Irish and Catholic groups protest nomination of cartoonist into Hall of Fame
Published Monday, December 19, 2011, 8:14 AM
Updated Monday, December 19, 2011, 12:14 PM
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buffaloirishman | Dec 20, 2011, 06:08 PM EST
The argument that the culture of the times excuse this man's bigotry means we would still have slavery and women not voting. Stand up and be counted as a person against bigotry.
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eiriamach | Dec 20, 2011, 04:44 PM EST
Wondering how to vote for a Hall of Fame candidate? Just put the words ' nj hall of fame ' in a Google or other search engine, and it should turn up links, including a link to the voting site. Go ahead, vote! It would be good to see Nast end up with the lowest number of votes. (Joyce Carol Oates is a good alternative.)
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PhlutiePhan | Dec 20, 2011, 03:52 PM EST
Thomas Nast was very talented. I do not agree with his philosophy, however. As someone of Irish-German Catholic ethnicity, I would question whether his German immigrant status might not have something to do with his villification.
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Tedmiller | Dec 19, 2011, 11:38 PM EST
In the context of modern Irish political thought, I would brand Thomas Nast as a bigoted, anti-Irish cultural racist. However, in the political culture of his time, he was a brilliant satirist and a talented cartoonist. As a recent emigre from Europe his economic survival and his fortunes were tied to his graphic interpretations of the contemporary political climate. Our quandry is that we must rail against his xenophobia while at the same time honoring his astute social and political works, including Santa Claus and the original graphcs interpretations of the American political parties of his day.
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Rebelforce | Dec 19, 2011, 08:36 PM EST
Why doesn't Irishcentral provide a link to this website so that concerned Irish-Americans can cast a vote against Nast's bigotry?
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Rebelforce | Dec 19, 2011, 08:25 PM EST
Can you imagine if "100% Irish" State Senator Dick Codey excused Adolf Hitler's anti-semitism by saying, "Adolf Hitler's anti-Jewish bigotry has to be put into proper perspective. He was just going along with the antisemitism of his times. I don't think he should be crucified for that."
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rugbyplayer | Dec 19, 2011, 08:25 PM EST
Irish jingoists, leave old Nast alone.
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eiriamach | Dec 19, 2011, 07:37 PM EST
Nast is not likely to end up in the NJ Hall of Fame. The category he is nominated in has several much more popular figures, and each voter is allowed to vote for only one in this category: Alexander Calder, Alfred Stieglitz, Charles Addams, Doris Duke, Dorothy Parker, Dorothy Porter Wesley, Joyce Carol Oates, Milton Friedman, Thomas Nast, Gov. Tom Kean.
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stephen1553 | Dec 19, 2011, 06:09 PM EST
Bishops as crocodiles attacking schoolchildren' No problem with that timely, or rather timeless analogy" quote REdBranch
Bulleye but you have to add in the 10000 or so priests who per SNAP molested children also.
While the bishops hid the problem and moved the vile priests to new locations. where they continued their crimes while keeping the collection plates full.
And why were the victims 80% male - bercause there were not any alter girls until fairly recently.
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seanomelbourne | Dec 19, 2011, 05:24 PM EST
Those of us who condone such venomous cartoons demean the tragedies their forbearers endured at the hands of bigots and races.
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cillowen | Dec 19, 2011, 02:52 PM EST
The Hall of Shame cartoonist, Thomas Nast, was a racist pure and simple. Honoring such a German SICKO immigrant
would say much for the land of the pure. Of course the many quisling Irish like Sen. Richard Codey, who claims to be "100% Irish," crawl about as per usual. Those Reagan, Buckley, O'Reilly, Hannity would fall nicely with such an niche.
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RedBranch | Dec 19, 2011, 01:46 PM EST
'Bishops as crocodiles attacking schoolchildren' No problem with that timely, or rather timeless analogy
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merefalow | Dec 19, 2011, 12:55 PM EST
ITS A HARD ONE,no one likes being stereotyped but the irish comedians are great at taking the mickey out of ourselves,WE ARE BIG ENOUGH TO TAKE THIS.it was a political comment of the time, and as i hate all forms of censorship i think, IT SHOULD BE ALLOWED.THE JEWS HAVE ENDURED THE SAME HORRIBLE STEREOTYPING,big noses etc,censorship is far worse,i hope we have gone beyond issuing fatwa's against people for drawing offensive cartoons,its called living in a free society or democracy..which i incidently believe to be under severe threat,,as the bill going through congress to control the internet proves..
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Nanajolie | Dec 19, 2011, 12:21 PM EST
If Nast were truly someone to merit being in Hall of Fame, he would not have depicted anyone in a derogatory manner - he would have taken high road and depicted the strengths and positive pints, not what he judged to be negative character traits. the same would apply today to any new people entering a country.
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