Irish insulted in major Washington museum exhibit claims scholar
History rewritten to show positive British influence, not ethnic cleansing
Published Sunday, February 10, 2013, 7:26 AM
Updated Sunday, February 10, 2013, 9:29 AM
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Maureen Hawkins | Feb 26, 2013, 08:58 PM EST
Anyone who doubts Dr. Owens' analysis should read Edmund Spenser's A View of the Present State of Ireland (1596), written while the English poet was in Ireland. As Wikipedia says, "Although it has been highly regarded as a polemical piece of prose and valued as a historical source on 16th century Ireland, the View is seen today as genocidal in intent." Do read it for yourself; his description of using a scorched earth policy to induce famine and his description of famine-starved Irish crawling out of the woods to die will stay with you. For shame on the Folger's! Obviously, they don't even read the contemporary sources, yet they consider themselves a major scholarly resource.
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ProfPeteB | Feb 20, 2013, 07:09 PM EST
The Brits like all those who defeat others, always rewrite history. It that hatred comes form a fear and Guilt in which they must constantly make the defeated enemy which has never given up, seem weak, worse, and inferior. They do that because they know their own evil has been outed by the brightest people and try as they will, they can never shake the guilt or make informed people buy their BS.
PS I am Not Irish, but my wife is. I am Italian American who grew up in an Italian, Irish, Jewish Neighborhood.
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3westies | Feb 19, 2013, 11:43 PM EST
If you have not studied Irish andddd English Historey
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RobinForester | Feb 14, 2013, 11:19 AM EST
(THE POTATO FAMINE, 1847) Where did the injustice come in: The landlords agents talked these people into agreeing to emigrate to Canada (America was closed to them because news of their extreme poverty, typhus fever and ill health had reached there) and, these agents offered to pay the boat fares for them to emigrate to Canada, having first loaded them up with cock and bull stories that Canada was the land of golden opportunity. When they agreed to emigrate all they obtained was a pittance in boat fares whilst the land owner obtained peaceful repossession of the land that these families had tenanted and nurtured for years, It could be argued that they should have had some security of tenure which catered for the crop blight. The trap entered they into was: the ships to Canada were wooden ships that were hardly sea worthy and poorly maintained, they did not have passenger cabins, adequate kitchens, toilets, water or food supplies and the passengers slept in the hold. One thing for certain was, if they were ill when they stepped aboard these death traps then by the time they arrived in Canada, up to 8% per cent of them would have been buried at sea or died within days of arrival. Canada was not the land of opportunity, it was an hard rock society with all that that entails. If you take into account these people were shipped across the Atlantic during 4 months of winter storms weather we endure, it makes you shudder at mans injustice to man. 1st section below.
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RobinForester | Feb 13, 2013, 11:39 PM EST
Warrenpoint002: My own view on the Potato Famine is whether in strictly legal terms was an injustice committed to the Irish people,my answer is YES 43% and NO 57% per cent of the time, but if you were to ask me "Was a MORAL injustice done to the Irish citizenry" then the answer is yes, it was. Please take into account the following: At that time landlords from both sides, English and Irish, had sizable tenant rent debts going back 4 years or more. The tenants could not pay the rent because they had no job and no income and were destitute, understandable violence to rent collectors and bailiffs took place due to the number of tenant rent arrears evictions they participated in. Because these people were at their wits end with the famine and typhus fever problems, and 1/third of them needed urgent medical attention, therefore, it was a disgrace to chase them for their rent debt when so many were literally at deaths door. Contd below:
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Smyrnian | Feb 13, 2013, 08:58 PM EST
I have serious reservations about the mental stability of one of these posters. Seriously.....
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STEVENSTAR | Feb 13, 2013, 07:02 PM EST
@@ancavker | Feb 13, 2013, 09:35 AM EST
ANCAVKER ... IM TAKING IT AS YOUR AMERICAN AS MOST OF THE POSTERS ON HERE ARE... WELL TALKING OF 'SLAUGHTER; LETS TALK ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY WHERE YOU HAVE THESE MASSIVE GUN CRIMES AND GUN TOTING AMERICANS WALKING INTO SHOPPING CENTERS AND SCHOOLS AND 'SLAUGHTERING' WOMEN AND LITTLE CHILDREN ON AN ALMOST MOTHLY BASIS ... THATS IS WHAT SHOULD BE WORRYING YOU AND TAKING UP YOUR TIME, FOR EXAMPLE TRYING TO CHANGE THE LAWS IN YOUR OWN 'CRAZY' COUNTRY... IM AN IRISHMAN AND I LIVE IN THE YEAR 2013 AND IM NOT COMING ON HERE DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY LISTENING TO AMERICANS TRYING TO STIR UP TROUBLE BETWEEN THE IRISH AND THE BRITISH ... ESPECIALLY NOWADAYS WHEN MOST OF US PUT THE PAST BEHIND US AND MOVED ON .. WE NOW HAVE PEACE IN MY COUNTRY ' GOOD FRIDAY AGREEMENT WHICH WE IRISH VOTED IN... I REALLY SUGGEST YOU TAKE YOUR COMMENTS THAT YOU COME ON HERE EVERY DAY TO MAKE AND TRY SPREADING A LITTLE PEACE AND HAPPINESS AND TRY JUST TRY KEEPING YOUR BITTER REMARKS TO YOURSELD BECAUSE AS AN IRISMAN I HAVE NO INTEREST IN PEOPLE LIKE YOU TRYING TO STIR THINGS IN MY COUNTRY !! TOWARDS OUR NEAREST NEIGHBORS ...CHEERS MATE!!
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RobinForester | Feb 13, 2013, 01:37 PM EST
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ancavker | Feb 13, 2013, 09:35 AM EST
STEVEN:Now you are conpoaring
Canadian American realtionship
over the last two hundred years
to the Irish British relationship
over centuries. Americans were not
slaughtering Canadians down
through the centuries or vice
versa. So much for your often mentioned
Irish education. As far as
the Irish language I think it is
wonderful that so many Irish-
Americans are learning it.
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warrenpoint00 | Feb 13, 2013, 09:31 AM EST
There was one landlord in Ireland, born in Ireland ,of English extraction of course who had a habit of stopping his horse at the field where a once proud Irish land owner ,now a tenant to this despicable landlord, worked with his wife and daughter.This landlord proceeded to rape the young girl at the top of the field in the presence of her parents. This was the punishment meted out to this family by a foreign English socialite because the farmer was previously, found fishing the river to provide food for his family.The fishing rights were controlled by the English land lord as well of course, so it was illegal for an Irish man to fish in his own Irish river at the height of this great hunger in Ireland.One day though this English land lord met his fate at the hands of a few Irish boys, who proceeded to cut off the parts that gave this English tramp so much sadistic pleasure.Needless to say he died from his wounds after lingering in agony for a few months.There are countless stories handed down through the generations in Ireland of how the british, unsuccessfully planned the extinction of the Irish people through hunger,theft and torture, and we Irish should and will never forget that.
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anglo-norman | Feb 12, 2013, 11:04 PM EST
STEVEN- Of course you have something better to do at 2 a.m in the morning?
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seanomelb | Feb 12, 2013, 09:22 PM EST
A LITTLE INFO FOR FALLINGSTAR THE SECOND MOST SPOKEN LANGUAGE IN ENGLAND AND WALES IS POLISH ALL 500,000 THOUSAND OF THEM AND ANOTHER little secret Britain is also in recession. 1.21pm. BOZO
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Smyrnian | Feb 12, 2013, 09:06 PM EST
Nobody reads ALL CAPS YELLING Stevenstar. No credibility.
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STEVENSTAR | Feb 12, 2013, 09:00 PM EST
@@@@Jerry Kelly | Feb 11, 2013, 08:42 PM EST
IM DELIGHTED YOU TOOK TIME OUT TO LEARN SOME IRISH OR DID YOU COPY AND PASTE THAT ? IM IRISH AND ILL HOLD MY HAND UP AND SAY I DONT SPEAK OR WRITE IT.. WHAT IS IT WITH AMERICANS HEY THEY ALWAYS TRY TO BE BIGGER AND BETTER THEN EVERYONE ELSE, ITS LIKE LOOK AT ME I CAN SPEAK IRISH AND THEN YOU CALL ME A WEST BRIT .. I MEAN HOW SILLY IS THAT MATE ? I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT INDIANA BUT AT LEAST ITS A MILLION MILES FROM IRELAND AND I HOPE YOU STAY THERE ;) ,, YOU SILLY MAN ... AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED WOULD YOU LIKE ME KNOCKING THE CANADIANS YOUR NEIGHBORS? SO YOU DONT KNOW MY NEIGHBORS WHO ARE THE BRITS !! AND GO AND HAVE ANOTEHR BIG MAC !!
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