Federal court rules Vatican does not hold employee relationship with priests - POLL
New Oregon ruling historic, defines Vatican-priest relationship
Published Thursday, August 23, 2012, 8:05 AM
Updated Thursday, August 23, 2012, 8:05 AM
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KatieMurphy | Aug 23, 2012, 08:10 PM EDT
the sooner the better a world wide million $$ settlement per abused kid, the better
the vatican would be sold in bankruptcy court. And become a museum for all to learn how religion goes astray in horrible ways.
Eg the hatred of the Jews that brought about the holocaust and WWII
the actually catholic crusades against the mulsims that over 500 years killed tens of millions of them. No wonder some hate the west.
then there is the kiddie problem.
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PhlutiePhan | Aug 23, 2012, 07:20 PM EDT
The bar association relationship with lawyers is about the same as the Vatican and its relationship with priests. In the United States, each diocese is considered to be an independent corporation according to U.S. law.
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Searlit | Aug 23, 2012, 06:16 PM EDT
I agree this is a travesty. For this judge to say that "all Catholics would have to be considered as employees of the Holy See" is not only wrong but offensive. The Catholic church supporters give money to the church they don't recieve money from the Vatican. How ludicrous!
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TERUTLEDGE | Aug 23, 2012, 05:20 PM EDT
The "survey" accompanying this story is beyond a joke. Under Oregon and US law, there is a test as to whether there exists an employer-employee relationship. Many relationships do not fall within what is an employer-employee relationship. This decision, based upon the press reports thereon (i have not yet had the opportunity to read it directly) determined that, when that legal test is applied, the Vatican is not the employer of the individual priests. From that, the rule that the employer is responsible for the acts of the employee carried out in the course of discharging functions on behalf of the employer (respondeat superior) does not apply.
The plaintiffs in this and similar cases are seeking to apply a frame of reference, namely the law, to seek recovery. It has been determined, in applying the law, that they are not entitled to a recovery.
No survey can alter the analysis as to how the legal tests are applied to the facts.
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misneac | Aug 23, 2012, 01:50 PM EDT
An excellent ruling based on legal and common sense !
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misneac | Aug 23, 2012, 10:46 AM EDT
Judge Mosman didn’t agree, and even drew an analogy to the legal bar and lawyer relationship." Yes well the BAR solicitors are the soul reapers for the Vatican church, so the judge is of course keeping it all in the "Roman family" The judge is the banker for the court after all.
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biggles008 | Aug 23, 2012, 10:10 AM EDT
gobbledygook
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gordongoblin | Aug 23, 2012, 09:20 AM EDT
What a travesty of a ruling!
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