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Irish priest says wives and mothers helped cover up sex abuse

Says they 'failed miserably to deal with the abuse of their children'


Irish priest slams wives and mothers of abused
Irish priest slams wives and mothers of abused

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A Wexford priest has said that the wives and mothers of those sexually abused by clergy men implicated the cover up of clerical abuse in Ireland.

Wives and mothers had “failed miserably to deal with the abuse of their children,” he said.

In an article in the Irish Catholic Newspaper, Fr Paddy Banville of Ferns Diocese wrote that Irish society did not want to accept the politically incorrect truth.

“A multitude of people are implicated in this cover-up.  I believe it is a significant percentage of the population.  Nobody in this once sovereign democratic republic wants to hear this,” he wrote.

Banville wrote: “there is another category of people that will match the failure of the bishops, and probably surpass it; the wives and mothers of Ireland, not exclusively wives and mothers but far too many who failed miserably to deal with the abuse of their children by other family members.”

“In time, I believe Ireland will discover that there is nothing particularly unique in the Catholic bishop’s bungling attempts to deal with clerical abuse...In fact, I believe that covering up is a typical response to child abuse right across the board, at least until very recently,” he added. 
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Extracts from Fr Paddy Banville’s article:

“In exposing abuse within the Catholic Church, we have opened the door to hell and stepped inside the front porch, and standing there in horror some have dared to peer further, into the hallway and reception areas of a very dark and unexplored house.”

“In time, I believe Ireland will discover that there is nothing particularly unique in the Catholic bishop’s bungling attempts to deal with clerical abuse...In fact, I believe that covering up is a typical response to child abuse right across the board, at least until very recently.”

“Few can accept my next point and, of course, it’s so politically incorrect to make the point, but there is another category of people that will match the failure of the bishops, and probably surpass it; the wives and mothers of Ireland, not exclusively wives and mothers but far too many who failed miserably to deal with the abuse of their children by other family members.”

“Let me conclude by adapting the words of the Taoiseach: there is no shortage of dysfunction, disconnection, elitism and narcissism in the Republic of Ireland 2011, where the rape and torture of children are downplayed or managed, to uphold instead the primacy of the family, the family name, its power, standing and reputation, and where multitudes living in our midst, have turned a blind eye: not my business!”

“We don’t know it yet, or perhaps we don’t want to know it, but in terms of child abuse the Catholic Church is holding up a mirror to Irish society.”

“This time Enda Kenny has got to go all the way and all the way is much further than the Vatican!”
 


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ROFL, supersurvivor. The Church made the Bible "canon" and IS definitely biblical. My bet is that you have never, ever read the whole Bible. Those that make that silly claim rarely have, And yes, I have read the whole Bible several times along with a Study Guide. I also did not neglect the footnotes! I have also taken many Scripture classes in my quest for certification in Pastoral Ministry. Would you care to share where the Church is not biblical??? LOL!!!
This is the last straw. I have had it with the Catholic clergy. How dare they say such things.My family reported our sons abuse and we found our family were ostracized by our community and had to leave our home. It took 27 years for the church to say sorry and the people to know we were telling the truth. They ruined our children,s lives because we didnt trust people with them.The children were never allowed to join clubs of any kind unless we were with them ,no sleep overs at friends houses or any of the of the normal things kids do.
Rome has come up with all sorts of excuses, but they are on their last legs now, the pope has said it is not that bad to abuse children, the pope said he forgave the children, they were the sinners, even mentioned age...5 to 16, they were to blame for enticing the priest to break his holy vows, now he is blaming the mothers, probably say he forgives the women too. Catholics have been completely brainwashed by Rome from day one. Yes there is abuse going on in families, but Rome is completely differant, a cult of men and women of evil who abused, beat and even killed the children and young women. I am no longer a practicing catholic, but will go into a church and feel peace when none of them are around, or can go to a favourite spot in my garden and pray, we definitly do not need these evil people who baptized babies then raped them when they reached 5, 6, or 7 yrs old. No wonder they were against contraceptives, they might not have had enough children then to abuse.
I'll add his comments to the long history of religion's abuse of women. Shamed for an imaginary crime in a mythical garden, and told by 'god' to obey the men in her life, to suffer and be still, it just HAS to be ALL HER FAULT.
Can you imagine Maggie who prays to the words of the local pastor going to the priest and telling him to stop using her son as a sexual object? No doubt many suspected some deviance from the local man in the black robe but truly believing it and getting the assertiveness to confront the man in clothe is expecting a lot for someone who knelt and received communion from the same individual. No doubt many parents feel shame and remorse for not intervening when suspecting but that does not place blame on them. We must hold the perpetrator responsible for his actions. He was a man with power and control over the flock and treated children like a possession to do as we wished. All is religious training, bible reading and codes of ethics were tossed aside to satisfy his carnal interests and then he threatened pain, suffering and death if the victim spoke of his actions. The Catholic Church and it's leaders must obey the nations laws if not their own, and be punished for their actions, like others.
by mid sixtiesMy friends mother had 9 children her husband kicked hell out of her, she went to her local p.p. who told her to go home and be a good wife. roll on mid eighties I was in similar and told the same but only when in 99 he nearly killed me and I was in hospital for 3 weeks did the community react, I had gone to the Gardai 6 months previous I wasnt battered or bruised enough. Terrified for my 2 children went to p.p. told the same. Holy catholic Irelad.
Typical Catholic ploy - try a distraction, blame someone else. The Catholic church raped over 100,000 children worldwide and covered it up, then lied about it. Now they try to blame others for it. Who would do that - Christ or the Anti-Christ?
Why is Fr. Banville indicting mothers? My guess is that he is losing his struggle with his own conscience and trying to find a way to remain a priest in an institution that has practiced and concealed the abuse of children for generations, perhaps for many centuries, an institution that has successfully built up a culture of secrecy and clericalism to protect its criminals. Those criminals are Fr. Banville's confreres and colleagues and bosses (bishops). How can he justify remaining associated with a band of pedophiles and their protectors? He cannot. So he tries to spread the blame to women. It's always the woman's fault, right? Wrong, it's not plausible, neither in logic nor in morality. Women will not take the fall for the sins of men! I sympathize with Fr. Banville if he is a celibate priest and even more if he has suffered false accusations himself or felt the public shame of being associated with criminal child abusers. But he must deal with his own conscience, and not by lashing out at women. Women are not responsible for the sins of priests and bishops.
How many times has a child told their parents so and so is hurting me?? How many times has the parent told the child my father/mother/brother/uncle/grandmother would never do such a thing; so shut up and never lie about them again. How many times does a parent refuse to believe some family member is molesting? You prefer to think your child is lying than face the ugly truth; your father/brother/cousin does molest. I have known far to many cases where this has happened. So for those of you who say it is not so OH YES IT DOES HAPPEN! ! ! ! !
I'm sickened at how once again instead of sticking to the area HE belongs to, He is off shining mirrors and blaming others...all He has to do is to model self examination and self responsibility and leave the wives and mothers to do the same...Denial is a self defence mechanism, and the next best defence is blaming others!
Whether he realises or not, Father Banville has done both his own ministry, and that of his brother priests in Ireland, a very great disservice in his remarks (if accurately quoted)Of course child abuse, and indeed other damage has been inflicted on victims within the home in the past, the present,and regrettably will continue to do so. I would wish to address to Father Banville the following; in my home, where young children live, they are not abused by myself or my partner in life, my wife, so we neither of us are abusers. In the home of the family living across the way from us there are also young children, and in this case I assume that these children are not being abused by their parents, but equally I CANNOT BE ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN OF THAT FACT. In light of what I now know and understand about the extent of the activities and cover-up of Priest abusers within my church,as a parent I cannot be absolutely certain of the integrity of my Parish Priest in this regard. What I do know is that if I or the parents of the other family nearby seek to visit our local school where our kids attend, our access and time spent there is monitored. Our Parish priest on the other hand has unfettered access to the school, the classrooms, and ultimately the children within them in his role as Senior Trustee and representative of the Diocese. And he would view this access as a matter of "right" as part of his ministry. And that is the point; that Catholic Church asked for and expected to receive unquestioning trust and deference from laity, the parishoners by right of office. Father Banville seems to be in "a sulk" that this has been taken from him, and from his remarks, it would seem even now, he doesnt understand WHY??
How dare he blame the mothers and wives. If I were a husband or father I'd be taking the whip to him, priest or no priest. What a poor excuse for a man and clergyman, especially when I think of those who tickle the fancies (among other things), of mothers and other men's wives and get away with it, depending on their sexual preference of course.
@eiriamach.I'm happily married both my wife and I for 22 years with 3 kids so I speak from a position of confidence.If you have to make it clear to your spouse to be,what you expect.. the marriage is already struggling.It's BRINGING the best out of eachother is what a marriage is about.My wife hates gardening,getting gas,anything to do with a car,watching sports,and fixing things in general,all those things with a passion.She also knows I'm an expert at explaining to the kids the error of their ways and they ain't anybody's fools so you have to put up a damned good argument so they go away happy.Now if I made my wife do half that because it was only fair.I wouldn't be happy because I do that stuff better.I hate cooking my wife likes it.I can change a nappy/diaper in 20 seconds and I mind the kids on Saturday.I hate shopping with a passion.But for some reason she always hated cutting the kids toenails.So I do it.We don't do our equal share of everything it's whoever hates it the most doesn't get to to do it.Men and Women are different.They have different skills and likes and dislikes.That's the great thing about marriage.It's like having half you happy to do the stuff you each don't want to do.I'm a night bird so letting my wife go to bed at 10pm I'll hold a colicky infant up until 1am or 2am until they settle never bothered me.But don't wake me at 6am and say it's your turn.I need 6 hours sleep.Eiriamach if you expect a man ought to do all the childcare for the first year.You have never been married have ya? Because only a single women would believe that might happen.In a million years Eiriamach it still won't happen.
I wish to God the men of the cloth would just go away and just laeve the ordinary people to sort out things. I remember when my son was going to be an alter boy and i told him that if anybody touched him in any way that he felt was not right he was to open his mouth and start screaming and run and come home to me and tell me. And i remember my Mam who was of an age that you didn't say anything about the priests saying to me you can't do that. My son who was 7 said what would you do Mum. I told him I wouldn't wait for anybody I would sort it for him and that I would not allow anybody to hurt him. Times changed and parents were more aware of what was going on in the world.
I'm also feeling the hard-toned irony of the many comments I've read on this site from Gearoid4 and others who so often accuse critics of RCC authoritarianism of "relativism." As I read Fr. Banville's comment "We don’t know it yet, or perhaps we don’t want to know it, but in terms of child abuse the Catholic Church is holding up a mirror to Irish society,” I hear a priest arguing that priests and bishops were under the influence of a secular society that turned a blind eye to the evil of sexual abuse of children. If this is a common position within the Church, how can Catholics ever accuse anyone of moral relativism? Not without hypocrisy, surely. (I'm not a moral relativist. I believe we must have objective standards of right and wrong, and that there cannot be two sets of standards, one for church officials and another for others, but only one and the same for all of us.)




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