Irish TD will wear poppy to commemorate the British war dead

Old Knee quotes Connolly…and while that’s what he may have believed, the Kaiser wasn’t known for providing U-Boat cruises around Ireland, unless he saw an advantage…he also facilitated Lenin’s return to Russia, for much the same reason…

Seano – Well you certainly seem to go out of your way to be insulted…I’ve never been in said RAF club, but I imagine it mirrors some republican drinking establishments where the host country is insulted, and they sing their own songs…unpleasant but fairly harmless…a bit like your good self!!!

Dano in typical fashion fails to answer the question by ancavker on those who died fighting British tyranny in Ireland (800yrs.of it). I remember been in the RAF club in Dublin (one Christmas eve) and listening to the anti Irish rhetoric and the laughter from vulgar Irish jokes and toasting the Queen. Not one word of respect from them of Ireland the country which they lived in and earned a living in. I was at a ceremony on Nov.11 some tears ago at a second world war site in Inchicore and they played 'GOD save the Queen" and did not play the Irish anthem which is the protocol standard. The "Salvation Army" displayed the "Union Jack" in their temples and did not display the "Tricolor" until they received a visit from the IRA. They decided then to display both. So Dano you can crawl back up on your Moses mountain and consider why some people may be a little suspicious of you west Brits.

IrelandNorth: " the lumpen proletariat of respective European imperial powers". That's good--you been reading Lenin recently? As the martyred Connolly put it (slain by men wearing the British Army uniform and firing British Army guns) "We serve neither King nor Kaiser". Of course we have our own lumpen element on this site--Lumpen Loonsigh, for example!

ancavker – You may prefer that these men remain airbrushed out of Irish history…as they were for so many years…but now that the Irish National War Memorial Gardens has been properly refurbished, after years of disgraceful neglect, and the memorial at Messines is complete, these long-forgotten men now have fitting memorials…just like all the other soldiers that helped to defeat tyranny in two world wars.

Dan: Nobody knows what would have happened is true, but many historians have made reasonable scenarios as to what Europe would have looked like had Germany won. And most were in agreement that England would have kept her empire, including Ireland. Of course people die in wars, I do not dispute that. What I do dispute is the fact that you and others believe that it was perfectly justifiable for Irish men to kill people who never harmed them. The last 35 years or so has been a constant battle by the revisionists to raise these mens's profile and demand that they be honored, while at the same time vilifying those men and women who fought for Irish freedom. So it is Ok to kill, as long as you killed for England. If you killed for your own country than you are a thug, a gunmen, and a criminal.

ancavker – Nobody knows what would have happened if Germany had won, but you can get a flavour of how Germany dealt with defeated opponents by looking at the treaty of Brest-Litovsk…in all wars soldiers kill people who never personally harmed them…that’s how wars are won and lost…you don’t like the fact that thousands of Irishmen volunteered to fight, but that’s how it happened…vilification came later, when their efforts became an embarrassment for others….and a new narrative was needed.

Dan: Please stop with Ireland was part of the UK. Ireland was conquered, and made part of the UK. The fact remains no matter how much you try to justify it, that Irish men went out and killed people who never harmed them or their country.If Germany had one WW1, it would not have affected Ireland one way or the other. England wouls still keep her empire including Ireland.

The symbolic significance of the poppy is due to its floran resilience. It was the only thing left growing after the lumpen proletariat of respective European imperial powers were finished slaughtering each other over their social betters' global real estate hostile takeovers. As to whether the fact that the central nervous system sedative heroin derives from poppy seed inspired imperious narcotic nationalisms is open to conjecture.

KevinK – KevinK – East Poland was occupied in 1939, long before Churchill was PM. And it was Roosevelt who agreed Poland’s post-war status at the Yalta conference, against Churchill’s wishes. Read the Treaty of Non-Aggression between Germany and the Soviet Union

Seano - Congratulations on another well-argued response, NOT

Dano the son of Moses with his pearls of stupidity.

Knee - Let's make this simple - Ireland was part of the UK; The UK was in alliance with France; France was invaded by Germany; so not so different to the Pacific, except in your poor head.

Will there be a celebration of the Irish Brigade, the small but gallant band of Irish soldiers who had made the mistake of joining the British Army but who realized their stupidity and treachery when the great Roger Casement spoke to them? Knowing the Irish ruling class, I very muich doubt it. But there WILL be a celebration of those Irish fanatics among the POWs who spat at Casement and insulted a man that was worth a thousand of their low ilk.

Will this TD be getting his knickers in a twist for the 1916 100 year anniversary? Ah now sure we don't want to be offending any one! But sure go ahead and wear your Poppy!