Michelle Obama’s original Irish ancestor has been traced and named as Andrew Shields, an Irish immigrant who fought in the American Revolution as a Georgia resident.
Andrew Shields was Michelle Obama’s great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather and his family was slave owners.
Michelle Obama’s great-great-great-grandmother Melvinia was a slave who had children by Charles Shields, grandson of Andrew Shields, the Times reveals.
One of those children, Dolphus Shields, born in 1859, was Michelle Obama’s direct ancestor.
It is not known in Ireland where the Shields came from but it was likely Northern Ireland as the family was Protestant and there was considerable Scots Irish emigration to the American south at the time.
This article in The Times is adapted from “American Tapestry: The Story of the Black, White and Multiracial Ancestors of Michelle Obama” by Rachel L. Swarns, a new book due out this week. Swarns used DNA technology to prove the links.
The book traces dozens of white relatives of Michelle Obama, none of whom knew of their connection through slavery to the First Lady.
Most were shocked to learn the connection and hoped that the Shields-Melvinia relationship was not one of rape and coercion but love.
"You really don’t like to face this kind of thing,” said Mrs. Joan Tribble, whose ancestors owned the First Lady’s great-great-great-grandmother.
“To me, it’s an obvious love story that was hard for the South to accept back then,” said Aliene Shields, a descendant who now lives in South Carolina, pointing to the fact that they had several children together.
Melvinia was just 15 when she gave birth to Dolphus in 1859. She was an illiterate woman who was confined to work in the fields by the Shields family.
The Times first reported the Irish link to Michelle in 2009.
Megan Smolenyak, the same genealogist who discovered that President Obama’s Irish roots go back to Moneygall in County Offaly, has discovered that Michelle Obama's family tree has a large Irish branch.
Smolenyak traced Michelle's heritage back to the young slave girl Melvinia Shields, who was once traded for $475.
Melvinia became the property of Henry Shields in 1852.
Smolenyak said the young girl still haunted her. "It's still jarring to see dollar signs associated with human beings," she said.
Michelle's Irish roots were one of the major findings in Smolenyak's research. Smolenyak spent nine months researching the First Lady's family tree in conjunction with The New York Times.
Smolenyak began the project just before Obama was named president and she said she hoped that her discovery will please the First Lady.
"The vast majority of people are happy when their heritage is just kind of handed to them," she said. "She's got a really rich ancestry. This would be my fantasy: that she's clicking [on the Web site] through all the branches of her family tree, sitting there with Sasha and Malia and Marian Robinson, and I hope they're pleased."
In 2007, Smolenyak found out where in Ireland Obama’s family came from after tracing Obama’s third great-grandfather on his mother’s side, Fulmoth Kearney, who journeyed from Moneygall in County Offaly to the U.S.
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.IrishSAR | Oct 12, 2012, 02:14 PM EDT
I know I'm late to posting since I just saw this story for the first time...and today couldn't be a better time.. Today happens to be the anniversary of the first slaves brought to America...you know, the 60000 IRISH brought to the Bahamas in 1656 by Cromwell and the 500000 IRISH in Virginia and surrounding areas also by Cromwell. This pales in comparison to Africans since 560000 represents about 1/4 of the complete Irish population at the time. Compare that to the 6000000 total African slaves brought to the US, 12 million African slaves total and the US got 6.45% of that. I'm ashamed of Irish Central for not remembering it's own history
joanxis | Jul 04, 2012, 10:13 PM EDT
Jeez Briano, I know lots of people who drank and/or did drugs in school and most of them turned out just fine. I doubt that the president did a lot of that kind of partying. I haven't read his book yet. Have you read it or did someone else tell you that that's what it said. Did you ever drink, do drugs or do anything that you wish you hadn't done when you were young? People do grow up and see the error of their ways, you know.
Bythebay | Jun 30, 2012, 09:21 AM EDT
mousemess, Adams learned Irish while in prison and speaks the prison version of it. he never finished second level. He's a phony, using his so-called Irishness for terrorism and bigotry against other religions.
McNamara31 | Jun 28, 2012, 12:01 AM EDT
BrianO Google what his professors at Harvard had to say.All of them remarked at his focus and hard work.
BrianO | Jun 27, 2012, 11:38 PM EDT
@McNamara31, What "made" in self made is Obama? I think you are correct a rich father can get a son into an ivy league school, how does a non rich man's son get into an ivy league school, especially when he is non motivated, drinking and doing drugs( again as stated in his book) I don't know. It logically doesn't make sense. Please since I am slow and dim witted, could you piece together Obama's accomplishments that allowed him to ascend through the private high school, occidental college, columbia, and harvard, there must be some GPA's, thesis papers, honor projects, etc.,thanks. cheers.
McNamara31 | Jun 27, 2012, 02:03 PM EDT
BrianO To anyone who bases reality on facts ..Both the Obama's are self made people quite in the mold of our Irish ancestors who achieved the "American Dream". You choose to believe all the smears of the FOX, Karl Rove prop machine; and that is your choice. It’s true many of America’s politicians dabbled with drugs in their youth however; to answer the question about past presidents getting into Ivy League schools (Yale) and (Harvard Business) with a history of drugs or alcohol abuse (and arrests for GWB by age 20) its helps to be the “fortunate son” of a wealthy man time and time again. I’ll take a self made man over wealth and privilege…history shows what that got us.
BrianO | Jun 27, 2012, 08:36 AM EDT
Mousemess, Lying doesn't make things true, the Obama's have not shown their credentials, how does one go through high school drunk and on drugs ( dreams of my father) but get into Columbia? How does one become the editor of the harvard law review but write no articles? And gie me all the accomplishments Elizabeth Warren has for the people of Massachusett, she can't even pronounce HAMMERED correctly. Go pedal your zombie mindless democratic drivel to some one that is less naive.
Mousemess | Jun 27, 2012, 01:01 AM EDT
MegK, His records and credentials are instantly known to anyone who know how to use Google. So sorry you don't know how to search for information.
Mousemess | Jun 27, 2012, 12:52 AM EDT
Bythebay, Scriobhann Gearoid MacAdhamh i nGaeilge. Ta Gaeilge aige ar a laghad. At least Gerry Adams speaks Irish fluently and he authors books in the language.
Mousemess | Jun 27, 2012, 12:43 AM EDT
Jimsales74, Life under Obama is preferable to a future life under Romney the job outsourcer.
Mousemess | Jun 27, 2012, 12:35 AM EDT
Briano, The Obamas have amply proven their scolastic and professional worth and need not to prove anything more to either you or the Donald Trumps of the world.
Mousemess | Jun 27, 2012, 12:26 AM EDT
Briano Ni ardoigh Elizabeth Warren fiacha go huafasach ar daltai colaiste ar a laghad i gcomparaid le Scott Brown. At least Elizabeth Warren will not be raising fees horribly on college students compared to Scott Brown.
seanomelb | Jun 21, 2012, 07:15 PM EDT
Quite the contrary Briano I try to balance my posts to offset the racists comments by your pals on IC
BrianO | Jun 21, 2012, 02:30 PM EDT
Seano, you seem to be occupied by skin color, Like the way you were afraid you might have insulted Mac31 (huh?). You know the obama's are the smartest by their schools records---(punahao high school?,occidental university? to columbia? to harvard?) GPA's, thesis papers, articles written when he was on the harvard law review? I'd like to be swayed so if you could pass along some of that information I could be enlightened.
seanomelb | Jun 20, 2012, 08:54 PM EDT
by the way isn't grand that the USA have the smartest president and first lady in history and they are both black.Now that just needles the bigoted Fox/GOP!!
seanomelb | Jun 20, 2012, 08:51 PM EDT
Briano I couldn't give a rats what colour Adam and Eve were ,it's only your GOP mob who have the problem with colour. My remarks were meant to be taken with a hint of mirth.maryosullivan I only drink when I'm thirsty and your horse sh#t really dries the lips.
Bythebay | Jun 20, 2012, 02:42 PM EDT
maryosullivan, You've broad brushed people in Northern Ireland UK without any basis whatsoever except bias. The Northern Ireland UK census lists Irish, Northern Irish and British as three separate identities - the 2001 census found 70% agreed with being called British whilst 28% were against being called British. Whilst 65% of the population agreed with being called Irish and 33% disagreed with being called Irish. 78% agreed with being called Northern Irish and 22% disagreed. Also you should be aware only 7% of the people of Northern Ireland in a recent poll supported a United Ireland. That's 93% of Northern Ireland UK favoring remaining part of the United Kingdom. Those AREN'T your Brit nationalists either. So grow up and stop repeating falsehoods.
maryosullivan | Jun 20, 2012, 02:28 PM EDT
Seanomelb, Have a few more drinks, it might help you overcome your distraught state
Bythebay | Jun 20, 2012, 01:18 PM EDT
EphraimKibbey, as an American with Irish, Hessen, Welsh, Dutch and English ancestors you can call yourself whatever you want. Just don't include in your WE me or the people of Ireland.
Bythebay | Jun 20, 2012, 12:59 PM EDT
EphraimKibbey, you need Scotland primary sources, not the US. You in the US can't even understand Northern Ireland UK and Ireland are two different countries. Visit Scotland and find out.
Springfield9 | Jun 20, 2012, 12:20 PM EDT
THis has all the value of a late night Pub Exchange. I don't know a single person who cares that MIchelle's GGG Grandmother was diddled by Squire Shields. 1 in every 5 American Southerners has some African genes - I wonder where they came from. Last but not least, let's not forget the FIRST slaves were the Barbados Irish.
BrianO | Jun 20, 2012, 09:21 AM EDT
Seano just having fun with ethnic backgrounds and jumping to conclusions at how somebody else would react to such statements, very illuminating post. Gives real insight on how the left has no regard for truth.
seanomelb | Jun 20, 2012, 02:03 AM EDT
HI mac31 just having fun with your black Adam and Eve and the response the evangelicals would probably have.
seanomelb | Jun 19, 2012, 10:26 PM EDT
Mac31-Huh?
seanomelb | Jun 19, 2012, 08:02 PM EDT
Maryosullivan your answer is abysmal and without merit.Macnamara31 are you informing the crazy southern evangelist that they have black blood running through their bigoted veins OMG what is world coming to.They've tricked you Mac they are creationist and don't accept your scientific truth.
McNamara31 | Jun 19, 2012, 04:03 PM EDT
BrianO....Your perceptions can limit you far more than your ethnic background.
BrianO | Jun 19, 2012, 02:30 PM EDT
thanks mcnamara I'll apply for affirmative action tomorrow. maybe I can get into harvard like chief Elizabeth Warren
EphraimKibbey | Jun 19, 2012, 02:14 PM EDT
@Bythebay - Actually I've read a good bit about Scotland but I thought the links would be a quick and easy way for you to check the veracity of my points. And, yes, I have been there as my wife's side stems from several clans. Our kids are REALLY of Scots-Irish parentage.
RedBranch | Jun 19, 2012, 12:17 PM EDT
You may try good citizen, but the class you are attempting to inform did not arrive by the normal recognized channels and carry with them baggage that will refute science, fact & logic. But persevere with my best wishes...
citizen69 | Jun 19, 2012, 11:38 AM EDT
@OMuireain: Also, the Pale was Dublin & it's surrounding area, not Northern Ireland or Ulster. The Pale was run by Anglo-Irish not Scots-Irish.
citizen69 | Jun 19, 2012, 11:31 AM EDT
@OMuireain: The myth that the Scots-Irish are descended from Saxons & Normans has been totally shot down by modern genetic DNA mapping. The main ancestor by far of the Lowlander, and indeed the Highlander was the indigenous neolithic settlers who first inhabited what is now Scotland. In fact these people are also the main ancestors of the Irish as the first human settlements in Ireland were people from Scotland who migrated over to today's Co. Antrim and Co. Londonderry.
Bythebay | Jun 19, 2012, 11:02 AM EDT
The assumptions O'Dowd makes are myopic and totally ignorant of Ireland. Protestants were everywhere in Ireland. Another erroneous assumption is those in Georgia and elsewhere in the southern part of what was to become the US were all Protestant. Very poor journalism.
Bythebay | Jun 19, 2012, 10:50 AM EDT
EphraimKibbey, you and others in the US rely too heavily on online links for your history information and are sorely misinformed. Get real. Study real Scottish history, you may actually learn something. No doubt you've never even been near Scotland.
McNamara31 | Jun 19, 2012, 10:23 AM EDT
Murph46...The people of Moneygall would love to have her and her husband back. Have you ever been to Moneygall or Roscrea or any town near this president's visit? If you had you would realize Moneygall loved the visit and especially Mrs. Obama.
Murph46 | Jun 18, 2012, 10:42 PM EDT
Will she be flyin to Moneygall (or wherever )to sip a pint and court Irish American (eejit) votes?
McNamara31 | Jun 18, 2012, 08:18 PM EDT
@pappy164 …You are right. Barrack Obama is viewed as the first multi racial president elected, however the same African blood that runs through Mr. and Mrs. Obama's veins is the same African blood that runs through every single human inhabitant in the world. The Tishkoff Genetic Study recently confirmed once again that there is NO doubt that approximately 200,000 years ago the human race had its origins in Africa. The true "Adam and Eve" were Black. This fact has been widely accepted in the scientific community and should make us all realize we came from one source, and from one place, Africa. We are far more similar than different.
OMuireain | Jun 18, 2012, 05:29 PM EDT
Nial there is no such ethnic group named "Scots-Irish". After the Brits defeated the Scot king, they sent in people of Norman and Saxon descent to occupy the low lands of Scotland. The Highland Gaels called these people "Sassanachs [sic]. These Low-Landers, then in the 1600's went to Northern Ireland and where occupiers of the "Pale" after the O'Nialls and the like surrendered to the Brit, accepting the Church of England. STOP USING THIS TERM.
bob40wil | Jun 18, 2012, 05:22 PM EDT
It sounds like everyone whoever walked this earth has Irish in them, My grteat grand parents came fro Ireland in the 1800's and never looked back, growing up we never had singing of Irish tunes or wishes to go back to the Old Sod, they left because Ireland sucked at the time and they were desperatly poor and their future was not very rosey, dare I say even in doubt. I'm a person of Irish cecent, American with out hypenation.
BrianO | Jun 18, 2012, 04:19 PM EDT
Irish central making sure Michelle gets her street cred, since her husband is the son of a Kenyan father which means his descendants weren't done for the struggle.
citizen69 | Jun 18, 2012, 02:07 PM EDT
I'm sure the bigots here who claim that this slave owning family is not Irish or "one of our own" simply because they are Protestant are probably the same people who celebrated and claimed Barrack O'Bama (sic) as one of their own when his Irish heritage was uncovered, even though they were Protestants too! As were almost all the ancestors of the 20 US Presidents with Irish roots...
RedBranch | Jun 18, 2012, 01:30 PM EDT
Oh where are you Jimmy the Greek?
Nicomax | Jun 18, 2012, 01:15 PM EDT
Mixing of races in the US? Proof of such can be seen on our professional basketball teams today. American-born players, for the most part, are much lighter than those who come from Africa, where very little mixing has taken place. The great migration from East to West across North America brought about a lot of mixing, all to our good fortune.
Springfield9 | Jun 18, 2012, 11:29 AM EDT
This whole story is laboratory grade crap. Slaves in the 18th and 19th Century were looked upon as sub-human. If the "Irish" owner was involved tell me how we know that. There was never any documentation of the parentage for slaves - there was only a 1 added to the count.
maryosullivan | Jun 18, 2012, 09:19 AM EDT
Seanomelb; May I suggest you approach any brit loyalist in the North and suggest he is Irish and let us know the response
pappy164 | Jun 18, 2012, 07:55 AM EDT
Ummmmm just to remind everyone Barack Hussein Obama is NOT a Back man! He is only Half black. He is also half White.
pappy164 | Jun 18, 2012, 07:49 AM EDT
@Jimsales74 Wow you are out of your feckin' mind.
Esmeralda | Jun 18, 2012, 05:50 AM EDT
I find Smolenyak's words eerie and disturbing: This would be my fantasy: that she's clicking [on the Web site] through all the branches of her family tree, sitting there with Sasha and Malia and Marian Robinson, and I hope they're pleased." The First Lady's ancestry is rich on her Afro-American side first of all, it is this ancestry that has made her the extraordinarily intelligent woman she is.Please read Toni Morrison's novel "Mercy" about how female slaves of African origin were treated by their white male owners.Much of this unjust treatment is the basis to today's social problems and creation of the Afro-American underclass. Afro-american males are the most delinquent and most frequent users of drugs, filling the prisons of America.Afro-American girls are the minority with most teenage pregnancies. The Irish people are a great people, but I don't think you can be proud of having had slave-owners amongst you, even if they are related to the First Lady.
seanomelb | Jun 18, 2012, 03:08 AM EDT
tsk! TSK! maryosullivan your knowledge of Irish history is abysmal to the point of ignorance.
EphraimKibbey | Jun 18, 2012, 12:55 AM EDT
@Bythebay - sorry, the links won't post.
EphraimKibbey | Jun 18, 2012, 12:49 AM EDT
@Bythebay - here are the links: 1. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/highlands_and_islands/7976510.stm 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Scotland 3. http://www.islandguide.co.uk/history/scotti.htm 4. http://halfmoon.tripod.com/pict2.html
EphraimKibbey | Jun 18, 2012, 12:33 AM EDT
@Bythebay - The origin stories of the Scots tell of the invasion from Antrim in Ireland into Dalriada in Scotland and the intermarriage with the indiginous Pics. Often invaders are male and take captured royal native brides. The Pictish royal line was passed maternally so sons of the celtic invaders had legitimate claims to rule the Pics. The story was called into question in the 70's when some Scots started digging in their dirt and found that cultural sites showed little change during that time period. Also the only existant written versions were from the 10th century. More recently DNA has been used to show that the Origin Stories of the Scottish nation were probably correct and the celtic influence there came from an Irish invasion. I do not know if these links will post as I have seen some here complain that the moderators have stripped out their links. I just now visited them and came away without attack so I believe them to be safe if you wish sources for the above. If you do not wish to use them simply google the subject or check out a book on ancient Scottish history. If you want justification for keeping the peoples of the two lands as separate, the Scotti in Ireland never intermarried with the Pics as did those in Scotland so the Scots are of Irish decent but not Irish.
Jimsales74 | Jun 18, 2012, 12:22 AM EDT
I don't give a dam where her G-G-G-G-G Grandfather came from. The important thing here is what they are doing to America NOW. The power hungry Obama is erasing the Bill of Rights. In his latest disregard for the system of checks and balances, and Congressional oversight he has decreed that all Illegal immigrant kids are now in no danger of deportation. A few months ago, he stated that he was powerless over Congress in this regard. His indifferent detention mandate under the NDAA is clearly unconstitutional. His Executive order that gives the Government the power to takeover everything under the pretense of national security is anathema to any idea of democracy. God help us if this megalomaniac is elected to a second term. I am not alone in my fear that if he should be reelected, he will declare himself Emperor. Think that's nuts? Look at his executive orders, look at the ways that he has transferred power to the executive branch. And please, do so before you fire-off your knee-jerk rebuttals!
BrianO | Jun 17, 2012, 11:54 PM EDT
Title of article " michele obama's irish slave owner's roots are revealed" who inserted race and slavery into the discussion? Sometimes I feel like I'm talking to two year olds.
BrianO | Jun 17, 2012, 11:14 PM EDT
pilib04, such insightful comments really add to the fabric of life. Don't research information just accept things as spoon fed to you and then make accusations, very progressive
goldenblade | Jun 17, 2012, 10:20 PM EDT
I bet quite a few here hanker for the good ole days of slavery. This is so entertaining!
LilPaddy | Jun 17, 2012, 10:13 PM EDT
Hey Skibberrean, you said it all for me!! I'm at (if you put this togeather) pat.doran @ sbcglobal. net ..I believe you may like what I've got. Paddy.
Pazuzu | Jun 17, 2012, 09:52 PM EDT
The bottom line is the Sheilds family were not our kind. This is a lame attempt by the media to pin Anglo-Protestant America's transgressions against the blacks on Irish Americans who had nothing to do with enslaving or raping Michelle Obama's female ancestor.
katieherk | Jun 17, 2012, 09:38 PM EDT
Aren't you tired of writing about the Nobamas? Well, we're tired of hearing about the family this is selling our country down the tube and how long did it take you to dig up some Irish ancestry? There's as much Irish in either one of them as could sit on a needle point! Why don't you write about the beauty of Ireland... or in other words some UPBEAT stories, not this kind of trash!! And remember.... OMG.... OBAMA MUST GO!!!
pilib04 | Jun 17, 2012, 09:22 PM EDT
llyoness555, just a bit wacko.
pilib04 | Jun 17, 2012, 09:20 PM EDT
BrianO, it's your posts that are consistently racist.
joanxis | Jun 17, 2012, 08:56 PM EDT
Ah...racism is alive and well on Irish Central as a lot of the comments below suggest. You know I don't think lyoness555 is a real person. I think she just wants attention. You notice that her comments got worse as ahe went along, esp. since no one was paying her any attention. Sorry, but I had to give her what she wants - no one can hate another person that much, esp. when you're making up stuff about Mrs. Obama. Nope - I don't think she's real.
maryosullivan | Jun 17, 2012, 08:13 PM EDT
Tsk, Tsk. if Mr Shields knew he was being referred to as Irish he would turn over in his grave.
BrianO | Jun 17, 2012, 07:34 PM EDT
EphraimKibbey, Obama support of racist theorist professeur Derrick Bell is revealing of the true Obama.
JBRAFTREE | Jun 17, 2012, 06:49 PM EDT
She has far too many working for her in the White House!!!!
Bythebay | Jun 17, 2012, 06:32 PM EDT
EphraimKibbey, your depiction of the Scots is muddled and lacks accuracy. Stick to your US history and learn that.
EphraimKibbey | Jun 17, 2012, 06:13 PM EDT
To all those arguing over Irish vs. Scots-Irish, please remember that the Scots were the first Irish diaspora. The Irish Scotii tribe attacked the Pics in what is now Scotland and took over their lands. The Scots are all of Irish descent from that stand point. The bagpipe and plaid are all ancient Irish imports to Scotland. The Scots-Irish are really Irish-Irish.
EphraimKibbey | Jun 17, 2012, 06:06 PM EDT
@Irishboy1952 - Thank You for your service to our country! Obama did bail out GM and they are paying back the loan but W bailed out the banks and "FORGOT" to require that they help those facing forclosure as a prerequisite of the deal.
EphraimKibbey | Jun 17, 2012, 06:02 PM EDT
@lyoness555 - just to ease your mind about Obama's being at Harvard and president of their Law Review, check out the video on You-Tube of him speaking at a gathering there in support of one of the black professors back then.
Skibberrean | Jun 17, 2012, 06:00 PM EDT
DITTO IRISHBOY1952!! Who really cares about Michelle Obama. Our beloved United States is falling apart thanks to her husband who is totally clueless, a fraud, a phony and a Communist. Niall, can't you find something to better to stir the pot with???
Bythebay | Jun 17, 2012, 05:57 PM EDT
So why not find out what yer man Gerry Adams ancestry is and where his English surname originated.
Irishboy1952 | Jun 17, 2012, 05:06 PM EDT
Oh, She was a Slave??? I thought they were outlawed after the CIVIL WAR??? So My Great, Great Grand Parents who were taken from Ireland and sold to people in the USA were slaves. That makes me what? Nothing. I am an American who worked his ass off, served his country as a Vet and LEO. Became disabled by a drunk driver, and when a I was losing my home to GM, was told by the Dem's to sell it, & screw you. But they Bailed out GM. Bull crap store. People are losing jobs and their homes and your writing this??? Why???
Bythebay | Jun 17, 2012, 04:56 PM EDT
wdwrkr371 = probably never graduated primary school.
wdwrkr371 | Jun 17, 2012, 04:26 PM EDT
Bythebay = Probably still lives with mom & Dad.
joeboy1 | Jun 17, 2012, 04:22 PM EDT
Obama and Michelle are about as Irish as the queen of England
Bythebay | Jun 17, 2012, 03:31 PM EDT
Adherance to the Protestant religion in Ireland also included Irish, many changed religions to keep their property or because they wanted to own property or because they wanted to marry well or because they were opposed to the Catholic Church. There was no purism in Ireland, it varied.
Bythebay | Jun 17, 2012, 03:16 PM EDT
Who cares what Michelle Obama's ancestry was??
Bythebay | Jun 17, 2012, 03:15 PM EDT
You Americans are totally clueless about surnames found in Ireland. You can't identify Irishness or lack of it by a surname at all. There were too many variables. This is why Irish Central is so stupid with their designations of so called Irish American by surname. It's ludicrous.
MegK311 | Jun 17, 2012, 02:55 PM EDT
Michelle Obama's ancestory is not important, she can be anything you want to make her to be. Irish if you want her husband to try and gain some political points with the Irish. Here are some of the questions I would like answered so that we have can move on. I don't know the answers to these questions. Forged Birth certificate issued by the White House! Multiple Social Security numbers! Sealed College records! Surrendered license to practice law! Missing birth records in Hawaii! Selective Service records sealed! Foreign Passports! Association with known Communists and subversives! Sworn testimonies by credible witnesses proving Obama was not born in America. Experts say the birth certificate he produced recently was forged. ...and the list goes on!
citizen69 | Jun 17, 2012, 02:17 PM EDT
@ellenmpuff: Because the Shield family were Protestant does not automatically make them Scots-Irish. Shield was a name found in Ireland, Scotland & England at the time. There could be at least tree scenarios... 1). They could indeed have been Scots-Irish from Ulster. 2). They could have been Anglo-Irish or 3). They could have been native Irish tat converted to Protestantism in Ireland or America. As for suggesting that Irish owning slaves is ludicrous, there were plenty of Irish catholic slave-ship owners. Antonie Walsh who purchased over 12,000 Africans to sell across the Atlantic was just one of them.
slainte9 | Jun 17, 2012, 02:01 PM EDT
I like Michelle Obama; she put green dye in the White House fountain on St. Patrick's Day. However, Shields is actually a name with roots in the Reiver border area of Scotland and England. The named is rooted in the Middle English word "shele" a temporay shed used by fishermen. North Shields is a town in North East England, so the Celtic-Scots association with Shields is dubious. Because of their martial culture Reiver settlers were chosen to pacify Northend Ireland, that really worked out well, didn't it.
bob40wil | Jun 17, 2012, 01:46 PM EDT
If Irish Cental loves the Obama's so much they should try and get them to emegrate to Ireland, I personally won't mind.
MegK311 | Jun 17, 2012, 01:41 PM EDT
I hope that Niall O'D Dowd and Rachel Swarns will now put their efforts into finding out who the real Obama is. There are a lot of Obama's records not available, lost, strayed or solen or convieniently hidden away. take your pick. Is Obama eligible to be President? that is the big question that needs to answered. That is something that the news media could really get their teeth into. Looks like Michelle is living a pretty plush life now at the tax payers expense and you want me to feel sorry for her or whatever.
lyoness555 | Jun 17, 2012, 01:38 PM EDT
MICHELE IS A RACIST . MICHELE OBAMA TOOK HERSELF AND A THOUSAND OF HER "FRIENDS" ON THE TAXPAYERS MONEY ON A TRIP WHERE THEY ALL SWILLED CHAMPAGNE AND ATE CAVIAR STAYED AT THE MOST EXPENSIVE HOTELS AND MILLIONS FOF AMERICANS ARE OUT OF WORK . MICHELE MADE THE TAXPAYERS PAY FOR A PLANE TO FLY HER DOG ON ONE OF THE MANY EXPENSIVE VACATIONS THE OBAMAS TOOK - BECAUSE MUSLIMS DO NOT TRAVEL IN SAME VEHICLE AS THE DOG DOES. THAT IS A RELIGIOUS THING . SHES - HITLER IN A DRESS
slainte9 | Jun 17, 2012, 01:34 PM EDT
Can you spell anachronism. This isn't simply a story about slavery, but also about how men and women lived their lives in times past, in a more rural isolated society than we have today. One of the reasons my grandmother and her sisters escaped to America from rural Ireland was to avoid arranged marriages, which were the norm for that isolated region then. It's romantic to think of Shields and Melvinia being in love. Maybe they were from the beginning, maybe they found love in time, or maybe they co-existed on the lonely frontier (and Georgia was very much frontier back then) like those in the arranged marriages my grandmother and sisters wanted to avoid. In Ireland money changed hands too, I suppose it should be some consolation to Melvina's descendants that Shields had to pay for her instead of the other way around -- Melvina's family having to pay (the treasure, or dowry) Shields to take her.
lyoness555 | Jun 17, 2012, 01:32 PM EDT
The Obamas have done everything in their power to HIDE Pres Obamas : SCHOOL RECORDS , etc why is it that Nobody remembers ever seeing him at Columbia University or Harvard at a class etc Nobody ever saw this sneaky con man in a class sitting next to someone etc How come he had his school records sealed ??? All the presidents have their school records on file except Obama . Whats he hiding . How does a self admitted drug user who is flunking out of HS get into Columbia University? answer- they DONT . A stupid drug user is suddenly attending an Ivy League school NO WAY . this man is a plant a puppet of puppet master George Soros who funded the Obama disaster we are now seeing . What hapened t Andrew Breitbart ? He was the journalist who was going to release the truth on Obama on a Friday an turned up dead on a thursday nite! An autopsy was performed and the doctor who was going to release findings turned up DEAD also - he was found dead - arsenic . I could go on and on but read on it and see why Lord christopher Monckton wants to have Obama investigated for FRAUD and lying about where he was born and having a phoney birth certificate. OBAMA ONE AND DONE.
goldenblade | Jun 17, 2012, 01:25 PM EDT
It's a sad fact that if Michelle Obama was white - so-called "Irish American" people on this site would not be quite so exercised. Racism is alive and well fed in the US. Most people in Ireland could not give a rat's arse about this ..... more important things to worry about!
lyoness555 | Jun 17, 2012, 01:20 PM EDT
Dream On lady - Michelle Obama is a rotten nasty piece of work . She worked with the terrorist organization "th eBlack Panthers" has made many lousey statments about America and has had her license to practice law revoked because she was doing some very questionable illegal activities . She is a racist and hates everyone who is not Black also she looks like a Sasquash in a dress! Forget that trashy nasty bitch
ellenmpuff | Jun 17, 2012, 01:16 PM EDT
In response to comments suggesting Scots-Irish are Irish, yes, both were of Celtic origin several thousands and thousands of years ago. But the Scots were, in the last few hundred years, planted in Ireland by the British to control the native population and to take the land. Mrs. Obama's ancestors were Scottish-American. Their nationality was American. Their ethnicity was Scottish. There was very limited interbreeding among the plantation Scots and the native Irish population in Ireland because of the power differential and class distinction. To suggest that her "Irish" ancestors were slave owners is ludicrous. Most of the native Irish population came to America during the famine years (1840s), not before. In fact, the native Irish population could not own land, businesses, or any property from the Penal laws onward (early 19th century).
JerryLynch | Jun 17, 2012, 12:58 PM EDT
Again, I find it curious and troubling that the press takes the time and expends the resources to vet the colorful family history of Ms. Obama. It would be a wonderful service to everyone if they contributed the same professionalism, dedication and resources to vetting the family history, detailed background, personal records, educational records and the validity of presented documents, that have been challenged by forensic experts, for President Obama. Even if those true and accurate journalism activities proved that there was nothing there, it would be a wonderful thing to know, so we could all put it to rest, or make an arrest of the forgers.
glounlathan | Jun 17, 2012, 12:43 PM EDT
I wonder if Shields was indeed Scots Irish. O'Siadhail was a local Irish Clan as far as I recall. Interesting to know but stupid to fight over as both Irish and Scots are Celts anyway.
CharlieSP | Jun 17, 2012, 12:29 PM EDT
Does anyone really care? Does her lineage have any immediate or overwhelming impact on her current life? NO! But, the fact that she has a white, Irish slave-owner descendant in her long, distant past gives her reason to grind her axe ad infinitum.
McNamara31 | Jun 17, 2012, 12:25 PM EDT
Brnmar1... Irish history does have much in common with that of the Afican slaves as we were both treated horribly by oppressors who treated us like chattle. The "Red Legs' were Irish slaves sent by Cromwell in chains to work the sugar plantations and because of the harsh conditions survived less than five years. In America most African slaves who had children with the slave masters were forced as it was a way to produce slaves which did not have to be purchased. As I respect our Irish ancestors who rose above and succedded I respect the Obama's for overcoming generations of racism that is still present in segments of America and Europe today.We came in many ships but hopefully now we ride the same boat.
Springfield9 | Jun 17, 2012, 12:20 PM EDT
Nice try, "Shields" is a Scots Clan. MY guess is that Mr. Shields was an Ulster Scot immigrant. So if her "slave" ancestor had a Scots-Irish owner does she get a Guinness?
BrianO | Jun 17, 2012, 12:10 PM EDT
When are they changing the name of Irish central to Pro Obama Central?
mreinhar2001 | Jun 17, 2012, 11:55 AM EDT
These are all fascinating comments. Thank you to everyone. I was especilaly interested in the information from Portia777. I will be sure to go read more baout that. citizen69: I suggest that you do not use Wikipedia for your source of information here as they can have an agenda that is not removed if an editor does not recognize it. If you have access to the online database ProjectMuse through your local library, it might be more interesting for you to read about the origin of the term Scotch-Irish in the article called "Smaller Differences: 'Scotch Irish' and 'Real Irish' in the Nineteenth-century American South" by David T. Gleeson. It was published in New Hibernia Review, Volume 10, Number 2, Samhradh/Summer 2006, pp. 68-91
ciaradexy | Jun 17, 2012, 11:51 AM EDT
If youre not from ireland, then youre not irish regardless of where your parents were from. Born and raised in the Us=American.
PhlutiePhan | Jun 17, 2012, 11:44 AM EDT
Jodi Kantor profiled the resentment of Michelle toward the Irish Catholic politician in Illinois. Now, we know why! She looks at every Irish person as a former slave holder. She is out for revenge. Up the Irish! Michelle grow up!
Brnmar1 | Jun 17, 2012, 11:29 AM EDT
A large number of African Americans (also the people of the caribbean of African descent) have Irish ancestry. The racism that existed (still do) among many Irish Americans make them deny this fact. Many indentured servants from Ireland formed close relationship with the African slaves. Eventually laws were passed forbidden marriages between the two groups. The tap dance that was credited to African Americans was just their way of imititating the dance steps they saw their Irish friends doing. Later on in American history when horrible conditions in Ireland forced many to immigrate to America; certain hidden forces used a strategy of 'divide and control' with the Irish and the people of African descent in order to keep both groups from uniting. Both groups were discriminated against during those times. That legacy has continued to the present. Many Irish Americans are still filled with hatred against African Americans for no valid reason.
bonjouryall | Jun 17, 2012, 11:05 AM EDT
It's odd how the press learns all about the ancestors of both Obama and 'let them eat cake' Michelle but can't find a copy of his thesis. Nevertheless, there's bigger issues out there that, hopefully, the press will deal with better.
crny925 | Jun 17, 2012, 11:01 AM EDT
Irish Central is seriously desperate and completely biased with their Liberal agenda; pathetic how you keep reporting stories from the 'New York Times'! Michelle Obama is a racist and Obama is the worst POTUS. No longer reading any of your trash; you were once a decent read; now... NOT!
Portia777 | Jun 17, 2012, 10:58 AM EDT
Not exactly something to boast about. Is it?Looks like the slave mentality is alive and well then. Just a different version from the olden days, that's all.
MikeRock | Jun 17, 2012, 10:58 AM EDT
Gee Whiz, Niall. Why don't you write a letter on behalf of Mr. Shields to Michelle. That might make her feel better.
BrianO | Jun 17, 2012, 10:57 AM EDT
Where is the news, nice puff piece, designed I'm sure to rev up the white guilt, how is the current generation of michelle's family doing? First lady of the president of the United States, former senator from Chicago, $300,000 a year no show job at Chicago hospital during her husbands tenure as senator, not bad for a descendent of slaves. How's Obama's brother doing that never made it out of Africa, you know George Obama, Oh yea he is still living in a hut in poverty waiting for a handout that will never come from his brother barrack.
LouJApa | Jun 17, 2012, 10:53 AM EDT
Well...well....her "hubbie" is trying to en-SLAVE the American people, taking pointers from "wifie's" ancesters...WOW...OMG!!!! So what else is new......!?? lja/JMJ
torbreezy | Jun 17, 2012, 10:40 AM EDT
Isn't it "strange" that the NY Times would devote 9 months unearthing the roots of our First Lady and fail to have mined the "political roots" of her husband BEFORE the last presidential election? Isn't it "strange"?
Portia777 | Jun 17, 2012, 10:18 AM EDT
Strange how we were never taught in schools about our past and how so many were sold as slaves to USA. No mention much either of how the Pope gave Henry 11 our land and people as slaves in an agreement 1172."The Irish slave trade began when James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves. Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white."
dev4 | Jun 17, 2012, 10:08 AM EDT
now we know why she hates white people
citizen69 | Jun 17, 2012, 09:32 AM EDT
Fascinating story. Yeah i love how IrishCentral tries to distance the 'native Irish' from this story by claiming the Shields are probably Scots-Irish from Northern Ireland yet they are usually falling over themselves to claim Scot-Irish achievements as Irish. Did no-one tell O'Dowd that Northern Ireland didn't exist back then? President Obama's Irish ancestors were Protestant also but O'Dowd never seems to feel the need to mention this fact. Yes Andrew Shields could well have been Scots-Irish, although both GoIreland.com & Wikipedia both claim the name to be of Gaelic Irish origin. The whole genealogy thing is very interesting but the further back you go the more tenuous your ancestral heritage is. If your Irish link goes back six generations then you are only 128th part Irish... ie: the Obama's aren't Irish.
Realist | Jun 17, 2012, 07:58 AM EDT
"It is not known in Ireland where the Shields came from but it was likely Northern Ireland as the family was Protestant"? Firstly, there were Protestants in most parts of Ireland at that time (why not Dublin or Cork for instance?) - another sloppy piece of 'journalism' and Mickey Mouse assumption. Secondly, why even mention his religion at all? What does it add to the 'article'? Unless, of course, you have some agenda - perish the thought.