Irish government critical of British stance on Pat Finucane murder review
Published Tuesday, October 18, 2011, 8:33 AM
Updated Tuesday, October 18, 2011, 10:59 AM
“They are deeply unhappy about what has happened, not only because of what it has done to the family but also because of the significant diplomatic incident that it creates between the Irish and British governments.”
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DanOLoingsigh | Oct 23, 2011, 05:27 AM EDT
Seano - 'Engaging the enemy' are your words for justifying the killing of, amongst others, Prison Guards. These guys would not be amongst the smartest of people, generally working class, probably happy to have permanent employment. But they were part of the 'system' so in your words it was 'OK' for them to be killed...Mr Finucane was also part of the 'system',of course,far smarter than a mere Prison Guard. The point here Sean is that each side selected their 'legitimate targets', and 'engaged their enemy'...it's just then a short step to pulling the trigger...I can't justify any of that, whereas you have to, otherwise the whole republican campaign, at least post 1974, unravels.
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DanOLoingsigh | Oct 23, 2011, 05:07 AM EDT
Seano...happy to refresh your memory...the subject of the article was 'McG confronted by son of murdered soldier', and twice in posts you commented 'its time to move on'. In other words 'leave the past in the past'. My point is just that you are very selective in the bits of the past you want forgotten, and bits you want revisited, I wonder why?
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seanomelbourne | Oct 22, 2011, 08:08 PM EDT
Sorry for the Hogg mistake.I did not try to stifle debate on any subject Dan your paranoia is showing through.Maybe you can refresh my memory,I never made any direct reference to private Kelly.You seem to pay lip service to to the murder of lawyers because they represented the those who stood for justice and the right to have equality under the law. You seem to skirt around injustices perpetrated by the British to assuage your anti Irish stance.
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PaulFagan | Oct 22, 2011, 01:43 PM EDT
No surprise! The Prime Minster is leader of the Conservative and Unionist Party! Remember Maggie Thatcher!
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DanOLoingsigh | Oct 22, 2011, 12:24 PM EDT
Seano - apparently you didn't spot it, but I merely re-used your own words in that post, except you used them to try to prevent any more discussion on Irish Army Private Kelly...you also said it was counter productive to go back over such events...in case you want to check date 12 Oct, 6.01
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DanOLoingsigh | Oct 22, 2011, 12:15 PM EDT
Seano - sorry to go a-nitpicking again, but I think you will find it was Douglas HOGG who referred to some lawyers being 'too close' to IRA. Not quite as direct as you claim, but not too clever in the circumstances...BUT nobody needed 'a lead' to Mr Finucane...he was a high profile lawyer...
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seanomelbourne | Oct 21, 2011, 05:13 PM EDT
Tell that to the McGuiness haters Dan,tell them to move on or do you pick and choose which items to remember and which ones we should forget. Giving the loyalists a leave pass " who thought they were engaging the enemy" is a cop out they knew damn well whom they were targeting. Enoch Powell in a parliamentary speech days before the murder of Finucane called for the deaths of anyone who defended Sinn Fein/IRA. Thats where your unionist friends got their lead.
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DanOLoingsigh | Oct 21, 2011, 02:41 AM EDT
Sadly, Finucane was targetted by Loyalist killers, who thought they were 'engaging an enemy'...All deaths are tragic and using them to make a bitter political point is also tragic. A peace deal has been reached and it's time to move on.
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seanomelbourne | Oct 20, 2011, 07:43 PM EDT
Typical stupid statement Dan.Therefore nationalists were not allowed representation your hypocrisy is showing.Mr Finucane was a solicitor and had the right to defend whom he pleased.
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DanOLoingsigh | Oct 20, 2011, 06:47 PM EDT
Many good people were killed in the troubles...Finucane defended some of the killers...that p***ed some of his opponents off...no surprise that he met a similar fate.
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merefalow | Oct 20, 2011, 03:19 PM EDT
they had to shut up a legal voice that waS TO SUCCESSFULL in obtaing justice for his clients..a polical assassination from the highest authority,in seeking the truth and justice from the old enemy,dream on//
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Kilsally | Oct 20, 2011, 04:40 AM EDT
Ken Barrett a British agent who had infilitrated the Loyalist paramilitaries was convicted of Finucanes murder. tony blair offered an inquiry under the same terms as Bloody Sunday and the family refused (results would be out by now) - under the conservative coalition government who are making severe cuts to public services they are simply not going to throw £400 million at it they way they did Bloody Sunday (lawyers getting rich). Rebelforce says "An Irish citizen, a noted Irish human and civil rights lawyer" - Sean O Callaghan a former IRA commander in his book states Finucane was in the IRA and plenty of his relatives were too (killed arrested, convicted etc) if you google it - does that make him a combatant if the likes of postmen who were part time UDR soldiers who were shot in the back delivering mail were classed as `combatants`?
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Towngate | Oct 19, 2011, 01:24 PM EDT
Here's news for Eamon Gilmore. Britain has its own Governmant and runs it's own affairs.
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DanOLoingsigh | Oct 19, 2011, 12:02 AM EDT
Seano...so you think not every Irishman's family deserves the truth? Pray tell us why?
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