Facebook page demands Denny’s boycott over Irish Famine ad
Published Thursday, March 4, 2010, 3:21 PM
Updated Thursday, March 4, 2010, 5:20 PM
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citizen69 | Jun 09, 2010, 12:16 PM EDT
Wow, who thought up this ad campaign? Very insensitive.
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seanomelbourne | Mar 07, 2010, 07:53 PM EST
AS Prime minister Pitt said at the time "We can now do what we like with the Irish". As i stated 3,000,000 get your maths right. Why was there the need to ship food out of the country under the armed guard of the occupation forces. What famines were there prior to the introduction of "the spud". Yes there was a blight on the potato but the British used the situation to weaken Irish resolve
There was a blight on the potato in Britain and Europe at the same time but they had other food sources, our "other food sources were exported.We could not fish the rivers because they were owned by the landlords.We could not shoot deer they to were owned by the landlords and the bishops looked on. "My congregation are so God fearing they would rather pay their rent and starve " (Bishop of Galway 1843). Prime minister Tony Blair apologized for the starvation forced upon the Irish people.Kickstar needs to lift the veil of Victorian propaganda from his mind and stop doing Ireland a disservice. Get the facts pal. Where was the so called great LIBERATOR Dan o Connell,by the way he was a captain in the yeomanry and a MASTER MASON who fawned at the feet of "My Liege" O'CONNELL'S pet name for King George of England. You want history Kickstar I'll educate you.
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kickstar | Mar 07, 2010, 04:38 PM EST
seanomelbourne Your logic baffles me "To call it a famine is an insult to about 3,000,000 million people" , To every person in Ireland who died because they had nothing to eat this was a Famine it Is not incorrectly called the Great Irish Famine, Yes the Irish Agents of the Absentee British Landlords shipped Thousands of tons of food out of the country all through the Famine, The Way the Irish were living at the time of the potato blight was a guarantee of a disaster waiting to happen..I am not on this post tell you the history of the Famine...Read!! Educate yourself. Things are not as flat as they seem. ***(3,000,000 million)
I think is 3 Trillion)
'Starlet' Why don't you go back to abusing the Palestinians and keep your beak out of Irish Affairs.
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ardgehane | Mar 07, 2010, 01:21 PM EST
Dennys sucks even more than it did before. They had a problem with not wanting to seat and serve black people. I wouldn't eat there if they paid me. Serves them right.
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keltyeire | Mar 07, 2010, 09:58 AM EST
as an author I wrote on issues with the famine my grandmother suffered and came to this country and it left scars
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maireadinmelb | Mar 07, 2010, 06:59 AM EST
Interesting Starlet, that you say the loss of 6 million is genocide and not the loss of 3 million?! the united nations defines genocide as the systematic manipulation that is the destruction of a group of people based on their religion, nationality or culture. In those terms both the holocaust and the alleged famine in ireland are genocide, even the treatment of native americans, indigenous australians and canadians can be defined as genocide. Any mention of the holocaust in an attempt to be humorous is faced with the usual "anti semite" claim. Genocide is never a laughing matter especially when people do not learn from it!!! History will repeat!!!!
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Watereskhill | Mar 07, 2010, 01:20 AM EST
Just an aside: The word 'boycott' originated in Ireland in the late 1800,s. Derived from Captain Charles Boycott who was ostracized by The Irish Land League. Tenants on the lands of a British Earl an absentee landlord, for whom Capt.Boycott was the Estate Agent requested a reduction in their rents that were impossible demands following The Famine. He not only refused but had them evicted. Word got round of his infamy. The term was coined and subsequently entered everyday use by a Fr.John O'Malley in County Mayo to 'boycott' (have no dealings with) whatever reeked of injustice. Capt.Boycott left Ireland in disgrace. And returned to England. The history book at school in Ireland didn't mention him after that or how he made a living. Indeed Sr.Mary Catherine who taught the class simply remarked "Your great-grandparents were left without a roof by this so-called Captain of The Crown. Another Cromwell" Which was the truth. We then stood and said The Angelus it being noon. Odd how memories, sentiments, emotions shrill and at times fierce are triggered by Articles here. Slainte.
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Starlet | Mar 06, 2010, 11:17 PM EST
ganjadec How about a little perspective here. The Holocaust is more recent history. How many Americans know history that is not American per se. What about geography? How many remember their American history from school? Now, don't get me wrong. I do agree that it is culturally insensitive and inappropriate. On the other hand, your comment can be taken as a swipe against the mainly Jews who suffered at NAZI hands. Putting this all into further perspective, most ads offend some/one group, don't they? They seek to get attention and attention Denny's did.
Living here in The States, I see what I call a general lack of education in the people around me. Have you watched the show "Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader?" So far, noone has been. It's about ignorance because most are just that. So, what the Irish (Irish lovers) like yourself ought to do is EDUCATE rather than fight some other minority group, i.e. Jews to make their point.
As seanomelbourne explains - it's the British not Jews who were the Irish problem!!!
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seanomelbourne | Mar 06, 2010, 08:32 PM EST
To call it a famine is an insult to about 3,000,000 million people, 1,000,000 of whom died of starvation. There was a blight on the potato crop from 1845-1850.The English exported in that time period thousands of tons of salted meat
millions of buttered eggs (butter was used as a preservative),ship loads of barley imported to distill whiskey to sate the thirst of the British(Irish whiskey was their favourite tipple).And jiust to add insult to injury the catholic church took a stipend (worth millions of dollars in todays money),Maynooth College and food and wine rations for every priest and they became good servants of the crown. THe british abused the potato blight to socially engineer 8,000,000 irish people through starvation and emigration therein lies the "Dennys insult"
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LilPaddy | Mar 06, 2010, 07:36 PM EST
Boy oh Boy!
JUST WHAT THE HELL WAY DO SOME OF OUR IRISH THINK?? WOULD ANYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND TRULY BELIEVE THAT DENNY'S SET OUT TO INSULT THE MEMORY OF OUR ANCESTOR'S....GET REAL!! OR, WAS THIS AD JUST USED AS AN EXCUSE TO GET A LIGHT PUT ON "THE PROTESTERS"... RATHER THAT "THE INSULT"?.. I'M NOT SO SURE!! BUT THERE IS ONE THING I AM ABSOLUTELY SURE (BUT NOT PROUD) OF,,,,, THE IRISH (AS A GROUP) ARE POSSIBLY THE LEAST SUPPORTIVE PEOPLE....EVEN TO A TRULY WORTHY IRISH PROJECT THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE GIVING DONATIONS... YET HONORS THE MEMORY OF OUR (THEIR) VERY OWN FAMILY..... LET ME EXPLAIN...
I'M REFERRING TO THE CHILDREN OF THE IRISH INSTITUTIONS (APPX 170,000 total, over 80 yrs, from all over Ireland); MAKES IT A MATHEMATICAL IMPOSSIBILITY FOR ANY IRISH PERSON NOW LIVING TO BE UNRELATED TO ONE OR MORE OF THEM... THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.... SO, IF ANY OF YOU ARE TRULY FEELING PATRIOTIC TOWARDS YOUR FAMILY... GO TO www.icvmbf.org AND ADD YOUR VOICE (NOT MONEY)... AND IF YOU DO, YOU MAY WONDER WHY I.C. FOUNDER Naill O'Dowd WOULD NOT SUPPORT IT...IN FACT YOU MAY ASK HIM WHY!!
IF AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU COULD ALSO ASK HIM WHY HE WOULD NOT WRITE ABOUT A PROPOSAL I SUGGESTED RE: A SOLUTION TO THE IRISH CHURCH PROBLEM... WHICH INCLUDED MY CONTENTION THAT THERE IS/WAS NO SUCH THING AS A "PEDOPHILE PRIEST"... AND I SAY THAT AS ONE WHO WAS IN DAINGEAN FROM 1958 TO 60... NOW IF THAT DOES NOT MAKE YOU GO TO THE SITE... NOTHING WILL.. AND GET READY FOR A SURPRISE... AS IT'S A CHANGE IN THINKING... AND MR. O'Dowd HAS THE DETAILS... ASK HIM TO TELL YOU WHAT THEY ARE!! (OR MAYBE THEY JUST DON'T FIT HIS AGENDA??)
And if there is something you would like to tell me (or where I should go)? my contact info is on the site (and the scdt book is free) Paddy.
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IrishProud | Mar 06, 2010, 12:24 PM EST
It's problably due to ignorance rathar than insensitivity.
Most people don't understand the full ramifications of the famine. They teach very little about it in the history books used in the school systems in the U.S. The people who do learn about it do their own research. Denny's ad people(young go getters who think they know everything) obviously should have researched the issue before writing the ad. Once they appologize, forget it.
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ganjadec | Mar 06, 2010, 04:10 AM EST
Just imagine the furore if the they made fun of the Holocaust.
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ciarrai | Mar 05, 2010, 11:29 PM EST
We all know that the thing was hugely inappropriate and insensitive, but let's write the letters and do what I'm doing and then move on. Who gives a tinker's damn about Denny's? Anyone who eats there has rocks in their heads anyhow. They serve food which is full of saturated fats, high in sodium and, in the case of meats they serve, come from animals raised on factory farms in the most cruel and inhumane manner imaginable. We should boycott that kind of stuff for life, be it Denny's or elsewhere. Up Kerry.
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JeanneD | Mar 05, 2010, 10:03 PM EST
In response to debmoore, I think it would be fairly easy for every single company in the entire universe to be "politically correct" by not making light of people dying of starvation. How hard can that be, after all?
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