Irish bar staff in New York afraid to go home for Christmas -- fear of losing their jobs
20 Irish barmen avoid taking time off over Christmas fearing they will lose their posts
Published Wednesday, December 26, 2012, 6:14 AM
Updated Wednesday, December 26, 2012, 6:14 AM
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Ron | Dec 27, 2012, 09:33 PM EST
What's the big deal? Bar owners are running businesses, are running a business, not a
holiday creche. If people sign upp for a job where
Xmas is their best time, then they can't expect to go back to Ireland for weeks.
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Stiofain | Dec 27, 2012, 04:42 PM EST
From San Francisco to New York the "holidays" are busiest time of year for restaurants/bars, some cases it nearly makes the year.We need our regular, experienced,staff. It also means more money for them,though most holiday(especially New Years)makers don't tip well the volume does it. I never had the holidays off for all the years I was restaurantor,nor did I expect it. Wouldn't take it anyway...except New Years/St Pat's,and stay home.
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bobby | Dec 27, 2012, 04:29 PM EST
@STEVENSTAR, The figure is more like 50,000 illegal Irish and not hundreds of thousands as you say.
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ancavker | Dec 27, 2012, 01:26 PM EST
The bar staff that have been
employed for some period of time
are given off to go home for
Christmas, but if they are only
here a short time, they cannot
It is as simple as that. This
new crowd wnats it both ways.
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ancavker | Dec 27, 2012, 01:21 PM EST
STEVENSTAR: There are more than
you might think; and I know that
first hand. As far as being
inhospitable, true, but not just
for the Irish. Also there are many
Irish-Americans who were
very involved with helping
the legalize all the Irish that
came in the 80's. Many are not
involved now, as the economy
over here is still poor. And
two many Irish-Americans don't
want to help the current crop
of illegal Irish because many of
the crowed that came in the 80"s
did not appreciate all the efforts we made
and have a big chip on their shoulder
about Irish-Americans. A chip that
really is just begrudgery. This new
crowd is even worse. You only
like us when you wnat something.
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seamus60 | Dec 27, 2012, 12:32 PM EST
People all over the world , even the undocumented work on Xmas day. Get over it or move on and let some one else have the job.
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Strongbow | Dec 26, 2012, 11:50 PM EST
Don't see the point of this article. This is the nature of the service industry, particularly for those at the lower rungs. I and millions of service-members didn't complain when we spent Christmas in addition to other holidays in far inhospitable reaches of the planet. Upon returning to civilian life many of us public service organizations where celebrating holidays at home is the exception. The business of America is Business - get used to it.
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STEVENSTAR | Dec 26, 2012, 10:20 PM EST
PLEASE TELL ME ACTUALLY HOW MANY IRISH WENT TO AMERICA IN THE LAST FEW YEARS TO DO BAR JOBS ??? :) ID SAY VERY FEW NEARLY EVERY IRISH PERSON I KNOW WHO IMMIGRATED IN THE LAST 5 YEARS HAS GONE TO ENGLAND, AUSTRALIA OR CANADA I DONT KNOW ANY WHO WENT TO AMERICA .. BECAUSE OF NEW TOUGH IMMIGRATION LAWS.....AMERICA IS NOT AS PALLY AND AS GOOD A NEIGHBOR TO US IRISH AS YE WOULD LIKE TO THINK ... THEY'RE ARE STILL 100,000S OF IRISH ILLIGAL THERE WHO CANT GET VISAA... SO THATS WHY MOST IRISH IN 2012 AVIOD AMERICA AND THAT IS THE FACTS MY FRIEND!!!
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Seanmor | Dec 26, 2012, 07:55 PM EST
Once ever I spend the evening of Christmas Eve in a bar (only because a friend of mine was the bartender).Shortly after 11PM the customers began to leave for midnight mass. By 11:45 only one other customer remained, an avowed atheist.
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olovely | Dec 26, 2012, 06:34 PM EST
Couldn't be more timely. The documented and entitled Irish ruthlessly exploiting the vulnerable and undocumented Irish. One set gets to spend Christmas with their families and the other set gets to spent it alone behind a bar. It's how people live now. Tis' the season to expose them for it.
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johnshiel | Dec 26, 2012, 05:57 PM EST
creating the latest set of victims... the never ending work of the statist mindset...
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Smyrnian | Dec 26, 2012, 03:02 PM EST
It's the nature of the retail business whether you work in a bar, a Chinese restaurant or Macy's - guess what? You have to work the hours. Non story; usual IC kip.
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mamaginnty | Dec 26, 2012, 02:38 PM EST
Don't tell me pubs open on xmas day in America, dear oh dear. my xmas wish to woundedheadknee.wtf.
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WoundedKnee | Dec 26, 2012, 01:52 PM EST
Why are these people here in the US? There are lots of jobs in hotel and bar work in Ireland. The last bar I was in in Ireland, the barman was Bulgarian. I don't know how long it's been since I dealt with an Irish barman in Ireland. I've come across filipinos, Russians, Poles and goodness knows what else working in bars in Ireland. Some of them were pretty incompetent too. Those Irish should go home. Are they even legal?
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