Woodlawn Heights, located approximately 10 miles from New York City, serves as the perfect locale. It caters to two distinct groups: Bronx residents and Irish immigrants. After my parents emigrated from Ireland, they raised four children in the area, which afforded me an opportunity to study both cultures.
Now, as a young man, I often contemplate my identity.
New York is my home. I find solace in its distinctive surroundings - the towering skyscrapers, the congested streets, and the collective cacophony of brakes, horns, and sirens. I attended high school on the Upper East Side. I worked for two summers at Sutton Place. I indulge in freshly-baked bagels, dirty-water hot dogs, and late-night halal food. I walk fast, I speak Spanish, and I know the best pizza on First Avenue.
(Upon request, I can also deliver a much-ballyhooed account of the New York Yankees all-time greats: Berra, DiMaggio, Gehrig, Jeter, Mantle, Mattingly, and Ruth.)
My ancestry is distinctly Irish, however. My father and my mother emigrated from Counties Leitrim and Kilkenny. They arranged yearly visits to Ireland, in an effort to immerse their children in the culture. There, I lived alongside my extended family and experienced the country’s food, music, and sport.
I always remember the breakfast that awaited my arrival from Shannon Airport -- sausages, rashers, black pudding, white pudding, fried tomatoes and brown bread. My grandmother watched from across the table as I consumed each meal.
In the weeks to follow, my cousins and I played hurling in the pitch opposite my aunt's house. We trekked through fields and purchased sweets at the nearby shops. I learned how to milk a cow at my uncle’s farm, and the sudden numbness that arrives after touching nettle leaves.
In a different part of the country, my grandfather warbled jovial tunes while he sat in his armchair and watched the news. He held out his hand to catch mine, shaking it in rhythm. When my grandmother called us in for dinner, we walked into the kitchen and sat at the table. She had prepared several pans of boxty (a regional potato pancake).
As a young man, I currently know the names of all 32 counties, the four provinces, the trademark sound of Joe Dolan, the foremost events in Irish history, the quickest route from Galway to Dublin, the times to recite the Angelus prayer, the silence of the countryside, the liveliness of the cities, the complexities of a James Joyce novel, the differences between Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael and Sinn Féin, the rainy weather, the generosity of the Irish people, and the easiest way to spot an Irishman at the beach - tall socks, white shirt and loads of sunscreen.
Yet, despite my breadth of knowledge and experience, my extended family still refer to me as a “yank,” and perhaps deservedly so.
I am neither American nor Irish. And though I sustain a connection with each culture, I am – at any given moment – prone to experience sudden disconnects from both.
The identity of Woodlawn Heights suffers invariably from the very dichotomy that defines mine. As such, it serves as the perfect locale; especially for me, and at least for now.
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.jjthings | Jun 11, 2012, 08:40 AM EDT
I wish I had been so lucky as to have two countries two grow up in & NYC!!! CAN ANYONE AT IRISH CENTRAL TELL ME WHAT BAD THING HAPPENED TO RYAN KELLY OF CELTIC THUNDER THAT HE HAS BEEN IN THE HOSPITAL FOR ABOUT A WEEK. SOMETHING HAPPENED ABOUT JUNE 3 OR 4th. AS OF YESTERDAY NO ONE CAN FIND OUT WHAT IS GOING ON & WE LOYAL FANS ARE VERY UPSET & THINKING SOMETHING CATASTROPHIC MUST HAVE HAPPENED!!! PLEASE FIND OUT & TELL US!! OR AT LEAST E=MAIL ME at 2010JWS@COMCAST.NET
Madeliene | Jun 10, 2012, 07:34 PM EDT
sorry, spelling not off, cannot type today it seems.
Madeliene | Jun 10, 2012, 07:17 PM EDT
Know just how you feel, my parents spoke Gaelic at home, and Ireland was alway's "home". We all kept to family at most ( there are a lot of us) and went to first grade with a NY Bronx brougue. Keep witing please
cybergus01 | Jun 10, 2012, 11:44 AM EDT
Bud ! right now I got a longin for your 'sweet pertater scuffle', your wonderful article probably typifies the feelins of 000.000's of Americans with Irish ancestry.....keep on 'ritin Bud......look fwd. to yer next & followin articles.......
kate the horse | Jun 10, 2012, 10:46 AM EDT
I know just how you feel - my 4 siblings and i grew up in Philadelphia, born of Irish parents (mother from Cavan, father from Tyrone). Although in fact my father was born in Philadelphia but his parent returned to Ireland when he was 2 years old. My brothers and my sister and I did not have the chance to visit Ireland as children, in the 50s that was far too expensive an enterprise. So unfortunately we never knew our grandparents and that I realize now (but didn't back then) was a very sad thing. We grew up listening to stories about Ireland and I always had a deep longing for that place. Like you I never felt quite American and yet I couldn't really claim to be Irish. Today I live in France, I have many expat Irish friends and I have an Irish passport. I've started studying the Irish language and I often go to events at the Irish College (cultural center). So you see you are not alone, there are many variations of your predicament. Things will sort themselves out with time and you'll feel at ease with your unique identity.
ancavker | Jun 07, 2012, 12:53 PM EDT
BytheBORE: Ghetto! Fat chance
Bythebay | Jun 07, 2012, 10:47 AM EDT
Irish emigrants and those in the US of Irish descent living in so called Irish ghettos like Woodlawn are having difficulty mainstreaming. Become Americans and mingle. That's why you're in the US. Otherwise you'd be living in Ireland.
ancavker | Jun 07, 2012, 10:00 AM EDT
Curitiba: Woodlawn is a wonderful place!! I no longer live there, but spend a lot of time there, and own a house there.
TayandCake | Jun 06, 2012, 08:21 PM EDT
Seanmor, you're a sound man, God bless yourself and your family :^)
jamieLM | Jun 06, 2012, 06:37 PM EDT
Bythebay is an expert on Ireland and America. If you don't believe me, just ask him/her. Mr./Ms. Know-it-all just can't resist "educating" all of us at every opportunity while usually making snide remarks about the U.S. and Americans, too. What a waste of time to read By's posts. Btw: Bythe thinks it's up to him/her to decide just who is Irish and who is not, including all of you born in Ireland. Bythe's posts show he/she is an arrogant, mean-spirited, small-minded person with lots of hang ups.
Seanmor | Jun 06, 2012, 05:51 PM EDT
Bythe: Yes, I'm a proud, loyal, law-abiding U.S. citizen. For as long as I remember, I never identified with the Souther Irish state, because my cultural heritage applies a to the whole Irish nation and all its parts. The college coures I took were under the G.I. Bill, having honorably served 4 years in the Marine Corps while still an Irish citizen. I don't know how 'mainstream' one is supposed to be, but I've been a member of the American Legion since the mid-80s and I've participated in the Memorial Day celebrations in our local village for the past 12 years. I also accompary my wife (a New England Methodist) to some events of her DAR chapter. Over my garage door, the Stars and Stripes flies high, and on either side at it, the Marine Corps banner and the Irish Tri-Color wave at a lower level. God bless America and God save Ireland, or as we say in Irish: Go mbeannaí Dia Meiriceá agus go sabháile Dia Éire.
TayandCake | Jun 06, 2012, 04:33 PM EDT
Bythebay, you are a very bitter person, you have all these hang ups about nationality and identity. You depise Irishness but yet comment daily on this website. Get a job and a life.
Bythebay | Jun 06, 2012, 01:06 PM EDT
Seanmor, that view is only one course in one US college or continuing education which you've embraced because of your inability to mainstream. You're American like it or not.
Seanmor | Jun 06, 2012, 12:52 PM EDT
Bythe: In addition to studying sociology, I also took a college course titled "American Urban Minorities", and "minorities" in this course weren't restricted to non-whites; they included all non-W.A,S.P.s and immigrants were considered the First Generation. This, according to sociologists, is how the Anglo society views the "ethnics", and I'm inclined to agree. For example, if your granddad, an Irish native, became a Boston policeman, and your father followed in his footsteps, and now you are in the Boston P.D., that makes you a 3rd geneation Boston policeman. However, I must also admit that I have first cousins, one in particular, who fiercely resemts any suggestion that she is the least bit Irish; she firmly insists that she is purely American. Would her DNA prove such a claim?
Curitiba | Jun 06, 2012, 12:45 PM EDT
Woodlawn Heights sounds like the Kilburn of America. Or is Kilburn the Woodlawn Heights of England?
Bythebay | Jun 06, 2012, 12:08 PM EDT
Those who emigrate from Ireland need to mainstream in their new chosen country. They are of that country then. They left Ireland, their choice. If people want to be Irish stay in Ireland.
NYCsheridan | Jun 06, 2012, 11:52 AM EDT
If this isn't a magnet for the silly little wonk "bythebay", I don't know what is. As for Woodlawn, it's Little Ireland. Half the population seems to be illegals, too! Well God bless 'em all. If you ever want to see a great game of Irish Football, head to the Field across from the Terminal Bar, which is the center of Irish Culture in NYC.
johnshiel | Jun 06, 2012, 10:36 AM EDT
Brendan, very good descriptions of your dual identities. Just one mistake, as I see it. Your American community does not suffer from your dual homeplaces; it clearly benefits from it.
ancavker | Jun 06, 2012, 10:27 AM EDT
Brendan: You are both, that is what you are. I am Irish born came here as a child, (Woodlawn too of course). Two of us born in Ireland, two of us born in the U.S. The U.S. born ones are back in Ireland, and the Irish born ones are still here. My wife went back to Ireland in the mid 70's around 9 or 10, and came back in her mid 20's. I wanted to go back (before the collapse and could have), she said no. She is a fluent Irish speaker, I have a few words. So as you know , a very complicated deep relationship and love for both countries. Something some posters here just do not understand. Be comfortable with who you are, we have the best of both countries and cultures and hopefully none of the negative. And anyhow it is only some of the Irish in Ireland who get hung up on who is and who is not Irish.
merefalow | Jun 06, 2012, 10:19 AM EDT
PRETTY ELOQUENT EXPLANATION,not a lot of heart there boyo,most irish who are second third generation where ever we wash up still regard ourselves as irish,its a state of mind ,of heart and feel and music and it just is,you are just disconnected,which is fair enough,your choice,me i would still be Irish if i was born on the dark side of the moon.
ancavker | Jun 06, 2012, 10:15 AM EDT
bythebay: Go back to sleep, you just do not get it.
Curitiba | Jun 06, 2012, 04:24 AM EDT
Excellent post, el rubio. Couldn't have put it better myself!
BrianO | Jun 06, 2012, 01:02 AM EDT
You are American. Like most of us we like to know the story that brought our ancestors away from their home countries. most are desperate people trying their best to give their families a chance at a better life, I thank my ancestors every day for the wonderful life I have been given.
KathleenBerrio | Jun 05, 2012, 11:48 PM EDT
Goggins, dogs are mutts, not people who are of Irish American DESCENT.
Goggins | Jun 05, 2012, 10:00 PM EDT
I would like to correct myself, all of those who are mixed ethnicities, can be either. You have the choice.
Goggins | Jun 05, 2012, 09:39 PM EDT
I firmly believe that Brendan, himself is a mutt. All people who are of Irish-American decent are mutts.
irishcoffeekid | Jun 05, 2012, 08:18 PM EDT
I guess i dont get whats so confusing for you about who you are! Your parents were born and raised in Ireland so they're Irish. If you were born in NY, you're American. Its a simple case of saying you're American, your parents are Irish and you have irish heritage. I was born and raised in Ireland and moved to DC. To everyone here I'm Irish, even with US citizenship. You're American-Irish in NY, I'm Irish-American in DC. If you feel disconnected thats more about yourself, not your place of birth or homeplace. You can love both countries, don't over tax it.
el rubio | Jun 05, 2012, 07:42 PM EDT
The conception of ethnicity being different from nationality is not a novel one, although the typical citizen raised in Celtic Tiger Ireland seems to have extraordinary difficulty grasping it, at least based upon what is posted on these boards. A person could be ethnically Chinese, speak Chinese and practise Chinese religious customs, yet spend his entire life in Kuala Lumpur, Singapore, Bangkok, Sidney or New York City. Ethnic Russians abound in former Soviet block countries in Central Asia, outside the borders of Mother Russia. And the majority of Armenians live outside of Armenia, scattered throughout the world, courtesy of their own diaspora brought on by the Turkish genocide (sound familiar?). Those of us who are members of the Irish Diaspora are ethnically Irish, yet we may be born in the United States, or Canada, or Australia or Scotland or England. The denial of that heritage by those born in Ireland proper is a ludicrous concept rooted in denial of history; a postulation which seeks to reduce the idea of peoplehood to the level of 'place of birth' or whatever bits of ID a person carries when traveling abroad.
maryemoore | Jun 05, 2012, 07:25 PM EDT
In all my years of living in the Bronx I never heard that section referred to as Woodlawn Heights. Anyone I know simply refers to it as Woodlawn. Just an observation not necessarily a criticism of the article.
StevieVirginia | Jun 05, 2012, 06:09 PM EDT
My grandfather was born in Tralee in 1903. Moved to New York in 1920. Died in Maryland in 1966. In the states he was Irish-American. In Ireland he was American-Irish...what ever generation you want to call it. My Grand Dad was Irish. Case Closed.
Curitiba | Jun 05, 2012, 05:49 PM EDT
You can acquire citizenship, you can renounce citizenship, even that of the country you were born in. So being a citizen of a country is like being a member of a club, until you leave it or they chuck you out. Your ethnic identity and your ancestry is who you are and is something you can do nothing about. You can't give up being Irish and become Nigerian or Chinese just because you want to.
Curitiba | Jun 05, 2012, 04:27 PM EDT
Brendan: I was born in the UK of Mayo parents. I'm Irish. I have an Irish passport. I'm more closely related to you than I am to my proper English friends or a person with Nigerian or pakistani parents who were born in the same hospital ward as me. Being Irish is nothing to do with where you're born. If it was there would be no conflict in NI because everybody would be Irish. Being Irish is simply being a member of the extended family with the same common ancestry. That's how many cultures define themselves. Being American or British or whatever is just a legal definition, it gives you the privilege of paying taxes to somebody!
Scrivner | Jun 05, 2012, 04:14 PM EDT
Brendan, don't feel alone. Almost all Americans feel the same disconect from time-to-time. My office, in Chicago, is hard by the Indian-Pakistani area that used to be a very Jewish neighborhood with St Tim's Parish catering to a generous smattering of Irish. Mexico is to our east, Jamaica to our north, Korea to our west and what's left of Germany to our south. Immediately beyond these territories are Poland, Lithuania, China (representing several provinces), Viet Nam, Serbia, more Irish, Croatia and the Philippines. Their second and even third generations feel the same kind of identity problem. As Bythebay said, "You're American!"
Bythebay | Jun 05, 2012, 04:07 PM EDT
Seanmor, your first, second, third generation thing is a ploy used by Americans of Irish descent. Not by other immigrants to the US.
Seanmor | Jun 05, 2012, 03:53 PM EDT
ballyhip: Only once ever did I get a mark of 100 in a fiaal exam. That was in a sociology course. Immigrants who permanently settled in another country were classifiee as the First Generation, their children as 2nd generation, their grandkids as 3rd generation etc. Had I given a different numerical classifications to these various generations, I would Not have obtained 100 in this exam.
Bythebay | Jun 05, 2012, 03:24 PM EDT
You're American!
ballyhip | Jun 05, 2012, 01:47 PM EDT
As a first generation American with parents from Mayo and Roscommon, I can identify with Brendan although I am much older (b1941). We never traveled to Ireland as a family because there was no one left except 3rd cousins. All 11 on both sides of the family immigrated to England or America. I grew up in a Boston suburb where you were Irish, Italian, or Armenian. It was a wonderful melting pot of cultures, foods, and beliefs yet I always wondered whether I was more Irish than American. I satisfied my curiosity by living and working in Ireland for two years after many visits on my own and was readily accepted as a knowledgeable Yank then gradually as just K.... I treasure those years. Still, who am I? It doesn't matter because I am comfortable in either Jungian persona.
Seanmor | Jun 05, 2012, 01:40 PM EDT
casua: I once attended a mass said in Irish at St. Barnabas, which was arranged by the Bronx Gaelic League. At that time - the mid-80s - the Gaelic League held their language classes, céilís and meetings at the Presbyterin Church hall. The same hall was also availible to Irish dancing teachers and bagpipers by the permission of the Presbyterian minister who was a Belfast native. Speaking of Americans, Woodlawn has a seldom noticed memorial to a few Native Americans who were killed by British soldiers in th Revolutionary War. People of the Native tribes can truly claim to be more American that anyone of European or Afican blood, because Native Americans lived within these shores for 10,000 years before the foreigners setrtled here.
casualMBA | Jun 05, 2012, 12:03 PM EDT
Brendan, St. Barnabas also has Masses in Italian. Feeling betwixt and between? Try livin' through a divorce. May find yourself with a case of identity, particularly when you visit (R.I.P.) your grandmother's grave in Ireland(to gather identity.)
oTuachair | Jun 05, 2012, 11:47 AM EDT
The American culture is an amalgamation of many different cultures, combined with our unique history, to form a distictly American identity. I'm always very careful to say I'm an American, and my ancestors were Irish. When I'm in Ireland, I realize how American I am, and when I'm home in the USA, I feel a strong connection to my Irish ancestry.
ambidexter | Jun 05, 2012, 11:28 AM EDT
Seanmor, I find defining myself very easy. I am an American of Irish decent. My Blood is Irish, My People are Americans. I grew up in the Bronx in the 70's on the Aqueduct and my Neighborhood was mostly Irish (A Lot went back)or Americans. The difference was noted between the two back then. It has become popular to be a Hyphenated American once again. I am not. I am an American who is proud of where my Old ones came from and the culture they had that also has made up much of the American culture. My Fathers parents were born here in NYC. My Mothers Parents , Grandparents and Great Grand Parents were Born here in NYC. I am back home here in New York City. I would like to visit Ireland one day but it would not be going home.
Seanmor | Jun 05, 2012, 11:06 AM EDT
Defining oneself is not very simple, and the same is largerly true of the term "American". What is the litmus test for one's identity? Is it based on place of birth, country of citizenship or DNA? As a London-born, Irish-raised, U.S. citizen, I have Irish DNA that probably reaches back for melllennia. My nationality applies to the whole Irish nation, never confined to the part misgoverned by the Dáil. Brendan's ability to nname Ireland's 32 counties sets him apart from many of his age group in the Southern Irish state, who have been thought that the Six-Counties are foreign territory. As I read of Brendan's naming the Sinn Féin party, I was reminded of Gerry Adam' first visit to NYC (early 90s). I went to Gaelic Park, accompanied by my future wife (a Woodlawn Methodist), to see the Sinn Féin leader. Still a Methodist, my wife is now Regent of her DAR chapter - having had ancestors on both sided who fought the British in the the Revolutionry War. My strongest claims to Americanism include my 4 years of honorable service in the Marine Corps and my 25-year membership in Americanism Legion. Tá Gaeilge mheasartha agam y puedo hablar un poco espanol tambien.
fmurray515 | Jun 05, 2012, 10:48 AM EDT
Hey Brendan, I grew up in Woodlawn as well with my parents being from Ireland. I went to Ireland very often. Know enough about my parents homes. I also call it going home whenever I visit Ireland. However, I am an American of Irish descent. Be proud. So what are you then?
christilcaugh | Jun 05, 2012, 09:58 AM EDT
I am jealous of someone like you who visits Ireland that often to Ireland. And I am only an Irish descendant here in the States. (?)
handsome68 | Jun 05, 2012, 09:49 AM EDT
Young writer writes, "I am neither American nor Irish. ... ." I experienced a lot of that disconnect as well, growing up as my sibs and I did with parents who emigrated from Co. Leitrim to Brooklyn a few years before WWII. In 1946 Dad was offered a job with Mom's brother in Helena Montana, and we were the only two "Irish" families in town. I sure felt Irish anyway, what with all the talk parents did about Ireland. Dad didn't like Montana winters, or so the story goes, so we relocated back to (Highbridge, the Bronx). Talk about culture shock; I saw therapists for years after. Anyway, hang in there, young fella. God has a plan for your life; trust God; , and it is better than you think.