History of Ireland’s War of Independence changed by Kerry students
Kenmare transition students discover the true conclusion of the War of Independence
Published Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 8:29 AM
Updated Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 9:59 AM
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DanOLoingsigh | Jan 21, 2012, 03:30 PM EST
Seems the 'usual suspects' seek to censor posts that do not accord with their anti-democratic, 'green tinted' view of the recent past. Just because Dissidents paint themselves into a corner...doesn't mean the rest can't move on...they have!!
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seanomelbourne | Jan 20, 2012, 06:02 PM EST
Phlutiephan needs to broaden his horizons ans cease repeating his silly story of meeting some RN sailors,it's all so puerile.By the way Phlute Chavez was not in power during the NI conflict. You are full if it me boy.
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ancavker | Jan 20, 2012, 11:00 AM EST
Phlutie: 27 to 2??? What is your point?? That it was not fair?? So lets see we have th might of the British army thousands of troops available, fully armed with all of the latest weapons (at the time), full access to all military equipment, against an army of everyday people armed with whatever they could find or take from surrendered British troops or RIC. Perhaps if the British had let Collins have all the arms he tried to land in from the continent and the U.S. than the two sides could have fought a "fair war" as you say.
By the way the American revolutionaries fought the same way in many instances as the IRA in the war of independence. What a bunch of tosh to talk about "fair" when one side has all the weapons and equipment at their disposal and the other side does not.
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IrelandNorth | Jan 20, 2012, 07:19 AM EST
Who determines the temperature of blood spilt during war, PhlutiePhan? I'm picking up a little political paranoic static on my radio transceiver from your commie-phobia. Re. your Anglo-American naval colleagues in the Med. British military couldn't be killed if they weren't in any part of Ireland, a basic historical fact Tory Britain seems incapable of understanding due to imperial ego.
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Johnnyclash | Jan 20, 2012, 12:23 AM EST
Good girl young Cooper, and three cheers for the Shinners.
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conorpatrick | Jan 19, 2012, 04:37 PM EST
You know you Americans think too much about socialism - you still scared that there are reds under the beds? Look at your country and the property bust - and the poverty - I suppose socialism is to blame for that - as for China, don't get me started.
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GeorgeDillon | Jan 19, 2012, 02:28 PM EST
Phutiephan: What is your stupid anecdote supposed to prove? To me it's just foolish nonsense. If you thought killing was so bad how come you enlisted in the Armed Forces? If you were a pacifist I'd take what you wrote with respect, but nowhere do you state that the belief in war and violence which you held while in the Navy has been shed.
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cillowen | Jan 18, 2012, 11:03 PM EST
the socialist wavings of a lunatic is what phan's about. needing to put a momma's UKers stretch from back then till now.
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PhlutiePhan | Jan 18, 2012, 07:43 PM EST
Let's do some basic math here. Twenty-seven to two is still 13.5 to 1 which is way above a 10 to 1 ratio. The Brits were massacred by a group who knew that the war was already over and just waiting for the "ink to dry". I say this as an Irish-American Navy veteran with an Irish grandmother with a third grade education whose mother came over during "The Troubles" and whose father had left because he shot and killed a "Black and Tan". While in the Navy, I did training in the Med with two Brits on anti-submarine warfare on board ship. One would not talk because he had two brothers killed on duty in Ireland. The other made it clear that the Brits wanted out but couldn't turn over Ireland to a socialist takeover in the vision of Gerry Adams and Hugo Chavez and their Iranian suppliers of bombs and munitions by way of China. Look at reality.
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sirpeter | Jan 18, 2012, 01:10 PM EST
@carrickcourt.What is really interesting about that letter is the disassociating himself,the policemen & soldiers from the local population by stating that nobody was safe.Of course the locals were safe from the Sinn Féiners.But the locals were not safe from the policemen & soldiers.In that sense nobody was safe.They were all in a very disturbed State.
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GeorgeDillon | Jan 18, 2012, 12:19 PM EST
That's interestng, carrickcourt. And a little surprising, since Monaghan was one of the least militant counties during the Irish War of Independence. I guess your family was of the Unionist tradition?
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carrickcourt | Jan 18, 2012, 09:42 AM EST
I have a bit of family history from these times, a 20 Feb 1921 letter to a great uncle here in the USA from a cousin in Ireland who ran the Coolderry Post Office in the Magheracloone Civil Parish in Co. Monaghan , '...this country is in a very disturbed State with Sinn Finers raiding for fire arms & shooting policemen & soldiers in fact no one is safe. ... I was raided with armed men with blackened faces but they got no arms as I had them left(?) by safe....'.
Letter written by Samuel David Babington
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