Irish homeowners now have legal right to shoot intruders
New law is attacked by civil liberties organizations as ‘license to kill’
Published Sunday, January 15, 2012, 8:01 AM
Updated Sunday, January 15, 2012, 8:07 AM
Convicted of manslaughter, Nally was sentenced to six years in jail, but his conviction was overturned on appeal after the court accepted he had not been permitted to use self-defense as an argument at his trial.
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ciaradexy | Feb 01, 2012, 11:33 AM EST
Jimmy 'I wash ma self with a rag on a stick' 12003.
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seanomelbourne | Jan 18, 2012, 05:48 PM EST
If prisoner 12003 would read my previous post he would know how stupid is his last post,Poor jimmy foul mouth.
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jimmy12003 | Jan 18, 2012, 04:43 PM EST
mamaginnty! who you calling a twit! read your own post again, you fuc-king tool! in not so many words, you said you would do the same! and as for that wan-ker seanomelbourne! moron yea? melbourne is the place for you! your the sort of clown that would surports the rights of the poor intruders! tos-ser!
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jrobich | Jan 18, 2012, 12:10 PM EST
Wait -- "protect the right to life of intruders"???
They gave up that right when they became intruders -- sorry, the homeowner's "right to life" takes precedence!
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seanomelbourne | Jan 17, 2012, 07:05 PM EST
Jimmy is 12003 your jail number for that's where you belong you moron.
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aloistmartin | Jan 17, 2012, 06:20 PM EST
And Nerves that never flinched at Protestant Carnage; Scream for Bloody Murder at being Short Changed at Burger King ?
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mamaginnty | Jan 17, 2012, 04:15 PM EST
Jimmy12003, who are you actually talking about you twit, with that mouth a lot of decent people would not let you near their property line.
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jimmy12003 | Jan 17, 2012, 03:04 PM EST
about time we got the right to shoot knac-kers and co-ons! if they had brought this in about 20 years ago, there would be alot less knac-kers pi-ssing about! i hold a firearm legally, and i can tell you right here and now that if some nogood co-on or knac-ker as much as comes inside my property line without invite! there will be no saving him! it would save the taxpayer having to pay out benifits to one less cu-nt!
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merefalow | Jan 17, 2012, 01:22 PM EST
good law,don,t break into peoples homes to rob,and in some cases kill.you wont get killed.
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Pittsburghkid | Jan 16, 2012, 03:58 PM EST
The law is good, because most people won't shoot without cause. They rather the intruder leave. First of all, blood is messy and hard to clean up, next comes the Para-Medics, the police, and finally the lawyer. It is much easier to let the bastard go.
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durtymurphy | Jan 16, 2012, 12:43 PM EST
The 60's are over. John Lennon said "Peace is now - if you want it" We all tried the love and peace practice and had all the terrific talent to back it up, Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, the Guthries, in fact pretty much the whole musical scene everywhere, Not anymore. We live in times where you can get your head stove in, for a cell phone, ( I guess the perp needs it to call someone they love)
We are in the era now of self preservation. self defense, police have become para-militarized, with an, us against them attitude, why do we need a SWAT team in Beverly Hills, or Simi Valley (where all the cops live) The Bellamy Brothers, Old Hippie, is my anthem now, we are still old hippies, but, old hippies with guns, (to help protect our cabbage patch)
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antoman | Jan 16, 2012, 11:56 AM EST
Set up traps at home like those in the Road Runner cartoon and lure the thief or thieves in. Great craic huh?
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mamaginnty | Jan 16, 2012, 11:47 AM EST
Almost all farmers in Ireland have guns...and have had them for decades. shotguns and rifles, I have one myself, but I do not think people are rushing out to buy, it will be a good deterrent to the robber now, thinking he might get shot ( legally )They tried to bring in a law a couple of years ago where we had to get a steel cabinet and keep the shotgun locked up, but it fell through, we need the gun near hand to shoot at marauding dogs killing sheep etc. So guns have been legally held here for as long as I can remember. As for jamthecat saying it happens very very rarely...wrong. Quite a few elderly people in country area's have been beaten almost to death or scared wittless. Nally had been broken into a few times and beaten as well, I cannot blame the man for finally losing it. Now I can push that gun into someone's face and say get to hell or I pull the trigger, but I do not want to see a law brought in to allow handguns.
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faberm1 | Jan 16, 2012, 08:15 AM EST
IrelandNorth, I don't know if your question was directed towards me, but I will answer. In Texas the law applies whether you own the property or whether you are a tenant. However, we have an underlying jurisprudential requirement of "necessary force". in other words, you can't kill a blind man wandering up your front walk and coming into your home accidently if a reasonably prudent person could have known or should have known no high degree of danger existed. However, what these new laws do is shift the presumption towards the home dweller. They essentially say, if you're in your home minding your own business (especially at night) and someone wanders in unannounced and uninvited, the "presumption" will be that they are there to commit acts of violence on the home dweller. That has been the norm in these days of increased violence and crime. (burglars were suing homeowners and winning, and the law had to be reversed to stop the crazy outcomes of those suits.) Incidentally, we too had courts of law and justice (we called it equity) here in the USA and they were merged. Your justice courts are there to overcome crazy outcomes that the law requires and are there just for the purpose you voice (referencing the dangers of the situations faced.)
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