59 Comments

• writemaggie | Feb 04, 2011, 08:02 AM EST

  Whatever the rights and wrongs of this devout lady's life and priesthood - that is another topic - I cannot believe that the Christ who offered paradise to the thief on the cross would condone this refusal. When the Holy Spirit fell at Pentecost it was on the whole church - both men and women gathered in that room.

• ritmomente | May 26, 2010, 08:18 AM EDT

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• seanomelbourne | May 25, 2010, 06:51 PM EDT

  I am an atheist why should I start another power and enslaving religion? Maybe your religion lacks a little human kindness. There's enough mumbo jumbo in the religious world. I love a glass of wine you can call it blood if you wish. A 1991 grange hermitage tastes well with some venison on Friday's.

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• ritmomente | May 25, 2010, 01:19 PM EDT

  seanomelbourne, apparently you didn't read my comment about the Virgin Mary. She chose not to partake in the bread and wine. Nuns emulate her. The transformation of the bread and wine into Jesus' body and blood was passed on to his Apostles. Priests emulate him. Go start your own religion if you can't take it.

• seanomelbourne | May 24, 2010, 09:02 PM EDT

  GeorgeDillon, discrimination of both sexes in the RC church can end by giving priests and nuns the same "rites" at present women are certainly discriminated against as nuns do not have the same "Rites" as priests. Open your eyes man.

• whitebirtch | May 24, 2010, 07:33 PM EDT

  Church Law is what it is period. No women Priests thank you. Like everything else, if you don't like it--at least read up on it! Then one might understand. F/X

• myriamdom | May 24, 2010, 04:37 PM EDT

  She should not be refused; she should be doubly refused Catholic burial. A priest, a woman - in a same-sex relationship? C'mon, you hypocrites!

• ritmomente | May 24, 2010, 02:35 PM EDT

  finntown, go grab your burka and tell me who is discriminatory.

• ritmomente | May 24, 2010, 02:34 PM EDT

  mellett, go find your "enlightened protestant religion" with your gay women priests. Stay out of the Catholic Church.

• GeorgeDillon | May 24, 2010, 12:48 PM EDT

  That's garbage, finntown. The Church restricts the priesthood to men, just as nuns' orders are restricted to women. The lady who died obviously didn't accept this, as was her right. But it is equally the Church's right to say that she was not a Catholic, not so much for what she said as for what she did. I am a Catholic and I pray for her, but I support my Church in its decision. Are you a Catholic, finntown? If not you should mind your own business.

• finntown | May 23, 2010, 08:36 PM EDT

  This is proof positive that the catholic church has a sustained policy of discrimination against women - the all boys club is in deep trouble and it's good enough for them - how dare they continue to marginilize women.

• mellett117 | May 23, 2010, 06:14 PM EDT

  This is the type of behavior that drove me from the Church. The fact is that in the time of Christ, women were not considered to be full human beings. In the middle eastern countries even now, most women are not accorded full status. This backward attitude by the Roman Catholic Church just intensifies the idea that religion is a means to keep the laity quiet and obedient to the male overseers who dominate and frequently abuse them. It serves them well, so why should they change? I feel sorry for the family and partner of this woman, who only wanted to be a part of something she felt was good and holy. She would have been better off to join an enlightened Protestant denomination, and be accepted. As for me, at 74, I am happy to be rid of superstition and fear, and the domination by theoretically celibate men, who have never had a family, a wife, a child (that they could acknowledge) and who live in a twisted medieval boys club, with priviledge and power unearned and undeserved. 12 years of Catholic education, a brief stay in the convent, and many years of Catholic marriage and motherhood, went out the door when I rationally accessed the con game played by these men.

• Liamkeyes | May 23, 2010, 06:13 PM EDT

  I would like to state that Jesus never conferred the Priesthood on his own Mother or Mary Magdalene. Furhtermore they were not present at the Last Supper when He instituted the Holy Eucharist. Does anybody have a reply to that? I wowuld like to hear just so I can have a balanced opinion.

• fuzzyone49 | May 23, 2010, 01:59 PM EDT

  God of all Bless her and strike the Chicago church in the arse...with a flaming spear.

• ritmomente | May 23, 2010, 12:27 PM EDT

  If the Virgin Mary, born without sin, immaculately conceived a child and assumed into heaven wanted to consecrate the bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ, I don't think God would have minded. The fact is that she chose not to. Nuns follow her example and are just as vital to the Church as priests are. Woman "priests" are an insult to Mary.

• 2BorNot2B | May 23, 2010, 12:41 AM EDT

  katieherk: Good to hear the strong voice of a woman who is not afraid to tell it like it is! --Dandyglow: How absolutely presumptuous of those who seem to think they know the mind of Christ and 'what He would do' even while they trample on the words of the bible! LouGuyt: Where exactly do you get your 'historical' references and how about providing some evidence to back up your claims.

• 2BorNot2B | May 23, 2010, 12:28 AM EDT

  To jacersisi..- the Archbishop of Chicago did not excommunicate this woman for having herself ordained 'priest' by an organization as bogus as the one dermot.r belongs to as well; she excommunicated herself for refusing to follow Catholic doctrine. -- The point about Mary Magdalene being the first one to see Christ and be 'touched by Him on the forehead' is not even germane to this story. Mary Magdalene followed Jesus faithfully, but never demanded to be made an apostle.

• 2BorNot2B | May 23, 2010, 12:10 AM EDT

  Shmrck5S - True and exactly as you say ABSURD! But this web publication is neither credible nor journalism, hence they are beyond being insulted. They use these sensationalist stories as a 'come on.'

• murphy66 | May 22, 2010, 07:31 PM EDT

  Celibacy bestows on man the qualified freedom of a besieged city, where one sometimes has to eat rats.

• Irishgeri | May 22, 2010, 05:26 PM EDT

  Just another indication of the male dominated CAtholic Church, run by a bunch of old men. The Church needs priests, but will they ordain women, and permit married priests? NO! I have 2 friends who were stalwart Catholics, and left the Catholic Church. They are both ordained: one as a Rabbi, and one as an Episcopalian priest.

• Watereskhill | May 22, 2010, 04:10 PM EDT

  "One life is all we have and we live it as we believe in living it. But to sacrifice what you are and to live without belief-that is a fate more terrible than dying" (Joan of Arc) The Catholic Church will bury it's pedofiles in it's consecrated ground. Having destroyed untold numbers of innocent lives on this earth. This woman's Priesthood leaves them in the dust.

• pinkfroggg | May 22, 2010, 11:15 AM EDT

  What about the fact that she had a "partner"? Regardless of gender, receiving the Sacrament of Holy Orders requires a vow of chastity and committing yourself to a marriage to God and the Church. Having a partner (lesbian or otherwise) is dishonoring that vow. She could not have really considered herself a Catholic priest while still carrying on a romantic relationship with another human being. Also, she was not ordained in the Catholic Church. She was ordained by some other group which makes her a priestess among them. Even if they follow all the beliefs of Catholicism (except female priests and celibate priests) that doesn't automatically make them Catholics. Her proper funeral and burial would be within her own church, not the Catholic Church. When you choose to be part of any religion you are choosing to follow all the beliefs of that religion, not just the ones that suit you. And regardless of her burial, what happens to her soul is between her and God.

• Carroll09 | May 22, 2010, 05:13 AM EDT

  Good one Irishknight- so marriage is a protection against paedophiles and abusers. If only the facts backed up this theory...However, celibacy is no more the cause of abuse than marriage is against it: abusive priests didn't become paedophiles- paedophiles were ordained as priests.Even marriage can't protect society against the deviousness and deceptiveness of a paedophile...As to Ms Denomme:yes the Church preaches mercy and ALL who have died are entrusted to the mercy of God.However,if I was to defect to,say,the Anglican Communion,why should I expect a Catholic funeral- by my actions I had rejected the Catholic Church.Ms Denomme was no different-knowing the Church's teaching on women priests,she rejected it and joined a schismatic sect.Why did some of her fellow "priests" not conduct her funeral I wonder?

• IRISHKNIGHT110 | May 22, 2010, 03:05 AM EDT

  I don't believe in woman being Catholic priests but I do believe that Janinie Denomme deserves a Catholic burial if that is what she wanted. where is the mercy and forgiveness that the Catholic church preaches. I know that God has given it to her. I think that the Catholic church should let priests be married maybe then they wouldn't be after little boys.

• knowthyself | May 22, 2010, 01:13 AM EDT

  I'M A Roman Catholic from about age 3 months & Prob. be one till Death.But to refuse any person from a Catholic Mass & Burial is not right . I don't agree that she should be honored as a Priest. but just as a lay person. Church Doctrine & Dogma .is still the laws of the Roman Catholic Church like it or not ! What don't Women understand ?? ---There is no place in the Church for you as a PRIEST !

• seanomelbourne | May 21, 2010, 09:44 PM EDT

  The comment was meant to be laughed at and quoting a disillusioned drug addict should also be laughed at. Without your mystical god or gods the world would be a happier place. Think of the suffering religion's have perpetrated over the millennia. "for god and country" "Allah aqba" and other such slogans are meant to inflame passion and are a license to kill. Need we go beyond the hypocrisy and futility of the crusades.

• Carroll09 | May 21, 2010, 07:52 PM EDT

  Seanomelbourne: "Thank God I'm an atheist" - I'm sure the Good Lord is having a good laugh just as I am; He finds those who deny His existence rather funny according to Psalm 2. I think it was Rossetti who said that "the worst moment for an atheist is when he is really thankful and has nobody to thank"...so I guess one can always fall back and thank God - after all, if there was no God there would be no atheists.

• Carroll09 | May 21, 2010, 06:56 PM EDT

  Funny that we have a nun who openly supports abortion, a woman claiming to be an ordained Catholic priest - all in all, people who have abandoned important and long-held teachings of the Church...they are the ones who rejected the Church, yet some are happy to regard the Church as the "bad-guy".I mentioned earlier how a person who had dishonoured the military services would not be granted a funeral with military honours- who would be at fault? The military because it wouldn't bend its rules for a dissenter or a disloyal person, or the person themselves who knew what the rules were, joined the "club" (so to speak) and then blatantly disregarded the orders of service? The latter, I suspect - in fact, I'd bet that many would applaud the military for standing firm. The case of Denomme is not all that different.

• seanomelbourne | May 21, 2010, 06:03 PM EDT

  Thank God I'm an atheist. Petty minded Bishops and priests refusing to allow the burial of this obviously devout lady how nasty and petty they are.

• Lucius707 | May 21, 2010, 05:38 PM EDT

  This woman was not a priest. The ceremony she went through was null and void. She chose to separate herself from Catholic belief and the Church. It is not shameful for the Church to insist on her own beliefs and not simply conform to polticial or any other correctness that violates her beliefs.

• Bonniekara | May 21, 2010, 03:26 PM EDT

  The Catholic CHurch is a bigger mess now than they were when Luther and Henry VIII broke off. WHo even respects them ? Not even Catholics.

• Carroll09 | May 21, 2010, 03:16 PM EDT

  Denomme was not a Catholic and was not an ordained Catholic priest as there have never been validly ordained female priests in the Church.She excommunicated HERSELF when,as a supposedly committed Catholic,she joined a heretical group of "priestesses"- her move was not that of a committed Catholic: "she always wanted to be a priest" is no excuse for what she did.No one has a right to priesthood just because they WANT it!A member of the military who disregarded the rules or brought dishonour to the service would not be granted a military funeral: there shouldn't be such uproar when a person outrightly rejecting the Catholic faith isn't granted a Catholic funeral. She rejected the opportunity of dying in communion with the Catholic Church by refusing to repent.That said,she is entrusted to the mercy of the Just Judge,so may she rest in peace.

• sidhemajik | May 21, 2010, 03:03 PM EDT

  How shameful of the church to deny this woman. Just one more reason to walk away from Catholicism and all it's outdated BS!

• Nicomax | May 21, 2010, 01:53 PM EDT

  Here we go again, let's punish the truly dedicated workers in the Church while we hide the crimes of others since gender matters most for those desperate to retain power.

• missspook1994 | May 21, 2010, 01:36 PM EDT

  This only goes to show how biased this church is to women. Bigotry doesn't even come close to describing this action. It is time for this church to be disolved and go crawl back under the rock it crawled out of centuries ago and never progressed.

• chesapeake | May 21, 2010, 12:50 PM EDT

  Unbelievable.

• murphy66 | May 21, 2010, 12:39 PM EDT

  She had the best of two worlds--she lived as a Catholic and was buried as a Protestant.

• Siobhan39 | May 21, 2010, 12:05 PM EDT

  It's time for Rome to close its doors and slink away into oblivion. The religion becomes more of a travesty every day. Quick to condemn, excommunicate, and criticize . . . except when its pedophile priests. They are always welcome in Catholic circles.

• LouGuyt | May 21, 2010, 11:56 AM EDT

  In the early days of Ireland's Christianity, there were women priests and bishops. In Ireland at that time, in contrast with most of the world, women could be - and were - anything they wished. This came to a screeching halt when Rome took over. Being a Christian means being like Christ. Rome has seldom been anywhere near this ideal.

• Porickseantuny | May 21, 2010, 11:26 AM EDT

  She was about as committed a Catholic as Henry VIII. It's called being a Protestant.

• Dandyglow | May 21, 2010, 11:20 AM EDT

  What would Christ do in this situation? Somehow, I think He has no problem embracing her. It is shameful that the Catholic Church can't. Shame on them!

• katieherk | May 21, 2010, 11:13 AM EDT

  What does it take for you idiots to wake up! Not only was she wrong in becoming a "priestess", she was openly gay, another no no!! Gosh, people, hang your heads in shame. Where is your faith and how about rereading the strong history of our beloved Catholic Church!!

• ellenfromcork | May 21, 2010, 10:50 AM EDT

  Again, pedophile priest OK in Catholic cemetery (no doubt in close proximity to those they abused0 and a good and decent woman, not OK. Aghrrr!!!!

• murphy66 | May 21, 2010, 10:39 AM EDT

  How ironic. The last thing Janinie would have wanted was a Methodist funeral. Requiescat in pace.

• mlawless | May 21, 2010, 10:20 AM EDT

  God's love embraces all. Apparently, not so for the archdiocese of chicago.

• double11 | May 21, 2010, 10:02 AM EDT

  not fair the catholic church would rather have their pedophile priests who do no wrong the catholic church sucks

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• tomgallagher | May 21, 2010, 09:01 AM EDT

  The catholic church should hang its head in shame. Thank God for the Methodists.

• maycomb | May 21, 2010, 09:00 AM EDT

  The church excommunicates a well-intentioned woman like this, but keeps passing around the pedophile priests from parish to parish. Unforgivable.

• HoundofUlster | May 21, 2010, 08:49 AM EDT

  Shame on the CHURCH. Think like Christ and bury this good person decently.

• haasny007 | May 21, 2010, 08:43 AM EDT

  The Catholic Church is becoming irrelevant.

• bcoc1124 | May 21, 2010, 12:32 AM EDT

  are is, of course our sorry - my old eyes play tricks on me

• bcoc1124 | May 21, 2010, 12:31 AM EDT

  Jesus will welcome this woman who loved him to death. What matter where are bodies are buried? May her soul rest in peace. My heart aches when I think of the "favors" extended to those men whom the church called priests - those child rapists. So many were allowed to die with dignity and were buried with the full trappings of the church. Who better served Our Lord?

• ritmomente | May 20, 2010, 08:56 PM EDT

  Why does Irish Central print these articles? They clearly have disdain for the Catholic Church. Father Tim is a phony and his mission is in the Bronx.

• RiverAveGuy | May 20, 2010, 08:43 PM EDT

  Wow you guys refuse to post my comments. She is not a priest. If you call yourself a journalist, get your fact straight.

• dermot.r | May 20, 2010, 06:37 PM EDT

  First, my prayers to the Rev. Denomme's family at the sad passing of their sister. May she rest in the arms of God as "priest forever." Second, shame on those who refused her the dignity of burial in a Catholic cemetery! May God have mercy on those who denied her. How many male priest child molesters, liars, theives, and scoundrels are buried beneath monuments to their glory? Whatever ground she is buried in will be hallowed by her presence there.

• jacersisityourself | May 20, 2010, 04:40 PM EDT

  I think this is dis-Grace-ful of their Graces, the bishops of the Archdiocese of Chicago. I suppose they would also have excommunicated Saint Mary Magdalene who was one of those appointed by Christ to “Go, tell everyone...” She was the first human He touched after His resurrection – touched her on her forehead. I visited her place of rest in Sainte Baume, France, have seen her skull and the piece of skin off her forehead which Christ touched. When those who found her skeletal remains lifted the skull out of her ‘coffin’, the piece of skin fell off the forehead but was found intact, a piece of human skin touched by Christ preserved by some miracle after so much time had passed. Explore more here: >> http://www.google.ie/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=0&oq=st. mary magdalene&hl=en-GB&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4SNYK_en-GBIE288IE289&q=st. mary magdalene << May God bless Janinie for her work and belief in Him. The sooner the better the Catholic Church gets back to the origins of Christianity the better for all of mankind. I say “Go, tell everyone... it’s time for all Christian Churches to change back to Christ’s ways of teaching”. Include Bishops in your telling.

• Shmrck5S | May 20, 2010, 04:31 PM EDT

  I could be ordained "King of the World" by some bogus group, but that wouldn't make it real. To say the she was a Catholic priest or that she was ordained is absurd and an insult to credible journalism.