Irish government to give full legal status to Pagan weddings
Minister also supports legislation for Humanists ahead of final reading
Published Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 7:19 AM
Updated Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 7:19 AM
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KatieMurphy | May 09, 2012, 05:53 PM EDT
Just atnoehr forward step and a slap in the face of the pope who in 2009 UNexcommunicated Bishop Williamson, a holocaust denier.................I have a f rined who was a nun and left the formal church to marry an ex priest..........Finally she admitted she actually left 40 years ago as she could see RATZI moving up in the hierarchy. The man is certifiably mad. HE's been exposed as knowning about and sending letters to Irish and American Bishops telling them to keep quiet about the endless hidden molestation of children......But I wish him a long life and Papacy for he is doing what the western world has been unable to do for a thousand years. - Destroying the vatican. Soon the for sale - bankrupt sign will hang over the vat. gays and mankind in the west will be free..........All the old duffers who want to stick with the church - thats their priveledge, time will cure them.
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ciaradexy | May 03, 2012, 01:53 PM EDT
Sondage, pagans weddings are legal but are not state recognised here.
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connemaragirl | May 03, 2012, 03:08 AM EDT
Bythebay, Ireland is my Country and you are idiot and speak for your self ,not everyone else in Ireland ,now who is the bigot
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sondagefaux | May 02, 2012, 08:06 PM EDT
Some facts:
1. Pagan weddings are ALREADY legal in Ireland. The Pagan Federation of Ireland is one of the religious bodies permitted to carry out state-recognised weddings in Ireland.
2. Non-religious weddings are ALREADY legal in Ireland and have been since before independence. Civil marriages, as they're known, are performed by government officials (registrars)in registry offices.
3. The proposed change to the law will allow non-governmment, non-religious organisations to carry out state-recognised weddings.
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aloistmartin | May 02, 2012, 07:04 PM EDT
I. Think any Republican worth his Marx/Engells would agree Separation of Church and State is a necessary Evil. But If this Is just another Bourgeois means of skipping Church on Sunday, I. say into Baptismal with all of you !
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Curitiba | May 02, 2012, 06:07 PM EDT
Boudicca, the queen of the Celtic Iceni tribe from Essex, who fought the Romans in AD60, is reputed to be buried under Platform 9 of King's Cross Station in London. How's that for a random pagan-related fact!
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bunkerhill | May 02, 2012, 05:55 PM EDT
I think there is the most amazing force for Love in our universe and I don't think anyone can put a finger on it. Why is it that a beautiful baby deprived of oxygen for a minute can be so developementally disabled, but can play the most beautiful music without any training just from memory. How does that happen and where does it come from? Why are "disabled" children so often gifted in art or science? What is in our brains or beings that gifts the "disabled" to such extraordinary, untaught sources? How does one determine that the sun is 93 million miles from Earth or that the world is indeed round and not flat? I believe there is an unbelievable source of love in our universe and none of us have a clue.
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Curitiba | May 02, 2012, 05:19 PM EDT
Thinking of painting my face in woad and making one last charge against the Romans in my chariot with the spikes on the wheels...
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ciaradexy | May 02, 2012, 03:24 PM EDT
This is great news. Some of us dont believe in christianity. its great to have this as an option now.
seanomelb, I agree with your post about Humanism being the way forward.
The idea of getting married at Slane or the Hill of Tara where the High Kings made their promises sounds amazing.
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Bythebay | May 02, 2012, 12:42 PM EDT
It's wonderful to see Ireland becoming the all-inclusive country the Irish people want.
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IrelandNorth | May 02, 2012, 06:48 AM EDT
Modern Ireland is indeed a diverse European country, though not necessarily both states equivalently. (But people should really only speak for themselves, and not countries they consider other!) Pagan weddings are a case of the return of the divine feminine, and the collapse of the profane masculine. Last rights and meeting God are nightmare scenarios inflicted on the feeble-minded to justify orthodoxy, like pleniary indulgences were a lucrative religious entrepreneurship. (NB Rather than judging or being judged, one views the existential 'DVD' of ones past life metaphysically, in the company of a 'Council of Ten' male elders. See book "Embraced By The Light.) But - is an atheistic pro-abortion Irish Senator (of Czech extraction) the right person to be proposing pagan weddings - posing as a humanist?
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CaptainCon | May 02, 2012, 06:43 AM EDT
'Give us back our snakes'. It was funny looking at the official government list of approved organisations for 'solemnising' marriages. The Pagan Federation of Ireland was five places above the Roman Catholic Church. It appears now that the state has got into the area of approving registered religions that we have something of a constitutional anomaly. On the same basis that former Minister for Justice Ahern felt moved to regularise the position of 'blasphemy' (the fool) we now have to clear up the preamble and references to 'god almighty' in the constitution. I vote that 'god almighty' should be changed to 'spirits, ghosts, pucas, river deities and supreme beings as unidentified'. Cool or what :)
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seanomelb | May 01, 2012, 07:24 PM EDT
"Humanists" the only way to go,to love honour and obey,to help your fellow human without the baggage of religious doctrine or false Gods.
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Sharrow | May 01, 2012, 05:05 PM EDT
Ireland has had legal pagan weddings for the last two and half years. This change in legislation will allow for the registering of solemnisers who don't have the sponsorship of a religious group or community, thereby including humanists.
"Legal Pagan Marriage
With effect from 15th December 2009,
the National Coordinator of Pagan Federation Ireland,
has been registered on the Register of Solemnisers,
under the terms of Section 53(3) of the Civil Registration Act 2004.
Consequently, it is now possible to be legally married
in a Pagan ceremony in Ireland
If you wish to be legally married in a Pagan ceremony,
please contact paganfederationireland@gmail.com
to discuss the necessary requirements."
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