Irish couple fighting for their lives after losing son and unborn baby
English road crash has tragic consequence for holiday-makers
Published Sunday, July 8, 2012, 9:28 AM
Updated Sunday, July 8, 2012, 9:28 AM
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hermitTalker | Jul 09, 2012, 11:29 AM EDT
The family is from Co Cork, were on a vacation. I did not know until this post that the driver apparently committed suicide, obviously not thinking straight by taking a chance he would survive and of course destroy a young family. The drivel on here about emigration or immigration is totally irrelevant. Europe is making an effort to unify itself after hundreds of years of crazy inter-religious and imperial-dominerring USSR and Nazi war. Of course it has some ironing work to be done, but one can see that the old system of colonialism that enslaved millions and destroyed families was not the best system either. Pray about it, make a contribution to the future. "Light candles instead of cursing the darkness, and adding ignorance to the giant Pot of it that hatred and racism, reliigous bigotry and fear of the foreigner has already brought
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NXS | Jul 09, 2012, 10:54 AM EDT
If "Ireland is importing massive numbers of migrants and settlers from those areas of the world and Irish taxpayers are being crucified", dont you think that is Ireland fault to import them than the immigrants fault? People from those countries can only come here only with a visa and invitation as they are non-EU. illegals and Aslym seekers are different, I agree. They are not imported by Ireland, they came here themselves and burden to Irish tax payers.
talking about burden on tax payers and illegals, i know of many irish fellowmen and women in the US who were a burden to my tax when I worked in the US legally.
RIP.
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NXS | Jul 09, 2012, 10:39 AM EDT
awah.. nikki.. i love you too...
woundedknee and my beloved nikki,
I read the article and understood, nice and clear. i was not suggesting that people should stay in their home country..I am taking the p!ss, by being sarcastic about your ignorance - mass immigration causes road accidents. it is actually bad drivers who causes accidents, that can either be an immigrant or tourist or a native. for all we know, the polish guy could be a tourist in the UK. so, as far as i can see, both the irish family and polish guy were in a foreign country UK, not their own country. He is a foreigner in the UK as much as the irish family vacationing in the UK but the point that I am trying to make is that he is a bad driver, who could be any nationality.
if you suggest that polish are only come as immigrants in the UK and Ireland, never "rich" enough to be a tourist, then you are being "bit Irish" if you get my drift.
Talking of spineless, I am irish worked in US and other EU countries including our great motherland of Ireland. Never been on Dail, always managed to earn a living and paying taxes. Apart from my full time paid job, I also do voluntary part time work for a NGO (without gettting paid) who helps Irish people who lost their jobs to find their feet and keep it together in tough times. This is where I had to put up with our great politicians who does nothing to help us in the NGO, instead causing trouble.
Please go ahead, report me and block me. I will write it from another user name and IP address.
Hugs and kisses.... mwah...
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SAirish | Jul 09, 2012, 09:43 AM EDT
Both Ireland and the UK were foolish enough to allow unrestricted immigration from the new EU countries of eastern europe starting in 2004. I believe the one other country that allowed this was Sweden. Anyway the rest of Europe refused and for 7 years, both Ireland and the UK were swamped with them. 600,000 people entering the UK from Poland alone. The fact that the other EU countries like France and Germany did not allow them in, made the situation even worse. The economic downturn in both Ireland and the UK resulted in some of them going back. The trouble is that once the UK and Irish Governments agreed to let them in they were pretty powerless to stop it. The seven year period is now up and there is no restriction on these eastern europeans entering the rest of the EU, which hopefully will ease the situation in the UK and Ireland. It has however caused social problems such as insufficient housing, school places and jobs.
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nikki1 | Jul 09, 2012, 09:03 AM EDT
Can someone please get rid of that idiot NXS who clearly is not able to read or understand English! Are you trying to say no one should ever leave the country to go on hols and if they do and have an accident that is not their fault then tough they shouldnt have been there to begin with, you better be very careful cos the next time you could on holidays and are maybe driving a car remember my words "what goes around comes around!!" You've been reported so hopefully its a matter of time before you've been thrown out of here, @ woundedknee do me a favour report NXS also and he/she might be thrown off quicker
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WoundedKnee | Jul 09, 2012, 09:00 AM EDT
NXS: You might have started by apologizing for misreading my post --and the original article-- so badly. Too bad you don't have that courtesy. In relation to your claim, the last time I was in Ireland, I noticed that Dublin was full of Indians, Chinese, Pakistanis, Arabs and Africans. You appear not to know that such places are not in the EU. Yet Ireland is importing massive numbers of migrants and settlers from those areas of the world. As to your "economics" it is the analysis of a clown. Irish taxpayers are being crucified --it has been calculated at $20k for every man woman and child in the country--in order to pay debts that are not theirs; Ireland was threatened with ruin by the EU if it did not agree to assume these debts. These debts were not incurred by this generation, nor by the next, yet they will be paid by Irish people in the 2020s, 2030s and Goodness knows maybe even into the 2040s. Instead of taking care of the sick, educating their children, cleaning up their dirty cities, the Irish will be pumping money into the EU for decades. The Irish have themselves to blame for accepting this, I will agree with you on that point, but you're no better than anyone else when it comes to spinelessness.
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NXS | Jul 09, 2012, 08:01 AM EDT
it is a fact that we all as Irish signed up to, including our politician fools, to be part of EU. i am irish and cant say I am proud. Blessing in disguise, without EU bailout, all our fellow citizens will be begging in streets and our women in the street "doing service" to all those immigrants for few quids, who still managed to hold on to a job and have some money in their pockets. we have ourselves to blame.
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WoundedKnee | Jul 09, 2012, 06:49 AM EDT
NXS: You have totally misunderstood the case. The Irish family were not immigrants to Britain, they were on vacation. Did you not even understand the article above? The immigrant was the guy from Poland. If he hadn't been in Britain, the Irish family would be all alive & healthy today.
As to SAIrish's post, you're wrong, there IS evidence that drivers from Eastern Europe have a high rate of involvement in fatal accidents in Ireland. People hurt or killed by those drivers would not be hurt or killed if those drivers were not in Ireland. That's a simple statement of fact. The irony is that if someone from Latvia or Poland arrives in Ireland they can, if they wish (many don't wish to, as it helps them avoid tickets) take out an Irish driving license. Contrast that with an American, or an Irish-born friend of mine who calculated that he must have driven nearly half a million miles during the 13 or so years he lived in the US. When he returned to Ireland recently, he was told that not only he wouldn't be automatically issued an Irish licence on the basis of his Georgia permit, but that he'd have to enroll and take a dozen driving lessons before they'd even let him do the test. Truly there are no fools like the fools who run Ireland--it's no wonder the country is in ruin.
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NXS | Jul 09, 2012, 05:29 AM EDT
yeah.. seems like lot of Irish mass immigrants in the UK than polish immigrants...
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SAirish | Jul 09, 2012, 04:59 AM EDT
There are many eastern europeans living in Ireland and it could have happened there as well. Although there is no evidence that Polish drivers make a habit of deliberately driving into other cars. There are at least a million Irish born people living in mainland UK, which means it has the largest number of Irish born people in the world outside Ireland.
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NXS | Jul 09, 2012, 03:24 AM EDT
I agree with Woundedknee. It is another victim of mass immigration. If these family kept themselves to Ireland and not going to UK, they would have been saved their own lives...
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SAirish | Jul 09, 2012, 03:00 AM EDT
The Polish driver is as bad as a Muslim suicide bomber. If he wanted to kill himself he should have driven over a cliff.
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WoundedKnee | Jul 09, 2012, 02:47 AM EDT
What a sad story. And with a heavy heart I have to point out that family is yet another victim of the madness of Mass Immigration.
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