Hitler’s secret plans to invade Ireland revealed in new document
'Operation Sea Lion' mapped areas for invasion and attack in Ireland
Published Thursday, September 27, 2012, 7:31 AM
Updated Thursday, September 27, 2012, 4:26 PM
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curtisjohnson | Sep 28, 2012, 03:38 PM EDT
@towntroll - remind me when the british terror state gave the indigenous Irish a vote for autonomy? Was it when they were still being forced to pay tithes to the anglican "Church" during the famine.
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curtisjohnson | Sep 28, 2012, 03:35 PM EDT
Despite begin a tiny divided nation with little to no natural resources, Ireland has been stable politically and is one of the few post-colonial nations that has been able to create a stable democracy (paricularly given its proximity to a much largery and hostile neighbor). This is in contrast to the british terror state, which had/has its own severe fiscal problems despite centuries of global resource theft and nation mugging (including having to be bailed out by the IMF in the 1970s). Ireland's current problems stem from anglo inspired materialsm and its decision to bail out the creditors of trans-national banks.
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curtisjohnson | Sep 28, 2012, 03:28 PM EDT
Yeah, calms down townroll. "bought Peace and democratic self-determination to Ireland and left them free to hack themselves to pieces afterwards" comedy gold!
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hunter933 | Sep 28, 2012, 10:24 AM EDT
"Once secret"? Where and when?
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ancavker | Sep 28, 2012, 10:09 AM EDT
Towngate: Give it a rest child. The rising was not popular at the time, we all know that. But the leaders hoped it would galvvanize the irish people to fight for what they were entitled to. And the rest as they say is history. By the way, the American Revolution had little popular support either. Do you advocate that the U.S. should return to English rule.
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Jacob | Sep 28, 2012, 09:45 AM EDT
So, IrelandNorth, I take it from your comment that it is your position that Scotland was not bombed by Germany during the Second World War, and therefore Scotland was neutral in that war. Kiss your credibility goodbye. Scottish cities were heavily bombed by the Germans, and Scotland contributed massively in soldiers and in industrial production in support of the war effort. Where do you get the idea you can just make history up to support whatever nonsense is in your head at the moment?
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IrelandNorth | Sep 28, 2012, 06:52 AM EDT
Two books: "Between Green and Red" (about the enigmatic Irish republican socialist - Prionsias O Riain/Frank Ryan - and Maurice Walshe's "In Defence of Ireland: Irish Military Intelligence (G2), 1918-45", treat of this period in detail. If Scotland wasn't neutral and at war with Germany, how come the Luftwaffe didn't blietzkrieg them as she did England and major English cities? Ask the Irish of a right to declare independence from a democratically challenged kingdom. Imperialists handle rejection very badly, like a controlling spouse. The Act of Settlement, 1776 united (sic) the kingdoms of England and Scotland. That's not 500 years ago! Factual inaccuracy? Intensity of nationality is prediacted by socio-economic class. When Maggie Thatcher banged the jingoistic drum of British nationalism re the Malvinas islands, it wasn't Eton or Harrow, Oxford of Cambridge material which answered the call. When Pearse and Connolly staged their GPO gig in 1916, few Clongoes Wood Collegians or Glenstall Abbeyians - Trinitarians or National University rallyed to Amhran na bh'Fiann. Disparagers of the Irish characteristics may be projecting. Politically enlightened anywhere are usually a miniscule minority. It only takes one well aimed slingshot to lance the boil on an elephantine posterior and awaken the slumbering masses. The occupational hazard of inviting in a foreign power to dislodge another is that they often merely replace each other. Since the EU is really a Franco-Germanic collaboration, looks like John Bull is now dancing to the mainland's tune.
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Towngate | Sep 28, 2012, 06:25 AM EDT
...."yeah! - but whose side are you neutral on?!" was a well-used jibe. Despite Irelands previous collusion with Germany which led them to believe they were immune from invasion, Ireland would have fallen within hours after Britain. Ergo:- @Curtisjohnson:Britains 'terror state' victory saved Ireland from the Nazi jackboot, - and to her shame, Ireland has never thanked her for it. ...... and bought Peace and democratic self-determination to Ireland and left them free to hack themselves to pieces afterwards ... as Pearse and Connolly would surely have, if their little adventure to steal a country which was about to achieve Home rule by diplomatic and Democratic means, had succeeded. The delusional 'rising' had no support or democratic Mandate whatsoever from the Irish people, so it follows , yes, that they were trying to steal the country from the Irish People. Btw: If you study Pearses writings, you will soon realise the kind of country he intended. Possibly one far more draconian than the one Adolf Hitler had in mind! Ireland has had a lucky escape... and what has she done with it? Practiced monumental mis-management and is now struggling to exist on borrowed money which it can never hope to repay! And finally:-(Pearse was crippled by personal debt in 1916, so he might have felt at home in the Ireland of today!)
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ReturnedYank | Sep 28, 2012, 05:16 AM EDT
"Despite being officially neutral, Ireland allowed German U-Boats to operate in its waters."
You make it sound like we were "neutral" on the side of the Axis. Everyone knows were were "neutral" on the side of the Allies, who incidentally also had a plan to invade us.
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angrypaddy | Sep 28, 2012, 12:55 AM EDT
It would have been the best thing ever to happen to Ireland
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irishpjk | Sep 27, 2012, 11:54 PM EDT
wtf The Irish never seem to learn sure they could remain neutral, but what did they think would happen if Hitler invaded England. They would have two choices then join up and fight with Hitler or die, nether option sounds very neutral to me. They condemn the USA for going to war, war never is good but you must look at the alternative. Hitler ruling the world, or down the road the Russians, now it is the Muslim extremist and one day it will be China, should we stay neutral or stand up and fight?
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curtisjohnson | Sep 27, 2012, 10:01 PM EDT
"Pearse and his crew in his pathetic attempt to steal the country"
from - the british terror state?
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Rebelforce | Sep 27, 2012, 07:22 PM EDT
During World War II the belligerant countries all had contingency plans drawn up for various possible invasions. For example, Churchill had wanted to invade and occupy Norway but the Germans got wind of the plan and beat him to it.
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bobby | Sep 27, 2012, 06:48 PM EDT
Rebelforce, its not that Ireland allowed the Germans to use Irish waters. They just entered and many were sunk by the British around the Irish coast.
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