Irish American female teacher rapes 16-year-old pupil - VIDEO

Single Donald...I could care less what you think if that is not an oxymoron...maybe just moron...eiriamach I agree...

eiramach, Lesson irrelevant! Lighten up, feminist!! Really, a week has past, since this thread opened. If the 3 of us keep it up, IC may delete our posts, and warn us to know when to stop!

Parallel terms: woman -- man; boy --girl; gal -- guy; female -- male. "Men" and "man" are generic only for all males, not males and females; "women" and "woman" are generic for all females. "Humanity" and a few other words include both females and males. That's the lesson for today-- easy enough, just common sense, isn't it, SingleDonald?

SingleDonald, I wince when I hear a man refer to a woman as "girl," and I want to scream when women use the term to refer to themselves!

themurphia, that is how women survive in the professions. Truth is, we're better than the men and we know it. Maybe it's because we come up the hard way, and maybe we're just naturally better! (How's that for chauvinism?) In tough spots we survive because the men (still mostly men!) with power know we are good at what we do, so they're afraid to mess with us. There are women who "sleep their way to the top" or seduce their students or subordinates for ego boosts. Women who are good at what they do don't need that ego tripping. And I suspect that more men are sexual harassers because they do need the ego trip.

themurphia, I almost forgot. Yes, I would be interested in helping all students, male, as well as female.

themurphia,Oh, come now! Of course Germaine Greer and friends were admiring the boy, because of his sexuality/sensuality!If what you say is true, they could have been viewing an 18 year old girl! Leonardo DaVinci, incidentally, was gay. Some think that the Mona Lisa was a feminine manifestation of himself!! The term lady, is a proper reference to the female gender, one which most non feminists would readily accept. I also use "girl", along with "woman",and "gal", for women, even baby boomers. Sensible women realize that "girl", used in the generic sense, denotes youth & femininity, traits which are apparently scorned by feminists. I am okay with men being called the "guys", or even the "boys". I think your kind need to get with the program, and stop being so paranoid over harmless refrences! I never use the 5-letter "b" word, or the 4-letter "c" word. Use of THOSE should get my face slapped, but not "lady", "gal", or "girl", used in a positive, upbeat sense.

SingleDonald, did Greer produce a drawing for the art class? I won't believe it was just a gawking session! An artist is likely to do her best work when inspired by beauty. Where's that model now, when I could use some inspiration? I'm happy to know that Timothy Leary went home to outer space in the end. Surely that's where he came from! I like the old Irish custom of taking the body back to the parish where the person was born.

I prefer 'professional'...I expect no more from others that I do from myself...If women want to be taken seriously then they need to behave accordingly and stop asking for special treatment...It's a jungle out there...!The teachers I respected most were the ones who expected the most from me...and yes my students achieved better than average results because I didn't cut them any slack...!

Yeah, themurphia, sometimes I too think it's all an illusion, being a woman, a teacher, an American-- it's all posturing. I'm an imposter, and aren't we all? I envy your tough approach! In a crunch, when students make serious attempts to manipulate, that's what I do also, and while I'll do all I can to avoid a power play, I've not been known to lose one once I have no choice about it, as several admins have learned. BTW: to survive in the profession in the States, where students exercise power in course evaluations, it's necessary that students respect you and not dislike you, so I temper the academic demands with understanding. I'll bet you are a highly respected teacher and more effective than most!

Would the real eiriamach please stand up...I do not believe you are an American a woman or a teacher...!

eiriamach:Too soft...!girls have to get tough...!We know that to be considered half as good women have to work twice as hard...!Make them work...they are manipulative little minxes...another thing I share with GG...she says although she is a Feminist she doesn't like women very much I know what she means...There is a difference between aesthetic appreciation of the nude form...I have La Greer's book on the Male Nude...Leonardo also appreciated the nude male torso...and drew some of the most beautiful representations of the same...It is not the same as sexual attraction...Would you be interested in a student if you were not attracted...?I doubt it...!I think SG is missing you...Any one who refers to women as 'ladies' needs to get with the programme...

You ladies may be interested to know that I recently saw a clip on Germaine Greer. She, and other older women, were enjoying a young, nude male model, for an art class. She admitted that she and her friends were admiring his masculine features, which were just short of full adulthood. He was 18. So long as the young man wanted this, I see nothing wrong with the female audience being pleasured. After all, there is nothing wrong with women past a certain age enjoying a young male, so long as he consents, and is of legal age. eiramach, Yes, I agree with your latest take on the Oedipus Complex, but with a different slant. If I was a college instructor, I'd be happy to let the students call me ,"Donald", and be willing to see some socially, after school. I feel that would be an excellent way to have them, "be free from the overweening attachment to the dead hand of the past.."! BTW, academia, I understand, lags way behind the rest of society, concerning 1st name usage. Baby boomers on down generally accept the informal approach. I would insist in addressing a professor close to me in age, or younger, as, "Dr. Timothy", rather than , "Dr. Leary", unless he/she agreed to address me on a "Mr." basis. Never mind the far out charachter, I used as an example. Did you know that the LSD advocate was cremated, and his ashes flown into outer space, after he died?

I'll look for that program. Greer was in her glory during the so-called 'sexual revolution,' when I was young. The truth is, I feel sorry for my students because, relative to my generation ('between the pill and AIDS'), they have more difficulty in relationships. They generally suffer more from rules and fears of harmful consequences, so it's understandable that they are tempted to cross the line with teachers. It often happens that a student who struggled to get a "C" in my class (and who handed in late assignments that left me exhausted at end of term) tells me, "I really learned a lot in your class!" I know that the little she learned is still Jello in her brain, and if I took points off for late assignments, she would have a "D." She gets the "C" because I believe that, as she moves on, she will continue to develop what she learned. What she really means by "learned a lot" is that she enjoyed the class discussions, developed thinking, reading, writing skills, and gleaned some ideas to work with in the real world. That's education. When a young man makes sexual overtures, I treat it as flirting if it is not too blunt an attempt to bribe me for a better grade. Flirting is a transient behavior that I can deal with light-heartedly while still sending the message that I expect him to work for a respectable grade. Colleagues who receive fewer late assignments because, as 'teacher-in-charge' types, they enforce strict rules about due dates, are less exhausted at semester's end, but I know their class discussions do not result in as much growth. It's a trade-off that works for me.

Germaine Greer was English Prof at Warwick...I would have loved to have attended her classes on Feminism and Literature...I tried to change courses when I discovered she was teaching there...Warwick accepted me but my Alma Mater would not release me from my contract...However they did run a course called Analysis of Literary Sources by an American lecturer which I loved...I am constsntly amazed by the wisdom of my elders..now that I am less arrogant and not young enough to think I know everything...!I didn't know my father's family but my mother's family are very important to me...She would have loved that description of her father...!I was delighted to chance upon the programme last night it was so well researched and produced you might be able to catch it on the web...I think it's showing for a few more days...As I said I am a swotty geek...!However much I admire GG I doubt I would get in the tub with her...I am a repressed Catholic after all and it sort of brings us back on topic about appropriate behaviour...!