, as well as inept analogies about the October 1962 crisis. I see you're a big fan of Bill "Falafel" O'Reilly, also, Waxie! Never mind the issues, just lash out. You're losing this one, dude. One of the more interesting things about this is that some (most?) of the political left and a lot of the MSM are with you on Israel - vide Spitzer on the Dylan Ratigan Show on MSNBC in recent days. The ditto-heads, the modern day Know-Nothings, are of course, full steam ahead - but not literally in the case of the Rachel Corrie! You betcha! BTW, how's that "drilly drilly" thing working for you and the Quitter now?

• seanomelbourne | Jun 04, 2010, 07:00 PM EDT

  ah! wxman a deputy sheriff straight out of cannonball run. He takes narrow-mindedness to the extreme you betcha!

• irishwxman | Jun 04, 2010, 06:34 PM EDT

  Ahhh Kevin yet another big government, nanny state loving liberal loon. Obama a goon? YOU BETCHA!!

• irishwxman | Jun 04, 2010, 06:33 PM EDT

  In World War II, with full international legality, the United States blockaded Germany and Japan. And during the October 1962 missile crisis, we blockaded ("quarantined") Cuba. Arms-bearing Russian ships headed to Cuba turned back because the Soviets knew that the U.S. Navy would either board them or sink them. Yet Israel is accused of international criminality for doing precisely what John Kennedy did: impose a naval blockade to prevent a hostile state from acquiring lethal weaponry.

• kevinhayes | Jun 04, 2010, 03:23 PM EDT

  @shuvonn, keep fighting the good fight here. @wxman is pointless to argue with - how can you take seriously anyone who prefers Palin to President Obama and calls him a "goon"? Her material is straight from the Beck hymnal ("social justice", anyone? Yes, one of the few things you can admire Catholicism for) with major under notes of Limbaugh. If Palin would man up and do just one serious interview maybe we could see there's something there but she's had almost 2 years on the national scene and she's still cowering behind Facebook, Twitter and paid gigs in front of ditto-heads

• shuvonn | Jun 04, 2010, 07:55 AM EDT

  McNabb: I do not need re-education, and the fact that you suggest eerily brings up the past and Orwell's 1984 and not in a good way, so you advocate RE-EDUCATION when another disagrees? I thought was was what Democracy was about? Being able to have an opinion that was different to others? And as for the UN, they are not God to me, sheesh really make broad sweeping assumptions, and you do NOT speak for me. ANDREW: I would NOT expect an impartial *INVESTIGATION* (and I use that word lightly) from Israel as it is not in its best interest to find out what really happened and only using *SELECTIVE* bits of footage that back up its *STORY* is not telling the whole truth. Maritime law says you can defend yourself in International waters if attacked And IF Israel wanted to simply *INSPECT* the vessel I don't think the dead of night, with commandos in full combat gear and masks as well as machine guns was the best way to do it. NO one said the cargo could not be inspected. And the lies that Israel is NOW telling regarding the non acceptance, of the aid, when Gaza have said they will ONLY accept it WHEN all of the flotilla activists are out of jail or home safely. There IS a difference but like WILLIAM BLAKE says *The truth when told with BAD INTENT, is worse than lies you could invent.

• shuvonn | Jun 04, 2010, 07:24 AM EDT

  WXman I am not a fan of government hand outs, yet there are times when people may need them for a short period of time, not to citizens or especially illegals. Affordable health care is a reasonable thing to expect, NOT handouts. US is already paying for the health care of illegals, under insured, and funding unsuccessful wars all over the world.And the country has already said its okay to carry a gun, the NRA is a powerful lobby. You can call me names all you like, it actually NEGATES any points you make. And if you do not think that Palin would make a good president, obviously you have not thought THAT through she would be ONE heart beat AWAY from the presidency if she became VP. She is under qualified for that position, she was a bad choice for McCain. She lacks international experience and the US badly need that at this time. I am not a terrorist sympathizer and your calling me that does not make me one and I am not Anti-Israel, I disagreed with their actions regarding this flotilla, that does not make me anti-Israeli. Does YOUR speaking so disrespectfully of the president make YOU anti-American?. I do not want America to fail but why is it okay for Bush to spend BILLIONS on a failed war, and not okay for Obama to try to get people back to work and stimulate the economy? You make broad sweeping assumptions, insult and think it's okay for YOU to say you do not like Obama, and think the UN is full of liars and I cannot be in any way critical of Israel over the death of Turkish citizens? You are basically saying to me that when you want MY opinion, you will give it to me....no thanks I can think on my own.

• irl32csc | Jun 04, 2010, 06:21 AM EDT

  President Lyndon Johnson ordered the recall [of US aircraft sent to assist the USS Liberty] with the comment that he did not care if every man drowned and the ship sank, but that he would not embarrass his allies [Israel]. With allies like that we don’t need any enemies.

• seanomelbourne | Jun 04, 2010, 06:02 AM EDT

  You missed the point as usual(conveniently). Maybe they confused "old glory" with some terrorist flag.You and your ilk keep dodging the facts and spew some silly well worn hackneyed expressions, again you are an apologist for state sanctioned terror.

• AnderwRutheford | Jun 04, 2010, 04:39 AM EDT

  What other remote and insignificant for today's issues incident will you pull out of the attic? Johnson himself said it was a mistake: during 6 day war El Arish area was bombed, according to US there were no US vessel around, so clearly Israel thought she was fired at from sea and destroyed what ever fired at her. Now, try remind what else crap you could throw at Israel, just remember not to do it facing a vantilator, it could get back at your face.

• seanomelbourne | Jun 04, 2010, 03:48 AM EDT

  By the way Monsoonman the USS LIBERTY was sunk by the Israelis in international waters(1967) murdering 33 servicemen and 1 civilian maybe you can justify that act of piracy for me.But I think you know of the above incident and would not mention the same,probably to complicated and may weaken your argument.

• seanomelbourne | Jun 04, 2010, 03:28 AM EDT

  lordy! Lordy!Lordy! We've got another one, where will it all end? Andrew look up piracy and "international waters". We have another bleeding heart promoter of state terrorism. By the way wxman I love the U.S of A. but that doe's not mean I have to slavishly condone there international expeditions.

• AnderwRutheford | Jun 04, 2010, 02:04 AM EDT

  Wow, maybe Mavi weren't such peace loving friendly activicts after all, but rather leaning towards terrorists (big surprise sure): inquiry of commando reveals that after beeing stabbed and clubbed 3 soldiers were kidnapped to stern, released only after tens of soldiers went on top of the deck, this time not with toy guns. And what Israel does, idioticly?! kicks then out of the country, without a trial, to Turkey, to be received as heroes, Al jazeera shows them like escaped from sure death by blood thirsty IDF, and some of them mumbling about regretting for not becoming shahids. For those who don't know, shahid is a muslim that killed and died for Allah. Real humanitarians -if this is the face of peaceful arabs, how would aggressive arabs look like?!

• irishwxman | Jun 04, 2010, 12:10 AM EDT

  wow. You REALLY hate America don't you?

• seanomelbourne | Jun 03, 2010, 11:27 PM EDT

  Now,now, wxman keep to point try not to denigrate yourself with silly commentary. By the way do you mean occupied Cuba,but who cares the Americans took it.

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 10:57 PM EDT

  Yeah right. Keep spreading your typical liberal moonbat talking points scrub. Somebody might listen. Don't you have to go back to Gitmo and march for terrorists rights or something??

• seanomelbourne | Jun 03, 2010, 09:42 PM EDT

  Tell a propaganda lie often enough and waxman and his cohorts will swallow it hook line and sinker. They condone Israeli terrorism, bulldozing houses with their panzer units,strafing women and children with there Luftwaffe,shooting children with their stormtroopers.starving people and herding them into ghetto's. History seem to be repeating itself.

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 09:07 PM EDT

  Palin is not qualified to be president, but Obama is? The community organizer? How is it scary that she would be in charge? Are you afraid she would say its OK to carry a gun? She would stop the unnecessary entitlement programs and force people to get off the couch and actually work? And that is bad how exactly? You are so uninformed it is actually scary. To want a smaller government and embrace liberty is anti American? Where did you hear that garbage? It is the antithesis of anti Americanism. And FYI I LOVE it that you don't agree with me. It allows the rest of the readers here to see your lunacy. They will see you are a terrorist sympathizer, anti-Israel, you are for bigger government and you believe in entitlement programs. You believe that rich people should be paying for the less fortunate. (social justice) You basically want America to fail like Greece and likely Ireland because if Cowen's inability to lead. I am not saying Palin should be president. I am just saying she would be a heck of a lot better than the goon we have in there now destroying this great nation.

• shuvonn | Jun 03, 2010, 08:48 PM EDT

  Palin is in NO way qualified to be VP of this country. She would be ONE heart beat away from the presidency, now THAT is scary....Her international experience is ZERO, she is a TEA party activist that is against the government of the US and you are on her side, maybe that makes you ANTI-AMERICAN??? But WAIT, LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT, it's OK for YOU to be ANTI-AMERICAN by being critical of its government but apparently I cannot say ONE bad word that is critical of Israel, apparently different rules for YOU and ME, AHH sure why didn't ya tell me that at the beginning of all of this? There is NO point in arguing with a PLANK or a 2x4. I KNOW what SCOTUS is, I was just making FUN of it, as you may have been lately with the appointments Obama has made since he was elected,and I am quite familiar with what an acronym is,AND you have just made another LEAP in assumption and judgment Just because you do NOT agree with me does not mean I am off the reservation (AGAIN with the NAME CALLING and INSULTS). I could say the same about YOU but yer simply NOT listening however I DO seem to push YOUR buttons, you have three responses to my one most times.....and I HATE cool-aid FYI, never drink soda ( AMERICAN SODA tastes like it IS LADEN WITH TEN TIMES MORE SUGAR ANYWAY) Believe you me, ALL kinds of bells and whistles were BLOWN on you DAYS ago with your hateful diatribe against the government of the US and the way you handle it when someone disagrees with ya...

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 07:14 PM EDT

  and the fact you could not give me one reason why Palin wouldn't do a better job tells me you just follow the crowd and drink the kool-aid. Well the fact you took the "seeing Russia from my house" quote as gospel should have blown all kinds of bells and whistles.

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 07:10 PM EDT

  Oh..and for the record, because I'm sure you have no clue what an "acronym" is, an acronym is an abbreviation that is formed using the initial components in a phrase or name. :)

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 07:08 PM EDT

  "again with the name calling....again with the name calling..." You sound like a parrot. The sooner you stop saying things that are off the reservation, the sooner I will stop calling you a loon. But so far you have not proven otherwise. And SCOTUS is an acronym for Supreme Court Of The United States you loon. Now get ready for bed...its a school night.

• shuvonn | Jun 03, 2010, 06:06 PM EDT

  Again with the name calling. You have said all you need to say for me NOT to take you seriously by claiming that Palin would be a better choice. There is no point in talking to the WAILING WX WALL here, I am not preaching to the converted, I am attempting to preach to those who have a rabid desire to preach that ONE country has the right to protect its citizens and NO other country has those same rights. The usual names (LOON etc) the usual diatribe. Good luck in your Inter.....FYI that's an exam they take in Ireland :-) Scotus or scrotus voted on that? Yeah I have watched SNL, you are like the Debbie Downer of the Irish Central boards LOL... WailingWXman

• McNabb1966 | Jun 03, 2010, 05:59 PM EDT

  @irishwxman...I'm sure you're right about dear shuvonn. Nevertheless, the meme shall not be allowed to go unchallenged. So we must continue to educate her and those who naively think the way she does.

• jimmy12003 | Jun 03, 2010, 05:53 PM EDT

  its a pitty the irish boat isnt armed to the teeth! and blow the choppers out of the sky before they get to drop terrorists on to it! the sooner the nuke is sent in the better! when you look at the middle east as a whole, what of use do they give out into the world accept torror! atleast the rest of the middle east give oil and even drugs! but nothing from them cu-nts accept this kind of cr-ap!

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 05:52 PM EDT

  No use McNabb. She will just throw the UN back at you. To Shuvonn the UN is God.

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 05:48 PM EDT

  You would like them to stop? Well you seem to be the biggest supporter of them, maybe you can ask them nicely to stop. I think there are more dead, because Israel has had more experience defending themselves than Palestine. You see Palestine is not under threat of total annihilation like Israel is. Iran doesn't want to wipe Palestine off the map. So a country forced to defend itself is probably the better military might. And what holy sites in Jerusalem are there to a Muslim? that is a Jewish and Christina holy land. And this statement is about as stupid a statement as you can give..."Jerusalem MAY be the capital of Israel but what gives Jews more right to it than Palestinians?" That's like saying Seoul may be the capitol of South Korea...but what gives the South Koreans more right to it than the North Koreans?" sheesh.

• Informer | Jun 03, 2010, 05:44 PM EDT

  Maritime law you say... it doesn't matter, all the international scribble. Gaza, or should I say future Hamastan, has been announced hostile and in state of war with Israel since they lounched tens of rockets every day at Israelies towns. Hence, they got every right to inspect cargo that's to be shiped to Gaza. Don't be naive, when in war, al that matters is safety of your people.

• McNabb1966 | Jun 03, 2010, 05:41 PM EDT

  @shuvonn... No weapons found...except the ones that the terrorists aboard the ship used to attack the IDF. Besides, the point of the flotilla was to provoke this incident, so there was no need to smuggle weaponry...on this trip, anyway. If you think that Gaza is suffering from a humanitarian crisis then you are either naive or deliberately obtuse. They are not. Also, your claim that the blockade is "not formally recognized by any country" is false. Egypt has also been enforcing the blockade and is in the process of closing the myriad of tunnels being dug in which to smuggled weapons into Gaza. So far I haven't seen you be accurate or honest about any the issues that have been touched upon in this thread. Is reality so hard for you to cope with?

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 05:35 PM EDT

  I'm starting to see a pattern here. Obama supporter...Obama is anti Israel...you are anti Israel...you dislike Palin (for God knows why) Obama hate Palin. Me thinks you truly are a liberal loon.

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 05:32 PM EDT

  No you clearly have NOT read it AT ALL. You said, and I quote, "and states do not have the right to go rogue on their own and discriminate against people who *LOOK* like they are illegal..." If you had read the bill you would know it is illegal for the police to profile based on race. Strike one. Also if you had done any research you would know that the AZ law MIRRORS federal law. In fact Federal law ALLOWS profiling. A decision unanimously voted on by the SCOTUS. Federal law is much more harsh, it's just nobody will enforce it. And you proved nothing with your sharing of Ulster reference. Dublin is the CAPITOL of Ireland. NOT Ulster. It is apples and Oranges. Your reference is ridiculous. Can you imagine the Dail Eireann sharing a room with the British parliament? I can't! And FYI Sarah Palin NEVER said she could see Russia from her house. That was an SNL skit. I am really starting to question your references. And yes. Palin would be MUCH better than O-Bama and his thugs. I'm sure she wouldn't have spent us into oblivion with failed policy.

• shuvonn | Jun 03, 2010, 05:22 PM EDT

  And yet again the name calling. YOU misquote ME and project that I do that to you. Jerusalem MAY be the capital of Israel but what gives jews more right to it than palestinians? There are holy sites that are important to muslims there also. That WAS a question I have asked over and over and you have NOT answered, why do jews holy sites count and NOT others? you just ignore it. The disproportionate number of Palestinian dead over Israeli dead even WITH the rockets says they DO need to keep defending themselves. And as for the rockets into Israel I would like for them to stop. And I would never want Israel to be destroyed, they DO grow such nice tomatoes and herbs and they have made some advancements in modern medicine. Please DO try to not put words in my posts that are clearly NOT there. Oy Vey it IS like talking to the WAILING wall, all diatribe and insult when one does not agree...

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 05:18 PM EDT

  Give it up informer. Shuvon hates Israel. S/he will curse them to hell if need be. They could find a cure for cancer and s/he would demand it be shared with Palestine.

• shuvonn | Jun 03, 2010, 05:14 PM EDT

  Oh but I HAVE read the az law. And I am quite familiar with it. Its ONE state that feels threatened because it is on the front line. Your Spelling the counties proves NOTHING, you said imagine England sharing Dublin and I used Ulster as an example PROVING that SHARING is HAPPENING. Anyone can google NI and get them names LOL, your list proves nothing but your example of sharing not working was NULLIFIED by my proof that its ALREADY going on now with limited success in NI :-) No knee jerk reactions here, you seem to use that term a lot and I think you are simply projecting what YOU do yourself. DID ya think McCain would be better with his BAD choice for VP? I mean she was all over the world cause she can see Russia from her house ( apparently she cannot, but it could be cause she already wears glasses ) and she was in Ireland once, but she failed to mention she never got off the plane so that kinda doesn't count donchaknow?

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 05:04 PM EDT

  I know Ireland has 6 counties in Ulster that are part of the UK. I know WHY there are 6 counties in Ulster that are part of the UK. I can even tell you the year that was decided if you like. And who signed the treaty ending the 800 year war with the UK for Irish independence. You honestly think I was serious when I said I didn't know about Antrim, Derry, Tyrone, Down, Armagh, and Fermanagh. (I spelled them out so you wouldn't have any doubts about my knowledge) P.S. Do me a favor and read the AZ law. you obviously haven't. Another knee-jerk reaction. Much like Obama, and the rest of his goons.

• shuvonn | Jun 03, 2010, 05:02 PM EDT

  informer: NO weapons were found on any of those vessels. NO weapons. NO righteousness involved just the FACTS, a Turkish vessel in International waters was boarded and taken over illegally ( you are OBVIOUSLY NOT familiar with maritime law) and 8 Turkish citizens and 1 American were killed, rather heavy handed for a so called INSPECTION, don't you think? And I would not be having an inspection of cargo in the dead of night, in International waters whereby the passengers have the LEGAL right ( MARITIME LAW) to protect themselves by IDF wearing FULL combat gear, with masks AND carrying machine guns. You are WAY off base BOYO !

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 04:57 PM EDT

  oi...its like talking to a brick wall. Once again for those in the cheap seats. BECAUSE JERUSALEM IS THE CAPITOL OF ISRAEL!!!NOT PALESTINE!! And Palestine is the AGGRESSOR. Israel is not lobbing rockets into Israel. Palestine is! So why would the Palestinians need to defend themselves from a country defending itself? That makes ZERO sense!! You arguments are soooo bad. And you are misquoting me yet again... I said, "If the Arabs lay down their arms there will be peace. (note, no Israel will be safe) And if Israel were to lay down their arms there will be no Israel. that is because the Arab nations will swoop in and DESTROY ISRAEL. I'm starting to think you would LOVE for that to happen. I'm guessing here...you're what? 15, 16 years old? you have about as much common sense of a rake.

• shuvonn | Jun 03, 2010, 04:51 PM EDT

  AND PRAY WHO are YOU to suggest Palestinians have no right to Jerusalem? See how this works??? SO it is okay for Israel to have weapons to defend itself but Palestinians are not allowed to? As for the laying down of arms you said others HAD to NOT Israel,YOU said Arabs lay down arms Israel is safe, Israel lays down arms NO Israel ( you seem to have forgotten what YOU said. so the backtracking will not work now. That IS what YOU said. As for Ulster you apparently didn't know,OR fired off your post too quick because what YOU said they were not sharing it GB and Ireland and they ARE. The chosen people is about the jews ALWAYS using the we are the chosen people card, PLEASE do NOT tell me ya never heard THAT one. And time me ARSE, Israel was NOT a state until 1948, NOT before then, FACT!! Quite frankly the US has a lot to blame itself for about the illegal immigration thing itself, if the states are so stupid to give illegals free housing, and medical benefits they are to blame for many of them constantly arriving. But I do think that it is also employers who are looking to save a buck hiring them that ALSO causes problems, and states do not have the right to go rogue on their own and discriminate against people who *LOOK* like they are illegal, opening a big can of WHOOP ass worms with that one.

• Informer | Jun 03, 2010, 04:27 PM EDT

  FYI, all of you righteous people, among all the crap on top of Mavi, camouflage materials was found. I speculate it supposed to use for kid's toys. Or was it for Hamas terrorists? no way...

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 04:26 PM EDT

  and one other thing....where do you get the "chosen people" suggestion from? I never said anything remotely close to that. If you are referring to my "biblical times" quote, that was a reference of TIME...not scripture. read before you shoot back with knee jerk responses.

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 04:15 PM EDT

  And who in the hell are you to say Israel has no right to Jerusalem...the capitol of Israel? That is about as ignorant as saying the United States has no right to the District of Columbia. I suppose next you will say Arizona has no right to protect itself from illegal immigration?

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 04:11 PM EDT

  Israel is one of self defense. So the point I was making, is if Israel lays down their weapons, then all of those surrounding Arab nations will swoop in and destroy Israel. the fact you could not seem to grasp that notion, and immediately ran to the defense of the Arabs, SCREAMS to the high heavens that you are staunchly anti Israel. Denial. It ain't just a river in Egypt. (That is the country south of Israel BTW. Another Arab nation.) And as for the brick wall....I will help them spread the mortar.

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 04:11 PM EDT

  I know Shuvon. I was being ironical. I know a lot more about Irish history than you think. You obviously do not get the reference of laying down arms. Let me explain it so a child could understand....You see, if the Arabs were to lay down their arms, then Israel would have no reason to continue to keep theirs. Do you understand?

• shuvonn | Jun 03, 2010, 03:47 PM EDT

  Ulster IS being shared between the UK AND Ireland, 6 under British control, and 3 under Irish, that IS sharing. What about that is SO hard for YOU to understand? They took the 6 counties they could gerry mander the votes in to keep protestant majority in, simple. It is a FACT. Israel has NO More right to Jerusalem than Palestinians, why is ONE more entitled than the other? The chosen people excuse again? The self defense again? SAME Old excuses for rogue behavior. Perhaps Israel should have picked a nicer area to form their state in 1948? The old biblical claim ain't flying either. I am aware of the capital of Ireland. Expecting ONE side to give up their arms and NOT the other ? Kind of like the IRA were supposed to and the LOYALISTS didn't? It is pointless to debate with a brick wall, its like talking to the wall Israel is building or the one the US is threatening to build along the Mexican border.....

• CanadianPat | Jun 03, 2010, 03:43 PM EDT

  The Isreali Goverment know full well that the people and items on the Rachel Corrie are no treat to Isreal or her people , they are simply trying to make life in Gaza Hell for its people.If they intercept the ship and I am sure they will ,it will be for no just reason!May the world judge them for their villainy.

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 03:40 PM EDT

  OK irl....you are suggesting that Israel intentionally attack a U.S. ship? They committed an act of war against the U.S.? I seriously, seriously doubt it. It is just more fuel for your anti Israel lobby. Americans have killed Canadian and British troops on the battlefield with friendly fire. It was a mistake. you think the US military targeted and murdered those troops?... Well I forget who I am talking to, you probably do think that.

• AnderwRutheford | Jun 03, 2010, 03:27 PM EDT

  alphs22, you know squat. today, 03.06.10, qassam rocket fell south to Ashkelon, 30 miles from Gaza. don't you dare tell me that half-wits from hamas kindly stop rockets. And you can be sure that it was fired from a hospital, school or other public place so that if Israel attacks them, civilians will be dead. And hop, another brutal attack carried out by evil Israelies as it will be shown on news. I bet my life that everyone stood there clapping and cheering.

• irl32csc | Jun 03, 2010, 03:21 PM EDT

  U.S. diplomats, veterans and intelligence officials involved in the USS Liberty incident continue to dispute official findings, saying the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty was NOT A MISTAKE, and it remains the ONLY major maritime incident in U.S. history not investigated by the U.S. Congress.

• irl32csc | Jun 03, 2010, 03:12 PM EDT

  To irishwxman: Israel paid over $14 million in restitution for the attack on the USS Liberty because they were guilty of deliberate murder. The US and Israeli governments were quite content to sweep the matter under the rug to placate the US/Israeli lobby. After World War II, Germany paid restitution because they were guilty of the deliberate murder of six million Jews, not because they made a “mistake”.

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 02:52 PM EDT

  I have said this numerous times with the hopes that it will sink in with somebody. If the Arabs lay down their arms, there will be peace. If Israel lays down their arms, there will be no Israel. What a part of that are none of you getting? This country has been fighting to defend its own existence since biblical times. Its all they know.

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 02:50 PM EDT

  Really Ireland shares 6 counties with England? Wow silly me. Belfast is not the capital of Ireland. Dublin is. If England and Ireland both shared Dublin it would be very chaotic. If that doesn't sit well with you, then suppose Canada and the US shared D.C. as a capital? You can't seem to get it through your head that Jerusalem is the CAPITAL of Israel. They should not have to share it . What part of this small country having to defend itself consistently do you not understand?? It is surrounded by countries that want it decimated. off the map. Wiped out. Palestine being one of them. Of course the US is friends with Israel. nobody else seems to want to do it.

• shuvonn | Jun 03, 2010, 02:22 PM EDT

  Never called them terrorists, I did say they acted like a rogue state in this instance. Never said they got off on attacking the USS liberty, but it was a REALLY BIG ship, how do you screw that one up? It was in the best interest of BOTH countries to claim it was an accident, they are the best of friends ya know, US sends BILLIONS in Aid to Israel yearly. Liberal is the LEAST of what you have called me and denying that is simply childish and not factual. I see NOTHING positive in what Israel has done regarding this flotilla and I CALL IT LIKE I SEE IT TOO, apparently YOU think YOU are the only one who can do so. Ireland IS sharing 6 of the 9 counties of Ulster with England currently did you forget that or are you not familiar with Irish history? Israel has NO exclusive rights over Jerusalem, there are also important holy sites there to Palestinians, denying them the right while claiming ONLY your own rights is a typical heavy handed tactic. And one can be sympathetic to the plight of the Palestinians in Gaza while not being anti Israeli and ya still don't get that. Did you miss where I stated that I would like to see Palestinians stop sending rockets into Israel? Did ya miss where I said I would like to see Palestinian recognition of the state of Israel? Same as I would like to see Israeli recognition of the rights of Palestinians and the Israeli soldier who is in captivity in Gaza released.

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 01:51 PM EDT

  If you wouldn't have such a knee jerk reaction every time Israel takes a breath. You have consistently called them terrorists and murderers. You act like the got off on shooting people and attacking the USS Liberty. I tend to think it is a mistake when BOTH the US and Israeli govts conclude as such.

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 01:44 PM EDT

  how is calling you a liberal "name calling"? Are you not a liberal? there is nothing you have said to the contrary. That is not name calling. that is calling a spade a spade. And when an individual consistently bashes and tears apart Israel, chances are that individual doesn't like Israel. I constantly bash and tear apart Obama, because in a nut shell, I do not like Obama. I call em like I see em. You say something positive about Israel, and maybe people wont be so quick to call you anti Israel. And why would Israel "share" their capital? Would you like it if Ireland "shared" Dublin with England?

• shuvonn | Jun 03, 2010, 01:33 PM EDT

  Yes I am sure the families of the people who lost their lives in Israels *MISTAKE* felt REAL good about the money they got back. I don't buy it. It was a BIG enough ship, how COULD they have mistaken it ??? Maybe it was another MAP reading error? As for Al Gore, I said he agreed there was global warming but I was on the fence about it. You do not believe the UN, I do not believe Israel. And taking what YOU want out of the words and twisting them to suit your purpose as well as the name calling and categorizing someone is a typical tactic when one is in disagreement and had NOTHING credible or worthy to add to the discussion. As I keep repeating one can have sympathy towards the plight of the Palestinians and not be anti-Israeli, you appear not to understand that or not want to, but repeating your self will NOT change the truth of the facts here. Labeling someone anti-Israeli is much easier because you lack the ability from your moral high ground claiming Israelis have the right to protect themselves and NO one else does. They lost the war of public opinion on this one BIG time... As for Gaza? I sincerely hope they release the Israeli soldier, and they stop their rocket fire into Israel. I would like Israel to recognize a Palestinian state with a shared Jerusalem, and Palestinian recognition of Israel. And the safe passage of the Rachel Corrie ( remember that other US citizen murdered by an Israeli bulldozer?) into Gaza.

• ybr1ca11 | Jun 03, 2010, 01:02 PM EDT

  alphs22 bases his diatribe about misinformation on his statement "There hasn't been any missiles launched into Israel from Gaza in years". Well, look who's providing misinformation! There certainly have been rocket (and mortar) attacks from Gaza onto Israel's cities, in years, in fact, even this year! Here are just THIS YEAR's dates of Gazan attack on Israel: 2010: January 1 January 5 January 7 January 8 January 9 January 10 January 20 February 2 February 3 February 7 February 12 March 11 March 13 March 16 March 17 March 18 March 19 March 20 March 21 March 22 March 23 March 26 March 27 March 29 April 1 April 3 April 4 April 7 April 8 April 12 April 15 May 8 May 19 May 25 May 26 May 28 June 1 Of course, the real underlying motive for all this is the Arabs desire to take all of Israel's land, so any attack on Israel can be justified as "Israel took our land!" while any effort by Israel to defend herself is to be condemned.

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 01:01 PM EDT

  irl...what you fail to continue to report is; Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries into the incident, and issued reports, which concluded that the attack was a mistake, due to Israeli confusion about the identity of the USS Liberty. On May 1968, the Israeli government paid US$3,323,500 as full payment to the families of the 34 men killed in the attack. In March 1969, Israel paid a further $3,566,457 in compensation to the men who had been wounded. On 18 December 1980, it agreed to pay $6 million as settlement for the U.S. claim of $7,644,146 for material damage to the Liberty itself. (my source is the same as yours)

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 12:51 PM EDT

  your rants on Israel just continue to add fuel to the fire As I have mentioned before, you are staunchly anti-Israel. You holler and scream at us not to call you that, but every word out of your mouth when it comes to that country is negative. You are pro-Palestine and anti Israel. It is the liberal way. A Just admit it and embrace it.

• irl32csc | Jun 03, 2010, 12:51 PM EDT

  Remembering The USS Liberty Attack June 8, 1967 [History Repeating Itself] The USS Liberty incident was a deliberate attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter planes and motor torpedo boats, on June 8, 1967, during the Six-Day War. The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two Marines, and a civilian), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship. At the time, the ship was in international waters.

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 12:50 PM EDT

  Oh so if Al Gore said Gaza is worse than Ethiopia and Somalia we should all take his word? Al Gore is a lying sack of excrement who is only out to make money. I do not believe the UN on ANYTHING. They lied about Iraq with their food for oil scam, their global warming scam, their worthless sanctions on N. Korea and Iran. The UN is useless and should be expelled from NY.

• shuvonn | Jun 03, 2010, 12:46 PM EDT

  Al Gore has also said global warming is real, and the debate goes on and some evidence does certainly appear that there are some issues with the warming of the planet, I am unconvinced either way. So you do not believe the UN and I do not believe Israel. And by the same token Israel claiming they were only protecting themselves is not credible, the vessel was in International Waters. And if it was to inspect the cargo ONLY then why drop onto the ship in the middle of the night, in full gear with masks, it was in fact to take over the ship which it had no right to do since it was under Turkish jurisdiction. SO it was an attack on the sovereign nation of Turkey technically. Two sides to everything even if you refuse to see that or acknowledge it. Israel has the right to protect itself, and its citizens as does every other nation and a Turkish Vessel in INTERNATIONAL waters is actually under TURKISH jurisdiction, and what Israel supposedly is claiming that it attacked those aid workers to protect Israelis and yet the Turkish citizens or whatever other nationality did not have that same right? Is it ONLY Israelis that have rights and NO one else does? Are you in ANYWAY familiar with MARITIME LAW? While the ships have been searched and no weapons found US law now states *it is best practice for vessels to embark with a team of private security guards* and yet there were no armed individuals on any of those vessels. Not to mention it is LEGAL to protect yourself if attacked on your vessel in International waters. The Foreign Press association is saying the the IDF is NOW selectively using footage to bolster its claims they were attacked first, which is not the truth.

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 12:46 PM EDT

  Do you know why there have been no attacks from Hamas?? Because of the blockade. You honestly can sit there and say that as soon as Iran gets a nuke they wont sell it, (or even give it) to Hamas to use against Israel? For you to even compare the radical Islamic radical terror group Hamas to Israel is beyond ludicrous. Hamas are on par with Al Qaeda and the Taliban. Are you suggesting the Jews are on that same level?

• alphs22 | Jun 03, 2010, 12:24 PM EDT

  @irishwxman You can label Hamas a radical, fundamentalist group - because they are. But to suggest that the Israeli gov't isn't the same way is ludicrous. Israel has taken the offensive, and as I said earlier, is collectively punishing Palestinians for the actions of a few militant groups. Hamas hasn't launched any attacks in well over a year and instead has encouraged the smaller militant groups to do the same. Israel has been blocking Gaza and starving civilians. Strictly judging by their actions (and not what they say), Hamas has actually taken more strides towards peace in the last 1-2 years compared to the Israeli gov't.

• alphs22 | Jun 03, 2010, 12:16 PM EDT

  @AnderwRutheford I meant to say by Hamas, who stopped their rocket attacks over a year ago and has called for other rogue militants to stop launching their own rockets. I don't see how that nullifies my whole post - but coming from a guy who has little to contribute and can't even spell his own name, it's understandable I suppose.

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 11:43 AM EDT

  Shuvon, the UN has also said global warming is real....look where that got them. The UN is not credible. Sorry.

• shuvonn | Jun 03, 2010, 11:35 AM EDT

  MCNabb: Enlighten us so as to the intentions of the peace activists? Imagine the gall of them responding to a humanitarian crisis to deliver cement, medical supplies, and school supplies through an ILLEGAL blockade ( not formally recognized by ANY country) There were NO weapons found, I repeat NO weapons found. That speaks louder than YOUR version of the intentions of the humanitarian aid workers on that Turkish ship.

• shuvonn | Jun 03, 2010, 11:31 AM EDT

  Informer: ALL of the vessels were searched and none were found to be carrying weapons. You forget the ships were in International waters, and while Israel has the right to protect itself and its citizens you appear not to want to extend that right to any other nationality especially the ones that were murdered on that Turkish vessel. Don't EVEN try to tell me that ship had ANY ties to terrorism, Turkey is the ONLY ally Israel had in the ME. And as for YOU SouthernPride, why should Israel have the right to protect it's citizens and other countries not be afforded the same rights? Lets get something STRAIGHT here, NO ONE objected to the ships being searched, NO ONE. The manner in which Israel handled this was so heavy handed, illegal in international waters and has resulted in the death of anywhere from 9 to 10 people, the full nationalities of whom have not yet been released and that was NOT necessary. And having sympathy to the plight of the people in Gaza over one million of which are refugees, and have NO passports, and have no way to rebuild their homes let alone their economy does not make one hostile towards Israel. The UN has repeatedly stated that there IS a humanitarian aid crisis there. Did you not even see the numbers of what looked like hasidic jews taking part in the world wide protests?

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 11:31 AM EDT

  "What's the big deal of insisting it go straight to Gaza?" he asked. "Well, it's legitimate for Israel to say, 'I don't know what's on that ship. These guys are dropping eight -- 3,000 rockets on my people,"' he said, referring to Hamas, the Islamist movement which rejects interim peace terms with Israel and has regularly fired rockets into the Jewish state.

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 11:30 AM EDT

  From king liberal loon and VP of the US (also an Irishman): "Israel has an absolute right to deal with its security interest," Biden said in an interview on PBS's "Charlie Rose" show, while reiterating the Obama administration's support for a transparent, impartial investigation of what happened. "They (Israel) have said, 'Here you go. You're in the Mediterranean. This ship -- if you divert slightly north you can unload it and we'll get the stuff into Gaza." So what's the big deal here?" Biden said.

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 11:27 AM EDT

  MisterCope I'm sure if it says anything it says Anti-Israel Central. never in my life have I seen so many anti Israel people in my life. you read about it in history books, but you never thought you would really ever see it. Especially from Irish.

• AnderwRutheford | Jun 03, 2010, 11:27 AM EDT

  alphs22 - I stoped reading after you wrote "There hasn't been any missiles launched into Israel from Gaza in years". Haa... If only you followed my advice and went to learn history, or at least some current affairs, you wouldn'tbe writing such nonsense. Click the value "Sderot", on Wiki, would you lad?

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 11:21 AM EDT

  McNabb I hear you loud and clear. They relish in the liberal weakness. Appeasers and "peace at any price" wieners.

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 11:20 AM EDT

  alphs22...again...for the umpteenth time...elections have consequences. Hamas is a radical Islamic terror group sworn to destroy Israel at any cost. Sure they may have been elected, so what does that tell you about the people who elected them. There is an old phrase I'm sure you have heard. If the Arabs lay down their arms, there will be peace. If the Israelis lay down their arms, there will be no Israel.

• MisterCope | Jun 03, 2010, 11:09 AM EDT

  I had left a comment concerning Israels behavior and proof of their deception, but someone on this site does not want that information out. Thanks guys for letting Freedom Of Speech die right here on your site. I had to check the logo at the top and make sure it did'nt read Israel Central.

• McNabb1966 | Jun 03, 2010, 10:59 AM EDT

  The Iranians must smile everytime they think about how usefully gullible European and American Leftists really are. Everytime the Left repeats the lies regarding the condition of Gaza or the true intentions of the "peace activists" on those ships, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad smiles.

• alphs22 | Jun 03, 2010, 10:57 AM EDT

  There seems to be a lot of misinformation here, especially from the Israel apologists. And no, I'm not Muslim or have any connections to Palestinians. There hasn't been any missiles launched into Israel from Gaza in years. The current blockade of Gaza started after Palestinians voted Hamas to power in a FREE ELECTION. Israel, the supposed model democracy in the Middle East, didn't like the way Palestinians exercised their right to vote, and responded by attempting to starve them instead. This is why you have aid flotillas coming in from out of the country. There's a humanitarian crisis in Gaza that the Israeli gov't has been able to cover up. Israel has been taken over by fundamentalists in the few years, and most moderate Jews can't even associate themselves with the Israeli gov't anymore. They've instilled a sense of urgency in the minds of Israelis in order to rile up support for their actions - no different than the strategy that Bush used to collect support for the Iraq war. "The efficiency of the truly national leader consists primarily in preventing the division of the attention of a people, and always in concentrating it on a single enemy." Sounds familiar to Israel's stance? That quote came out of Hitler's mouth. With the public support, Israel's current gov't has been able to collectively punish Palestinians for the actions of a small group of militants. That should not be tolerable. So props to the Irish gov't for having balls and standing up to Israel. You have this Canadian's support.

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 10:34 AM EDT

  Andrew, your words are falling on deaf ears. most here seem to think that only true Irishmen are pro Palestine and anti Israel. But don't dare call them that least you get a right scolding!!

• AnderwRutheford | Jun 03, 2010, 10:26 AM EDT

  Are most of the repliers here are muslim? otherwise there's no excuse for the blind loathing of Israel, the ignorance and stupidity that I see here. Go learn some history for god's sake, no one here seems to know nothing about the middle east, about what realy goes on behind Arab propaganda.

• irishwxman | Jun 03, 2010, 09:50 AM EDT

  well I'll be....VP Joe Biden quoted as saying Israel has a right to intercept. "Vice president says Israel has a right to know whether arms are being smuggled in to Hamas-controlled Gaza" Oh Day-yam!!

• seanomelbourne | Jun 03, 2010, 09:28 AM EDT

  Informer! yadyaa yadyaa boring bleeding heart ignorance.

• Informer | Jun 03, 2010, 08:43 AM EDT

  Wake up peole, try to see beyond the tip of your nose: Israel did nothing but protecting it's people! If Dublin was attacked by mortars and rockets every single day, Ireland too would like to know what's on board of a flotila that arrives to the enemy, whouldn't it?

• Southernpride | Jun 03, 2010, 07:10 AM EDT

  Well done Israel army in protecting your people

• seanomelbourne | Jun 02, 2010, 11:34 PM EDT

  shuvonn; as Grey said "your wasting your sweetness on the desert air" it's very frustrating to read such rubbish from wxman and his ilk no common sense prevails, you are correct "the repetitious rhetoric"(excuse my English) only proves there inability to communicate rationally.

• shuvonn | Jun 02, 2010, 10:59 PM EDT

  Once you make a peep that is critical of Israel you are a called and labeled a terrorist supporter or anti-semitic. Repeating it does not make it so, nor is it truthful. And let me get this straight luckyue, Israel has the right to protect its citizens and Ireland does not have the same right? FYI no weapons were found on any of the vessels, facts are SO inconvenient....

• shuvonn | Jun 02, 2010, 10:57 PM EDT

  the sad part is that some people do not realize that repeating something over and over does not make it fact AND someone who is sympathetic to the Plight of the Palestinians in Gaza is not a terrorist supporter, some people seem to be unable to tell the difference....but labeling and name calling is typical really. And let me get this straight luckyue Israel has the right to protect it's citizens by ANY means, ANY time and ANY where but Ireland does not have the same right? That IS what you just said......And do check some facts NOT ONE vessel has been proven to hold ANY weapons, NOT one, oh sorry apparently one had some night vision goggles and some bullet proof vests, pity some of the poor innocents who lost their lives were not wearing any of them...

• shuvonn | Jun 02, 2010, 10:52 PM EDT

  oldbear: The attack on the flotilla took place in International waters, it was NEVER going to Israel at all, it was headed to Gaza. And yes, Israel does have the right to protect it's borders, I knew they liked to grab land and build settlements on them but when did the Israeli border move into International waters? Perhaps them masks covering their faces while attacking the ships put them IDF members wrong and made them read the maps wrong? that happend in ROI all the time, none of them SAS chaps could read a map at all at all....

• shuvonn | Jun 02, 2010, 10:48 PM EDT

  Willieboy: The cargo has been unloaded and is being transported through the Rafa Crossing, and NO weapons have been found. Israel also LIED about Gaza refusing the aid, what they DID say was as soon as all of the activists were released and safely home they would accept the aid but NOT until then. FYI you can't just go blowing a vessel registered to your only ally in the Middle East out of the water, unless you are a Somali Pirate OR the IDF it appears.

• oldbear | Jun 02, 2010, 10:39 PM EDT

  Prayers for those of the flotilla with humanitarian aid. Must understand the position of the State of Israel. Nothing to be used for armaments. Beware of "guidance" from possible members of Hamas, Hesbollah and al-quaida. Violence or no they will gain Arab attention toward hated Jewry. Israiel has rights to guard its borders and integrity as is any cournty in the world

• eirenan | Jun 02, 2010, 10:21 PM EDT

  smell the fear...megaphone out in force on this site

• luckyue | Jun 02, 2010, 10:03 PM EDT

  PM Cowen, just what "serious consequences" could you possibly have in mind. Very laughable to say the least..Israel has every right to do what they did. What if it was another country trying to come into Irish waters, not knowing who or what was on the ships. Ireland, get your own 'problems' together first...ps...I'm Irish....

• FastEddy | Jun 02, 2010, 08:29 PM EDT

  Morons ...

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 08:20 PM EDT

  and I would take everything melbourne says with a grain of salt. He is pro hamas.

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 08:14 PM EDT

  allyounnedisL you are proof that all Irish are not educated at all in the world of politics. If you were, then you were lead down the wrong path. The type of politics you embrace is failing all over the world.

• PHPEARSE | Jun 02, 2010, 08:09 PM EDT

  madeleine: "if they don't want you in there then stay out, could a ship jus tcome sialing into your port without permission" Madeleine, you really don't know much about this, do you? The folks on the ships had no desire to sail into any port in Israel, they were KIDNAPPED and brought to Israeli ports against their will!

• seanomelbourne | Jun 02, 2010, 08:03 PM EDT

  alluneedisL: Your a breath of fresh air on this site, but if you want an honest reply here sadly you will fail. most remarks negative towards Israel are censored on this site. yet the pro zionist can use foul or misleading arguments to bolster their case, you only have to read some of the below diatribe. by the way they are not all Irish people some are bleeding heart American wannabees.

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 07:56 PM EDT

  Do you live in Gaza? Do you have family there? how the hell do you know what goes on there? i will bet you a million dollars that you don't.

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 07:55 PM EDT

  again with your references to the UN. Why? They are not the end all be all of world law! If it were up to me I would remove them from US soil and remove the US from membership. They are all corrupt as you can get.

• alluneedisL | Jun 02, 2010, 07:46 PM EDT

  What Isreal has done is illegal and I am surprised to see so many people supporting this terrorist regime. I'm also assuming the moderator is biased here since my previous comments weren't posted. I've never seen so much anger all over the net with Isreal except here of course. The Holocaust of the Palestinian people must be stopped! They need more than aid. Those of you that support Zionism need to wake up to who the real terrorists are. I'm really surprised, I assumed the Irish were much more educated in politics than I thought.

• willieboy | Jun 02, 2010, 07:43 PM EDT

  UNLESS THEY ARE COMPLETELY STUPID THEY SHOULD HEED THE WARNING AND SUBMIT TO SEARCH. THAT IS, UNLESS THEY ARE CARRYING CONTRABAND IN WHICH CASE THEY SHOULD BE BLOWN OUT OF THE WATER. I DON'T VARE WHO THEY ARE...

• seanomelbourne | Jun 02, 2010, 07:21 PM EDT

  MAD-eline your crazy verbal diarrhea makes no sense other than an ethnic bias of Muslims and their religion.There's none so blind as the racist hiding behind a glass wall.

• shuvonn | Jun 02, 2010, 06:59 PM EDT

  The blockade is not internationally recognized, or does the rest of the world not count from your armchair? The UN does not recognize the illegal blockade of Gaza. Israel was AWFULLY easily provoked when they attacked the ship in INTERNATIONAL waters. You cannot speak for the *Intention* of the people on the Flotilla including any member you accuse of being a terrorist without proof, you DO so like to throw stuff out there without backing it up with facts, they are SO inconvenient when you are supporting a rogue state. You can call an Irish Nobel Peace Prize winner a terrorist all you like that will NEVER make it a fact. You have NO idea about Gaza if you say it is not in need of aid, the UN Human Rights council in Gaza says otherwise and I believe THEM over YOU. Apparently Israel blows up UN compounds and schools and blocks CONCRETE being imported into Gaza???

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 06:15 PM EDT

  As I have said before: 1) Israel had every right to enact a blockade of Gaza. 2) Israel provides tons of aid to the people of Gaza 3) The Palestinian flotilla was designed not to provide needed aid to the people in the Gaza strip, but to provoke Israel into action.

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 06:02 PM EDT

  shuvon for the millionth time....Gaza is not in dire need of aid. Israel provides aid to Gaza on a regular basis. There is nobody starving there. This is only to provoke and create tension. You keep screaming humanitarian aid humanitarian aid...blah blah blah. They receive medical aid and food and whatever else they need from Israel. You don't hear of people starving to death every day in Gaza like they do in Ethiopia.

• shuvonn | Jun 02, 2010, 05:40 PM EDT

  Calling them terrorists does not justify the actions of the IDF, nor does it prove they were. They were not IN any port Madeleine, they were in International waters or do facts bother you ? The old protection thing is getting old, I didn't see a threat from Ireland regarding any harm coming to the Rachel Corrie, I saw a civil request for Irish citizens ( NOT TERRORISTS) to be allowed to leave HUMANITARIAN aid to Gaza and for the safety of the Irish citizens on board, DO pay attention. You need to check your eyesight if you see Ireland ever accepting Sharia Law, having sympathy for the plight of the Palestinians in Gaza does not make you anti Israeli, how much YOU getting paid to spew this garbage MADELEINE?

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 05:28 PM EDT

  brilliant points Madeleine.

• shuvonn | Jun 02, 2010, 05:15 PM EDT

  That's funny, NO WHERE did I say that you cannot be Irish and pro-Israeli, the Irish government seem to think so. Incessantly repeating it does not make it so. Full diplomatic relations that Ireland with Israel proves it. And having sympathy for the plight of Palestinians does not mean you are anti-Israeli. The back pedaling and lies from Israel that is now taking place is only a lame attempt to justify the murder of unarmed ( the IDF has stated that NO arms were found on ANY the ships) I have never danced on the grave of anyone, not an Israeli citizen that has been killed in a shell attack from Gaza or the ten times more Palestinians that have been murdered by the IDF, not even the American Rachel Corrie who died trying to save a Palestian home from a bulldozer. Not a roman catholic painting a house in NI that was shot in the back by the British Army. The WAYYYY over board was when Israel screwed up diplomatic relations with their only friend in the region by murdering Turkish citizens, and you rejoice and call them terrorists to justify it, and you accuse ME of dancing on graves? Just remember that the one pointing the finger has plenty pointing back at YOURSELF and your hypocritical defense of a rogue state. You can call it how you like it all you like but your back pedaling is creating quite a breeze just like the hypocrisy coming from the Israeli government now.

• Madeleine | Jun 02, 2010, 05:08 PM EDT

  Why would you threaten Israel if harm came ot the Rachel corrie? if they don't want tyou in there then stay out, could a ship jus tcome sialing into your port without permission? You are constantly finding fault with countries who won't jus tthrow open its doors to any one who comes down the pike yet you don't do it. These are terrorists trying to destroy Israel, of course they will fight. When you are forced to kneel on a prayer rug remember what I said, maybe you should start fighting back before there is not one trace of Ireland left and you are forced to accept Sharia law. I see which way the wind blows for you and it's not in the direction of free countries.

• Madeleine | Jun 02, 2010, 05:04 PM EDT

  This Flotilla had a ship load of HAMAS sypathizers on it, they bring in weapons to the HAMAS in Gaza. Gaza has access to everything they need, no humanitarian efforts are necessary. Israel has every right to defend its country and its waters, from everyone . The videos I saw showed Israelis troops being attacked and shot, now this same group said they are going back again, why?

• IrishAndProud | Jun 02, 2010, 03:33 PM EDT

  Oh, and remember, irishwxman...you cannot be truly Irish and pro-Israel, both at once (according to some). I've little doubt that at least one, possibly two such people will respond to this post and thereby expose themselves, but I thought you should be 'warned' again.

• IrishAndProud | Jun 02, 2010, 03:13 PM EDT

  Further, not only have we learned that the boat had night vision goggles and bullet-proof vests on board (and that the Israelis were attacked FIRST after boarding, with various weapons...after DAYS of warning the boats away), but now it's come out that the Israelis were actually FIRED upon, with live ammunition. With each and every passing day (each passing HOUR, it seems), siding with these boats becomes more and more indefensible, even as all the Israel-bashing becomes more and more crazy -- like nutty, frenzied piranhas, after smelling blood. It's all quite telling. When you step UP your attacks on Israel the more your case falls apart, you've exposed yourself as a typical Israel-loather who's just happily dancing on the graves of the dead in order to attack it more...and who's gone waaaaaay overboard with it and doesn't know when to stop. The hatred of Israel was already there, just looking for a so-called 'excuse' -- and when you think you had one, here...it...came, roaring out like a frothy, rabid dog. And that's a shame. I know such frank talk won't win me any points in the clique-ish, trendy, I-hate-Israel crowd, but I'm not looking for points with such a bunch. I'm just calling it like it is. Dont' like it? Tough bounce.

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 03:02 PM EDT

  it is I who should do a little research? Hello pot, I'm kettle. I think it is YOU that should do a bit of research. You had such a knee jerk reaction. Get a clue is spot on. None of us really know what exactly happened...but I am willing to give the Israelis the benefit of the doubt considering they are fighting a government sworn to eliminate them and one that lobs rockets across the border on a daily basis, unlike the rest of ye who are so willing to pull the trigger and blame Israel for everything under the sun. Why else do you think people call you terrorist sympathizers??

• IrishAndProud | Jun 02, 2010, 02:58 PM EDT

  Irishwxmn has it dead-on right. There is NO comparison between Israel, and the Brits occupying Ireland. The Brits were a foreign army, occupying foreign land and oppressing the native people. The Israelis are living on their own ancient land and much of the world (oh, so typically) are siding with the Arabs who merely filled the void during the centuries the Jews were away (after they were scattered off their land by European colonialists (aka Romans). If anything, siding against the Jews on their own ancient land is like siding WITH the Brits and Protestants, as they try to liquidate the Native Irish. Oh...and the Brits never had it as their goal to KILL every single last native Irish -- as the radical Islamists do with Israel and the Jews (just read the REPEATED statements of the Iranian leader, and the openly-and-often-stated goal of Hamas, to this day). Israel lives with open threats to its existence EVERY...SINGE..DAY, whether by rocket attack and/or suicide bomber -- and now the verbally, REPEATEDLY-stated goal of NUCLEAR liquidation, as well. NO comparison, between the Brits in Ireland, and the Jews in Jerusalem and Israel. Jewish artifacts, with Hebrew writing, are found on that land, to this day. It's ISRAELI land. They've been there since way, WAY before Ireland was even developed.

• GETaCLUE | Jun 02, 2010, 02:55 PM EDT

  It is so amazing to me, the number of people that buy into the B.S. that mainstream media continues to spew. So many think they 'know' the truth, when the information they receive is their local news media and a few tidbits here and there that is slipped in between reality shows. The 'entire' world(with the exception of israel and the good ol' U.S), know the truth. They actually spend time looking into the facts, and cross reference their findings in order to connect the dots. The long ago disproved rant of israel fighting to protect itself, is so far removed, that it's equated to discussing a flat earth. Please people, learn to dig deeper for the facts or go back to your reality TV, and let the grown-up's discuss what's going on. No wonder America(and the rest of the world), are in the shape it's in. Look how many people still believe America's a democracy.....Get a clue....

• shuvonn | Jun 02, 2010, 02:55 PM EDT

  I think WX man will have to do a little research into facts. Dropping from helicopters in the middle of the night, onto the deck of a Turkish vessel ( Israels ONLY ally in the region) in black camouflage gear with masks on is not an attack? I think IF I was on that boat I would have felt like I was being attacked. The number of dead speaks of heavy handed the tactics used by the IDF was, please do not even try to tell me they were unarmed, they used tear gas, they used stun guns and that was while they were shooting indiscriminately. Funny how you want to turn Turkey into the bad guy now that IDF has murdered some of their citizens. Israel cut off cell phone access, internet access and the live video feed while they attacked the boat and are now refusing an independent inquiry. I am glad I am not reading YOUR supposed reporting EmeraldEYes, I think it would be a little too biased for me.

• AgapeNY | Jun 02, 2010, 02:53 PM EDT

  Why are all the hasbara minions logging on to this site? The world has changed and Israel should wake up. Do you not realize that people look at Gaza and are reminded of the Warsaw Ghetto? Oh wad some power the giftie gie us To see oursel’s as others see us!

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 02:51 PM EDT

  And I'm sure your Jewish friends are most likely rabid Obama supporters too.

• AntiZionism | Jun 02, 2010, 02:50 PM EDT

  irishwxman hi shill wassup? are you using megaphone or other software of the kind? If iran wants to kill all the jews why dont they start with their jew community living peacefully in Iran? You are a nice shill , but you must spread your propaganda better.

• alluneedisL | Jun 02, 2010, 02:41 PM EDT

  Those were international waters so this was illegal but that doesn't seem to stop Isreal, look at the new holocaust they have created in Palestine. Shame on anybody here that is protecting this terrorist regime! I've had just enough of you paranoid freaks that seem to think that every Middle Eastern person is ready to destroy anybody that doesn't believe in freakin' Allah! You brainwashed, paranoid and sick morons! You are a bunch of ignorant racists! I have jewish friends that don't agree with the Zionist regime at all! Understand who the enemy is to jews and everybody you dolts, Zionisim!

• Ernesider | Jun 02, 2010, 02:29 PM EDT

  ... too bad some of the US Navy's warships patrolling the area couldn't take the initiative or be ordered by the Foreign Secretary to accompany these humanitarians. Frightening the views some fellow readers make. They must not have learned our history very well.

• jflanagan | Jun 02, 2010, 02:17 PM EDT

  All the ship's Captain needs to do is report to the Isaeli port so they can ensure there are no weapons or contraband and send it on to the Palestinians. That is all the Turkish ships needed to do and there wouldn't have been any violence. The Irish here seem to be in harmony with the Islamists who are out to destroy Israel.

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 01:56 PM EDT

  xwagner...How in the world and in good conscience can you even compare British occupation of Ireland with Israel fighting for its very life for pretty much its entire existence? It is surrounded by countries that want to wipe it off of the map, and you compare it to British occupation? Where do you get your gall? Israel has a right to protect and defend itself. Especially with a country developing nukes who want to annihilate every living Jew. To me you have it backwards.

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 01:54 PM EDT

  Hey Geo...you sound frighteningly like a conspiracy theorist. Let me guess, you think the Govt was responsible for 9/11? You think there are little black helicopters flying around? I am assuming you think that the Jews are piloting the helicopters? Spying on all of us?

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 01:51 PM EDT

  Hey Geo...if you hurry you might make the next Nazi rally. JFK was not murdered by Jews you dolt. He was murdered by a communist sympathizer who was trying to get into the good graces of the soviet union. Enjoy reading your copy of Mien Kompf

• stevorh | Jun 02, 2010, 01:50 PM EDT

  In reading geo1671's comments, I'm glad (as a US citizen) to see that there's writings about the US government covert actions. Yes, the doings of Israel are questionable. It's hard to know who is posing as whom when these atrocities are done but with the record of Israel (RE their attacking the USS Liberty) seems to be to get the USA to do their heaviest fighting while they love to scream, "anti-semitism" whenever somebody says anything bad about them.

• Searlit | Jun 02, 2010, 01:10 PM EDT

  If you can't even allow yourself to think there can be peace then you are choosing negativity. Let the humanitarian aid be delivered.

• xwagner | Jun 02, 2010, 01:08 PM EDT

  I've never seen so much spin on the web about any subject before. What is unclear about INTERNATIONAL WATERS to any of the pro-Israeli shills posting here? And this is an IRISH web site?!?! May I assume that all the pro-Israel posters are also pro-British-occupation? Do you understand?

• geo1671 | Jun 02, 2010, 01:02 PM EDT

  I'm really concerned about the many Pro-}sreal posters on this Irish site. If they are Irish blood related--shame on you.Haven't you learned yet--two religions fighting themselves never brings peace. To IrishWaxmann--I got bad news for you schmuck.No shame knowing that Irishman JFK was assissinated by the zionist Jews Because he wouldn't allow them to have nukes. You are welcome to contact me at Gada.2004@3web.com--and it's George in Toronto Question : Evidence shows that Israel Firster pulled off the Sept 11 2001 and the 711 London Bombings. Both days Zionist Netanyahu was present to watch the both Carnages. WTC 1 2 6 and 7 came down crashing each in 9 seconds or less and into dust. Only morans could beLIEve the Jews that Arabs did it. Last week S.A. produced written agreement between Israel to install and purchase nukes. After the desolvement of S.A..Out of 10 nukes, one was test and 6 sent to USA. # nukes never made it to USA,what did arrive in the 3 -45 foot steel container--loaded with cement blocks. Who got the contract to ship them out of S.A.---try Israel. Again, USA kept it from the public. NowWaxmann--feel nice and warm towards the Jews Cult Org :^/ After they finish with the Muslims,we are next u-fool!

• Emeraldeyes | Jun 02, 2010, 12:57 PM EDT

  There is plenty of food and supplies in Gaza and I know this from a reporter who lives there, all courtesy of Israel I might add. These 'do gooders' should keep their noses out of middle east affairs. They have no idea what they are dealing with.

• acemaker | Jun 02, 2010, 12:56 PM EDT

  Perhaps Mel Gibson was correct when, in his drunken rant, said Jews were reponsible for most wars and turmoil in the world.

• Informer | Jun 02, 2010, 12:33 PM EDT

  The most annoying thing here is the Irish hypocrisy - where was Mairead Maguire when 10 kasam or whatever rockets where fired every day for like 8 years at Israeli cities?! Or when hamas who was stupidly elected murdered and executed it's opponents?! Do me a favor, Maguire...

• catmann | Jun 02, 2010, 12:27 PM EDT

  HOPE THEY SINK IT.

• catmann | Jun 02, 2010, 12:25 PM EDT

  NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WINNER"ANOTHER NAME FOR TRAITOR" ACTUALLY IN AMERICA IT'S COMMIE TRAITOR.

• Scrivner | Jun 02, 2010, 12:16 PM EDT

  Be careful when the IDF is on the water...remember the USS Liberty.

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 11:32 AM EDT

  lol at Getlin2. Good point.

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 11:29 AM EDT

  1 Israel had every right to enact a blockade of Gaza. 2 Israel provides tons of aid to the people of Gaza 3 The Palestinian flotilla was designed not to provide needed aid to the people in the Gaza strip, but to provoke Israel into action.

• Getlin2 | Jun 02, 2010, 11:27 AM EDT

  I find it very interesting that there is an "Irish Free Gaza Movement" and yet thye Brits still rule Northern Ireland.

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 11:25 AM EDT

  what everyone seems to fail to mention is that there were 6 boats that day. 5 of them were allowed to pass. This boat threatened to ram the blockade. IN Iraq, what do you think happens to a person who tries to rush through a road block? You guessed it, they shoot. Doesn't matter if he has a car full of blankets and teddies.

• killowen | Jun 02, 2010, 11:24 AM EDT

  The Jews have the peoples of their planet scared out of their gourds - the Big preaching Kihuna comes out with the rubbish their surround sound jailors have them spew to us. Dealing with a tribe who rightly can claim being special, having given us, a God named Jesus is nothing to be sneered at. It'll be kissy kissy time soon again - and the dance will go on. It be written.

• rgspopsrgspops | Jun 02, 2010, 11:19 AM EDT

  Just look at who is BACKING the people in Gaza and the rest of the folks that want to wipe Israel of the map.

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 11:14 AM EDT

  Oh, so now they ATTACKED the boat. The story keeps on changing. See, from the video I've seen and the news I have heard, this boat, filled with Turkish activists threatened to ram though the LEGAL blockade, so Israeli troops boarded the ship and THEY were attacked, and in order to defend themselves 9 people were killed. I just love how you think you have a handle on the Israeli government. I guess if anyone wants the facts they just need to go to Shuvon. give me a break.

• shuvonn | Jun 02, 2010, 11:07 AM EDT

  How is attacking a boat full of humanitarian aid for Gaza in the middle of INTERNATIONAL WATERS which has been PROVEN not to have NOT had ANY weapons on board keeping Israel safe? Keep out of International waters, problem solved, why act like Somali Pirates ? And Jason calling them terrorists dehumanizes them like they do with Palestinians in Gaza, so they don't care how many of them are killed, limiting the aid helps to control them, they are worthless to Israel, and do not count, ONLY the lives of Israeli citizens count did you not know that?

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 11:06 AM EDT

  SO according to you, the "European peace activists" were shot dead in cold blooded murder? So you are saying that Israel are a bunch of calculating killers? These are trained soldiers who have been fighting their entire existence with Muslim countries sworn to destroy them, but now they are murderers. THINK! THINK before you jump to conclusions. You read what you want to read and hear what you want to hear as long as it fits your ideology. Right now it is hip for liberals to hate Israel. That is what is going on right now.

• RiverAveGuy | Jun 02, 2010, 10:58 AM EDT

  Hope Israel sinks the terrorist boat !!!

• JasonQuinn | Jun 02, 2010, 10:57 AM EDT

  So every Israeli action is absolute & justified as long as it "keeps them safe" and no other explanation required? It doesn't matter that European peace activists (presumably, you wouldn't call them terrorists) are shot cold dead, its grand, its fine, because it "keeps Israel safe". What enlightened thinking you have.

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 10:47 AM EDT

  any other excuses you want to throw out there for Hamas Quinn? How about the Taliban? Al Qaeda? You seem to have an answer for everything, I figure you may want to rush and defend them as well?

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 10:44 AM EDT

  Hey Shuvon, I'm guessing that the US blockade against Cuba in the 1960's was illegal as well? God forbid a county try to keep itself safe.

• JasonQuinn | Jun 02, 2010, 10:41 AM EDT

  pipes, knives & clubs. Are you for real? Its an aid boat not the queen mary II, old disused pipes are allowed to be lying about the place!

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 10:36 AM EDT

  before even learning facts about this whole ordeal you all immediately jump on the "bash Israel" band wagon. Bill O'Reilly had a wonderful talking points memo about it last night. How long before Irish Central sets their heat seeking missiles at him or Shuvon claims he is not really Irish since he is siding against the Irish government.

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 10:33 AM EDT

  teddies and blankets. You forgot the lead pipes and knives and clubs they used to beat the Israeli troops. And if you actually got off of the huffington post or whatever liberal moonbat website you frequent, you would see that new information has surfaced that 50 (YES 50!) of the activists had ties to terrorist organization.

• JasonQuinn | Jun 02, 2010, 10:27 AM EDT

  @irishwxman Yet again, the fact that you can't distinguish between anti-israeli (for which I am) and anti-jewish (for which I am not, I couldn't care less if my mother was jewish) means that your arguments are credulous. How is blocking a boat of teddies and blankets keeping Israel safe? "50 of the activists had terrorist ties", not 49?, not 51?, what a lovely even number, who came up with these figures? Israel, you faux news fool!

• shuvonn | Jun 02, 2010, 10:27 AM EDT

  it's delusional to think that one can love everything about their country, I have plenty to say critical about Ireland yet that does not mean I hate it or bear any ill will towards it. Yet once one is the slightest bit critical about Israel or its actions the anti-semitic arguments come out. Ireland is and has been a friend to Israel, has full diplomatic relations with yet but do not want to see their citizens harmed while on a humanitarian aid mission to Gaza. The LIES that are now coming out about so called terrorists ties are TYPICAL of Israel that again has shown itself in a bad light. Israel is SCRAMBLING to come up with PATHETIC LIES IN THE FACE OF WORLD CONDEMNATION. NOT ONE weapon was found on board those ships as per IDF. The country would have been better kept safe had they left those ships alone and not acted as bad as somali pirates and committed piracy in international waters. They could easily have searched them when they arrived in Gaza. Their ONLY ally in the region searched those BEFORE they left Turkey. The blockade of Gaza is NOT internationally recognized, so what the IDF did was ILLEGAL and murderous to say the least, you can make all the excuses you want to, they screwed this one up BIG time. Another cache of supposed weapons of mass destruction that NEVER was. Why did they shut down communications on those ships? Why cut off the video feed? Why are they NOT going to allow an impartial investigation? Those are NOT the actions of an innocent country.

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 10:12 AM EDT

  cry me a river Jason. Oh the poor poor Gaza people. boo hoo. It has just been shown on the news that 50 of the activists on the flotilla had terrorist ties. You are so worried about the poor poor hamas that you forget that a country sits in the middle of a region that has sworn to destroy it. Do I think you are anti-Israel? You bet. This site has done nothing but bash the country since it did what it had to do to keep the country safe.

• tomgallagher | Jun 02, 2010, 10:08 AM EDT

  I'm sure that the Israeli navy is capable of stopping a ship, searching it for arms and after finding none letting it proceed. I just don't understand.

• JasonQuinn | Jun 02, 2010, 10:05 AM EDT

  @irishwxman. Saying that people are anti-jewish because they critisise israel is as stupid as saying that people who critisised the resistance forces in east timor were anti-catholic or that people who critisize loyalist paramilataries in northern ireland are anti-protestant or people who critisise the ..... Your analogy is profoundly ridiculous and you must only use it to convince yourself that what is going on in Gaza is somehow humane and moral, for it is far far far from it. If Anit-Israel'ists were anti-jewish how come there is never anything said about irish jews, british jews, french jews, yemeni jews, omani jews, russian jews, american jews, ethiopian jews, ...... I could continue all day long!

• irishwxman | Jun 02, 2010, 09:39 AM EDT

  They really need to rename this website from Irish central to we hate Israel. Never in my life have I seen the swarm of anti Jewish liberal moonbats come out in force. Terrorist sympathizers the lot of you. A country does the LEGAL measures to prevent arms from reaching the radical terror group Hamas in Gaza and Palestine, and everybody's true anti-Israel colours begin to shine. So so sad.

• JasonQuinn | Jun 02, 2010, 09:20 AM EDT

  Good luck to Rachel Corrie and crew. If Israel cant even allow a few nappies and blankets into gaza, then what hope is there?

• CitizenWhy | Jun 02, 2010, 08:14 AM EDT

  It's refreshing to see a head of government talk plainly in this matter, unlike the US. In blocking humanitarian aid Israel indeed "does not have leg to stand on." The israeli strategy of severely limiting food and medical supplies to Gaza in order to render the Gaza population hostile to Hamas is wrong headed and any such tactic should be condemned in general as a crime against international law. It is most unfortunate that the odious Hamas profits from controlling social and human services in Gaza but that is no excuse to deny a people what they need. Israel must cease to make itself look foolish and odious. Leave that to Hamas.

• shuvonn | Jun 02, 2010, 07:33 AM EDT

  The Israeli governments words MEAN NOTHING. They suggest they do NOT want confrontation and we shall have to wait and see, they do not tend to keep to their agreements, they have not done so in the ILLEGAL blockade of Gaza and no weapons were found on board ANY ship that was taken by piracy illegally in international waters by the IDF. Protecting themselves is only a lie that Israelis and their BLIND, supporters perpetrate to cover up their ROGUE behavior. Looks like Turkey will cut ties and there goes their ONLY ally in the region but Israel ASKED for that one by murdering Turkish citizens who were unarmed on a Turkish owned ship in international waters, NO BETTER than SOMALI pirates...