Irish women and children first to suffer as government cutbacks hit
Nothing but the same old story as the elites go scot-free in Ireland
Published Monday, October 1, 2012, 7:22 AM
Updated Monday, October 1, 2012, 7:35 AM
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bobby | Oct 02, 2012, 03:47 PM EDT
one of 10, your parents were busy, Irish people had large families in the 50s and 60s, today 1 or 2 is the norm, 3 is a big family.
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bobby | Oct 02, 2012, 02:39 PM EDT
billie you are really Thick. Read the 2 links below.
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billie061 | Oct 02, 2012, 02:27 PM EDT
Childrens allowance is paid from when they are born,but if they don't attend PRIMARY school when they are suppose to at 4/5 and not living here full-time, they don't get it. How juvenile are you 2egg on my face and look stupid" At least I'm not a racist. Migrant families are large ? Gosh I am one of ten which was mainly the norm some years back. Lets see us Irish went to Aus, U.S., U.K. Canada anywhere else guys ?
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bobby | Oct 02, 2012, 07:53 AM EDT
@billie here is a link you can read,
citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/social_welfare_payments_to_families_and_children/child_benefit.html
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bobby | Oct 02, 2012, 06:44 AM EDT
@billie you will find alot more information if you google it, i suggest you do so, you wont look so stupid next time. Egg on your face........
labour.ie/press/listing/13007277595112182.html
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bobby | Oct 02, 2012, 06:36 AM EDT
billie061, i wish you were right, but you are the one in the wrong. Childrens allowance is paid from when the child is born, not when they start in fulltime education. So long as one parent lives in Ireland working or claiming social welfare they are under EU law entitled to claim for childrens allowance for children living abroad. You are the one who is ignorant. Id look it up if i were you. Educate yourself......
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WoundedKnee | Oct 02, 2012, 01:40 AM EDT
billie061, are you posting from Ireland? Because it's often the Irish who know least about what's going on in their country. In this case you are flatout wrong. The fact of the matter is that Ireland DOES pay child welfare benefits to children of EU citizens, regardless of whether these citizens are on welfare or working, and ALSO regardless of where these persons' children are living. So that payment IS made in the case of children born and living in other EU countries (usually Eastern Europe). I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this, that you are mistaken rather than being dishonest. If the latter, you won't get away with your dumb attempt to spread disinformation here. As regards the name Pavel, what is "derogatry" (sic) about it? Are you prejudiced against Polish names?
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angrypaddy | Oct 02, 2012, 01:21 AM EDT
Why should the tax payer pay for fat ugly irish girls mistakes African/Irish babby's whatever colour or nationality,deport them all babbys and all
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billie061 | Oct 01, 2012, 10:39 PM EDT
Woundedknee and Bobby, you are both wrong, child benifit cannot be paid to Eastern europeans or Pavel ( how derogatry) unless their children are in fulltime education in this country from age 4-5, every child regardless of race or nationality is entitled to a full-time education or would you prefer we go back to hedge-schools. Woundedknee and Bobby your ignorence outshines both of you.
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cillowen | Oct 01, 2012, 07:01 PM EDT
Shatter's chimp who aims to please the masters.
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KevinKehoe | Oct 01, 2012, 06:46 PM EDT
An excellent article Tim Pat Coogan, right on the money.
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bobby | Oct 01, 2012, 01:18 PM EDT
It is not the stupidity of the Irish WoundedKnee for paying this out. It is EU law. There is nothing Ireland can do about it.
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WoundedKnee | Oct 01, 2012, 12:43 PM EDT
Two ways Ireland could save hundreds of millions. First, and this will save millions, not hundreds of millions: Stop the madness of paying child welfare to (generally Eastern European) children who have never even been in Ireland. American readers will scarcely believe the stupidity, but if Pavel is in Ireland--working or on welfare-- he can tell Irish Welfare agents that he has half a dozen children in Gdansk or wherever, and they start paying him a grand or more a month. Hard to beat that for sheer stupidity on the part of a country that is bankrupt and actually has to borrow the money to pay Pavel! The second costsaver, and this one WOULD save hundreds of millions: Stop providing free education for the children of foreign migrants. As things stand, an Indian family can arrive in Dublin on a Friday, and enroll their children in Irish schools (no charge) on the Monday. It's utter madness. Make whoever brought in the foreign migrants pay for the education of their children. Ideally, this should apply to all foreign children, with the exception of British, but given the spinelessness of the Irish government they'd never dare impose tuition fees in the case of EU children.
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Nicomax | Oct 01, 2012, 12:33 PM EDT
I'm guessing these allowances for children are essentially going to undeserving families since they are more 'takers' than 'makers'. But it was the bankers, both in Ireland and the US, who took unprecedented gambles with other peoples' money, and lost most of it. How deserving are these recognized 'makers'? A lot I guess since they were bailed out by the tax payers, avoided criminal indictments, and got angry when we suggested they were greedy.
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