Irish couple begin challenge over same sex marriage - historic case en route to the High Court
Couple who married in Canada continue fight to have their marriage recognized under Irish law
Published Thursday, June 7, 2012, 8:20 AM
Updated Thursday, June 7, 2012, 8:40 AM
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Portia777 | Jun 08, 2012, 09:45 AM EDT
Well, for two intelligent women I am surprised that they beg for permission like they are not free sovereign beings? Why would they want to have a third party in their marriage- the patriarchal state- and if they want to divorce, they will have to be good little girls and ask permission.Bless the old days in Eire when we married and divorced without any church or state CONTRACTS.The state love contracts, so if you wise ladies want to contract yourselves to the male patriarchal system, go right ahead. Otherwise keep your money and enjoy life.
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GeorgeDillon | Jun 07, 2012, 03:21 PM EDT
You're dead right, SeanMor, and pay no heed to the specious speculations of hollaback. If the government needs to get out of the bedroom and stop regulating who can marry, then it's high time it stopped prohibiting freely consenting men and women who happen to be siblings or parent/child from marrying. Hollaback's claim is actually shown to be false by a story about two consenting adults (father/daughter, I think) that's been running on IrishCentral for weeks. In case of misunderstanding, I should state,and I suspect SeeanMor agrees with me, that I believe that governments do have a right to impose controls on the institution of matrimony, since marriage is above all a civic and legal relationship. Have sex with whoever you like, hollaback, mon, pop or sis, but don't expect society to recognize that as a valid marriage.
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hollabackgurl | Jun 07, 2012, 12:27 PM EDT
You're drawing a false analogy, Seanmor. That's like saying if they grant same sex marriage what's next, space travel? You're deliberately confusing an attraction with an orientation. The vast majority of incest is non-consensual. It only has a different name from rape, because both words were formed in a time when rape was considering “using” a father or husband’s property against his will. I would look on any comparison between homosexuality and incest as pretty obvious trolling because it’s deliberately using the fact that almost all reported incest comes under the heading of sexual abuse with family access being just a method to accomplish the abuse.
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Seanmor | Jun 07, 2012, 08:58 AM EDT
Even if the same-sex couple are denied the right to marry in the highest court in the Irish state, they may win their case as a human rights issue in the Strasbourg Court. Whatever the ultimate outcome of this case, one is left to wonder if incestuous couples should also have a legal right to marry.
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