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Irish lack self esteem but country has not lost its Mojo says Lonely Planet

Pub remains main attraction for visitors to Ireland and Irish life


Grafton Street Dublin: Irish people lack self esteem – but the country is still well worth a visit and the pub remains the focal point of life in Ireland according to the new edition of one of the wor
Grafton Street Dublin: Irish people lack self esteem – but the country is still well worth a visit and the pub remains the focal point of life in Ireland according to the new edition of one of the world’s top travel guides
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Irish people lack self esteem – but the country is still well worth a visit and the pub remains the focal point of life in Ireland, according to the new edition of one of the world’s top travel guides.

The latest Lonely Planet Guide claims that the Irish reputation for friendliness is mostly a manifestation of a desire to chat.

The Irish Times newspaper reports on the Lonely Planet claims that the Irish lack self-esteem, despite a veneer of ‘garrulous sociability and self-deprecating twaddle’.

The best-selling publication also claims that the Irish reputation for having an easygoing, affable nature is justified. It describes the Irish lack of self-esteem as the nation’s ‘dark secret’.

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The Lonely Planet also states that the pub remains the ‘number one attraction’ for visitors to Ireland and is still the focus of Irish life.

“Ireland has not lost its Mojo despite years of recession, says the guide: “The good times may have gone, but Dublin still knows how to have a good time.”

The authors are however critical of Dublin tourist attractions like the Book of Kells and Temple Bar.

“The Celtic Tiger may be over but Ireland remains a country transformed for the better over the last two decades,” it says.

“It may be ridiculously crude and simplistic to suggest the Irish are used to hard knocks, but, nevertheless there is some truth in it.

“The Irish are fatalistic and pessimistic to the core, which is why they have accepted their economic fate more readily than the Greeks, who have rioted in the streets.

“While suspicious of praise and tending not to believe anything nice that’s ever said about them, the Irish wallow in false modesty like a sport and are fond of the peculiar art of self-deprecation.”

The Lonely Planet guide claims that begrudgery is a national sport and the writers find it amusing that Bono is subject to more criticism in Ireland than he is elsewhere.

The guidebook offers travellers two pieces of advice before they land in Ireland.

“Don’t use expressions like ‘top o’ the morning to you’ or ‘begorrah’ which belong in 1950s Hollywood movies and do buy your round,” it says.

It also claims: “Everything good about Ireland can be found in County Cork. Galway city has an overlaying vibe of fun and frolic that’s addictive but it is also a very rainy city, even by Irish standards.


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Ireland is beautiful and its people warm and witty. Just think of all of the talent that has come out of that country! I agree with others on this post where bragging about oneself is more a trait of insecurity, not trying to get others to talk about themselves. A people who have fought 1,000 years against oppression against the odds does not strike me as an "insecure country." Ireland has been struck by immigration and economic disaster in recent years, but as always, its people will overcome. With such a rich history and some of the best and brightest minds, I am proud to have Irish blood. I have been there several times on both coasts and plan on going again. Always a wonderful experience.
Plenty of people go to pubs just to meet their mates and have a tea or coffee. Not everyone drinks!
ancavker were is your proof of what you say? Its very easy to say things like that with no proof. pubs might be focal point but cafes are catching up really fast.
Ancavar, as someone who attended the gaeltacht, most of my friends regularly speak the language and a few work for CNG, TG4, another has a new programme starting on tv tomorrow called ''An G-Team'' and another who is from Dublin is a dj on a radio show in London but he hosts a music show here as gaeilge so Ive never experienced any negativity either in primary, secondary or in college. The Irish language was associated with rural Ireland which was thought of as a poverty stricken area so I can understand why there was an negative attitude towards it plus people were killed for speaking the language for a long time so that certainly didnt help! There has been a resurgence of the language over the past few years and lots of gaelscoileanna have been opened whihc is a good thing. Personally I think all primary schools should teach through Irish like they do in Wales but thats not likely. The Department of Education should be paying for every Irish kid to go to the gaeltacht for a few weeks a year instead of schools sending them on skiing trips to the Alps or language trips to Paris. Most Irish people know far more Irish than they realise. Most of my mates who claim to have no Irish would still be able to understand plenty of it. Just because someone doesnt speak Irish doesnt make them' less Irish' than someone who does. We have people here called 'irish language nazis' which is the name given to those who think they are superior to those with no Irish and funnily enough, it was Gaelgoirs who came up with the term!
I agree with Searlit… I think many Irish (back then) were raised that it was good indeed to have a personality but not a good to have a big ego. It was far more important as a people to draw the conversation out of a friend or visitor than speak of ourselves. I think that is what is now playing into what is viewed by others as low self esteem. I also remember as a child, when we went visiting if anyone asked "would you like this" are you hungry, it was very Irish to always say “Oh no no we’re fine” in a very modest way. I remember when I got married my boss from work called my mother to get ideas on a wedding gift, and he later told me my mom kept saying “oh she has everything” and couldn’t give him an idea for a gift. I understood completely, and my (Italian) boss who was still puzzled I told, “It’s just an Irish thing we can never ask anything”
ciara: Ask many Irish people what they think about the language and culture, and they will be embarrassed by it. There is no pride in it. And they do not appreciate how many people even with no connection to Ireland who love it. I have a friend in the music business who tells me Irish music is the most popular ethnic music in the world. I know people here in NYC with no connection to Ireland at all, who are passionate about the music. When they go to visit Ireland they are laughed at.
Don't think lonely Planet is for scruffy 20 somethings only. Head a visiting American astrologer recently quoting likewise, and he'd qualify as an unreconstructed hippy in his late 50's who was at Woodstock. LP description sounds fair comment. But then, after 2,000 years of spiritual sodomy by the Holy Roman Empire, and 800 years of cultural abuse by the Anglo-Saxons, we're not likely to be in very good shape - are we? But maybe that's a certain Catholic martyredom complex surfacing. I believe the term is post colonial inferiority complex, which fed the pre-colonial superiority complex of the British. Which is why they want us back in their quasi-empire to bolster their rapidly deflating ethno-centric imperial egos.
Simply put there are people on this earth, everywhere, who aren't concerned with putting on airs. If that's considered an Irish trait, it's a lovely one.
I think Lonely Planet or the article are off the mark. While I agree the Irish can forget everything but a grudge, I find no lack of self-esteem. There is that honest recognition when "the emperor has no clothes" but I do not find their lack of bragging and self-promotion, a sign of low-esteem. In my experience, it is the people who brag and put others down to make themselves look better, who are really suffering from low self-esteem.
Yes Irish run down Ireland but like I said, I can run down and slag off my family but I love them and you cant slag them! Its a close relationship thing which no one else has with their country and thats something I love about being Irish. I dont know anyone who thinks English or American anything is better except maybe tv programmes!
Ciara: Many always run down their own country and anything Irish. If is is English or American it is deemed better; simple as that. Oh and by the way I am Irish.
Inferior to who @ancavker? I dont know anyone who feels inferior because they are Irish! Our government might be inferior to most but the rest of us arent.
No self esteem, and an inferiority complex, I have been saying that for years;painful but true. And yes begrudgery!!! It is an art form!!
Carrickcourt, my dad is from Carrickmacross. A hotspot it is not! All the best places to visit are not in the guide books, they are meant to be discovered not over run with tourists like the Cliffs of Moher which is an area that has been ruined for the locals. RockNReel, Are you comparing Galway city and Cork County? Galway is for tourists really so it survives by being twee and pandering to tourists more so than Cork which is for people from Cork. Cork is a real city whereas Galway more of a town. West Cork is absolutely stunning!
Theres a lot more to Galway than there is to Cork in the way of entertainment, places to go, people to meet etc. Cork is too spread out where as galway is intimate and the people are genuinely friendly and helpful. I like Cork people as well but just think the city does not offer as much as Galway. Why not go to both and never mind the rain--its everywhere but not all the time . Same as Scotland or England--it also rains plenty there too




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