Dublin Archbishop calls for independent inquiry into pedophile Fr Brendan Smyth
Stance puts him in direct opposition to Vatican who oppose external inquiries
Published Monday, May 7, 2012, 7:21 AM
Updated Monday, May 7, 2012, 10:18 AM
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eiriamach | May 08, 2012, 02:42 PM EDT
I just read in the Belfast Telegraph that Cardinal Brady will not resign. How did he decide? you might ask. Well, he decided not by praying and asking for enlightenment from God, not by consulting public opinion, not by asking why still more Catholics are exiting the Church in anger, nor even by examining his own conscience. He decided by asking the Vatican: "Dr Brady said there was no indication from the Holy See that it wanted him to resign." Is there anyone besides the cardinal who does not see what's wrong with his decision procedure?
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McNamara31 | May 08, 2012, 12:19 PM EDT
The Vatican will be VERY concerned if a bishop or cardinal were to resign because they are the legal buffer and storm wall between what was carried out between the churches (worldwide) and the Vatican during decades of abuse claims. All the Vatican needs is a very “disgruntled” cardinal or bishop opening up and naming names and internal policies. Why else was Cardinal Law given prestige and beautiful basilica in Rome when such crimes had occurred on his watch in Boston? His silence was rewarded.
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eiriamach | May 08, 2012, 07:57 AM EDT
casualMBA, what kind of English language do you speak? Excluding women from fully participating in their religion, such as in the priesthood, IS misogynist. Do you have the delusion that you can blatantly discriminate against an entire group and still consider them equal to you? Has some male priest convinced you that it's morally OK to exclude women and not consider yourself a hypocrite when you say you believe in the equal moral value of everyone?
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IrelandNorth | May 08, 2012, 06:03 AM EDT
Shalom, EpharimKibbey! Avoiding inheritance ri[gh]tes was a major motivating factor in the Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church's (HRC&AC's) proscription of it's clergy marrying. But patriarchal and misogynistic failure to appreciate the concept of sacred sexuality and the divine feminine was not without its consequences. Surnames in Irish like Mac An Aspeg (Mock-un-Osspig)/(AngSax translit - Mc Anespy, literally means "son of the bishop". And Mac An t'Saggart (phon/pron Mock Un Toggirt - AngSax translit - McEntaggart literally means "son of the priest". Cleary inferring clerical matrimonialism early on. Anyone with such names might qualify for an unanticipated windfall.
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casualMBA | May 07, 2012, 11:36 PM EDT
By way of clarification, OPPOSITION to women priests does NOT imply a "misogynist" policy...all of which, is not germane to the Archbishop's call for independent inquiry.
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casualMBA | May 07, 2012, 11:23 PM EDT
BytheBay,
Are you drunk? An end to celibacy is one thing; women priests are another. And, No, women as priests is NOT a concept of APOSTOLIC CONTINUITY, OR proof (or even intimation) of "misogynist" policy.
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Collette2 | May 07, 2012, 09:06 PM EDT
Your exacly right Ephraim. An international investigation is the only way to deal with this, beginning at the top.
Have the United Nations et al take it on, we've sat back and watched the others brought to account, why the reluctance to deal with the Catholic church.
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Bythebay | May 07, 2012, 03:09 PM EDT
Kudos to Father Ignatius O'Donnell and the other Irish priests in the Association of Catholic Priests at the Conference on the Future of the Catholic Church in Ireland today in Dublin. Calls were made for an end to clergy celibacy as well as for women priests. Well done, long past time to take control of the church. Out with Martin, Brady et al.
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EphraimKibbey | May 07, 2012, 01:40 PM EDT
@Messiah - you bring up a good point. This problem is not just a Smyth/Brady problem. If there is going to be an INTERNATIONAL investigation, it should be empowered to look into pedophilia worldwide and the Roman Catholic Church should be required to provide ALL their records of accusations against their personel. The only way this evil that infests the church is ever going to go away is for them to make full disclosure and surrender ALL the criminals to the world court for trial. Once the nest of evil has been cleaned out, pedophiles will know that they are no longer going to be able to find a safe haven in the ranks of the priesthood and will stop joining. I just learned yesterday that celibacy and the ban on marriage stems from the middle ages when the church became worried that priests and church officials were willing church property to their heirs. The church stopped this practice by saying that priests could not have any legitimate heirs because they had to take a vow of celibacy and were not allowed to marry. Greed and avarice seem to make the world go round even in the church! Once again we see that the solution to one problem has created numerous others.
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Messiah | May 07, 2012, 12:44 PM EDT
All Glory to Achbishop Martin, I have ecently eported after many an occasion beore a FurtheR Teasonious Cover up in the Archdiocese of Dublin. i made a Statement to a Monsignor who Lied to me about his knowledge of the Priest Harry Moore that abused me in 1983 as a minor. The Statement was made in Feb 1999. Late that year the Priest Reported himself in his Guilt and remorse as I his only ever Victim. Coincidence Looms. The priest ran a Statute of Limitations challenge on Delayed reporting for 5.5 years. After Conviction I sought Justice in Civil Court as priest given Lenient Sentence of non custodial. Then at Settlement evidence produced by church proving he was in Psychiatric Treatment in England for similar offence from 1982. Then after a Persecution that continues today the Murphy Report proved the Monsignor I made a Statement to knew the Priest and was his actual Supervisor since the early 90's. The Monsignor failed to provide that Decades of evidence to the Gardai in 1999 and any period After. The archbishop recognised at our meeting last March the Handwriting of the Monsignor involved. But he is not calling for an Investigation into that Corruption and obvious Cover up. They destroyed my Life Recovery plans and stripped me by crimes of my Right and the settlement which the archbishop seemingly Supports. The Solicitor involved in my Persecution is Colm O'Gorman ex Solicitor.
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CelticQueenUSA | May 07, 2012, 11:51 AM EDT
We already know what a crimminal Smyth was. He is dead and I think his crimes have been sufficiently substantiated. Let's get on with prosecuting the living, breathing crimminals that are due punishment TODAY for what they ARE DOING!!!
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ejclizzie | May 07, 2012, 10:30 AM EDT
Asking the Bishop to resign over the fact that he did not do enough in some people's estimation sounds a lot like Joe Paterno and the Penn State mess. He was not even given the dignity of being able to resign.
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Murph46 | May 07, 2012, 10:12 AM EDT
Puuleease move on!
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