Dissident Irish priest fears excommunication over views on women priests
Father Tony Flannery confirms he is taking legal advice for action against the Vatican
Published Monday, January 21, 2013, 7:28 AM
Updated Monday, January 21, 2013, 9:31 AM
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falconflash | Jan 22, 2013, 09:44 AM EST
Fr. Flannery is unwittingly leading Irish away from the Church, as kids can say, "Hey, even the priests don't like the "rules. Maybe, like Fr. Flannery I can make my own mind up about abortion and other issues."
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merefalow | Jan 22, 2013, 09:17 AM EST
sorry further to the role of women,i shudder every time i get on a plane with a woman pilot which isnt often,thank goodness,especially as last week some woman pilot refused to divert somewhere because she had a TAKEAWAY ORDERED,oh my god,as you may have gathered i am not a believer but like on SAUDI air lines they always start the flight with a prayer,whenever i have a woman pilot i b.... pray to.i dont want some woman powdering her nose prior to landing when she,s landing a jumbo,sorry girls,its just my point of view.and i,m not misogynist before i get slaughtered,i realy like women as long as they are doing something usefull like pole dancing or cooking.
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merefalow | Jan 22, 2013, 08:33 AM EST
we have enough priests mullahs witch doctors causing confusion and trouble in this world without adding a bunch of hysterical women,the only reason to have another bunch of fantasist fairy tale believers in the church is to relieve a bunch of choir boys from the threat of buggery.
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EphraimKibbey | Jan 21, 2013, 11:59 PM EST
Will Hamilton - Read Josephus, the Jewish General/Roman Historian, on Jesus and Pontius Pilate to clarify in your mind that Jesus did exist. Only faith can guide you as to his relationship to God but there is ample historical evidence that the Man walked the earth, stirred things up for Pilate and was crucified. Eiriamach - Do they really not believe in historical facts or are they so scared that they might have believed lies all their lives that their brains just freeze up?
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irishpjk | Jan 21, 2013, 08:08 PM EST
wtf. When you take your vows you agree to follow the teachings of Christ and follow the laws of the Church. The laws of our Roman Catholic Church come from Rome. If you think they are making mistakes you are free to make your suggestions to Rome, some are accepted and some are not, just like the law of the land. Some of today’s Catholics including some priests want to decide what rules they will follow and what ones they don’t like, some of them even think they should be allowed to molest the children in their care. When Rome says no they go to the media to try and force their beliefs on the rest of us. Why not just get out and find a religion that has what you want? I will tell you why, because they are afraid that the Catholic Church might be right and they are afraid of ending up in hell, so they fight for change and at least if they go to hell they will bring a crowd with them. Remember it is better to be right alone than to be wrong with a thousand others. I don’t care how Fr Flannery leaves if he is kicked out by Rome or just decides to leave; he is like a cancer and must go. I happen to like my Roman Catholic Religion the way it is in fact I think it got a bit too liberal over the last twenty five years, and turning back the clock might be the way to go.
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falconflash | Jan 21, 2013, 07:33 PM EST
single don...are you saying that gays have ruined the church and are going to ruin the US military? That's a soft undermining of the two institutions the communists hate, American military and the Catholic Church,,, infiltrate with homos and watch them fall, could be a lot of truth there.
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SingleDonald | Jan 21, 2013, 06:56 PM EST
I have been critical of some of eiriamach's past posts. However, I do believe in the validity of her last two. Father Flannery should not be excommunicated, if he supports the ordination of women priests, believes in contraception, or gives sacraments to people who have been divorced. Concerning homosexuality, the Church is one big hypocrite here! That 60 Minutes segment of about a decade ago, which I referenced here, revealed that the modern Catholic Church has become one big gay men's club (according to Mike Wallace), considering the orientation of most priests. To review the segment, a Jesuit seminarian unsuccessfully sued that order, over quid pro quo sexual harassment. Once they knew he was gay, he was expected to "do things", for the higher ups. He refused, and got nowhere in his quest to become a full fledged Jesuit. The judge was sympathetic, but sadly could not rule in his favor, as the Catholic Church is exempt from the sexual harassment laws. Well, at least straight Jesuits to be are not expected to "play along". If I joined that order, they would likely have me do personal favors, like cleaning the higher ups cars. You know something, I would be happy to clean their cars!!
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Will Hamilton | Jan 21, 2013, 05:39 PM EST
Excommunicated! He should be crucified as an example! Of course that might be a problem later. In two thousand years his followers might have grown into a global religion and be called Flanneryians. At least their religion would be based on someone who had actually existed.
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seanomelb | Jan 21, 2013, 05:39 PM EST
The work of Jesus was compromised by men who misused his teachings to establish a power base and reduce women to chattels.It is interesting to note that Jesus,mohammed and Abraham were great philosphers. If they were alive today they would be shocked as to how their philosophies are deliberately misinterpreted. Atheism is the only way. BTW who gave you the "god"given right to judge a persons moral compass.
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Mortimer74 | Jan 21, 2013, 05:06 PM EST
Incidentally. does she - and her man-made "church" - also believe that Christ instructed us to kill unborn babies?
Interesting video from Dana in regard to the latter:
http://www.ewtnireland.com/Pages/CelticConnections19Jan2013.aspx
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Mortimer74 | Jan 21, 2013, 05:05 PM EST
Oh dear, I think eiriamach has finally lost it. Apostles are very, very different to disciples.
Apostles: 12. Men: 12. Women: 0. See a trend, anyone?
Only the arrogant and bitter eiriamach could second guess Jesus Christ.
But the "as long as the Roman Catholic Church claims to be Christian" comment is the one that makes me believe her elevator doesn't go all the way to the top.
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falconflash | Jan 21, 2013, 04:39 PM EST
Jimsales74, just curious,are you pro choice? Just trying to get an idea of your moral compass.
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eiriamach | Jan 21, 2013, 04:21 PM EST
People, try to understand: Jesus did not scorn women. His appointed apostolic teacher was Mary Magdalen, and he welcomed women among his disciples. His mother and other women shared the graces bestowed by the Holy Spirit after Jesus' ascension. Christ established no ritual or rules for ordaining priests or bishops. Nor is any to be found in the New Testament. The Vatican has persisted in this error (I'm being charitable; many would call it a self-serving lie) for far too long. The criticism of this archaic sexism will not go away, not as long as the Roman Catholic Church claims to be Christian. Christians must correct the errors of our "separated brethren"! Christ instructed us to do that.
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Mortimer74 | Jan 21, 2013, 03:59 PM EST
People, try to understand: Jesus did not appoint women. His chosen apostles were men. Women have had important roles in Church history. One was called the Virgin Mary. Many are saints. But women will never be priests. It's a constitutive element of the Sacrament of Holy Orders, and no Pope can change it because Christ established it. So, it's very simple: if you don't like the teachings of the true Church, founded by Jesus Christ, then go join one of the protestant churches or sects, founded by men. There were about 30,000 of them when I began writing this post. Probably a couple hundred more by now. Worldwide the Church is flourishing and welcoming home the many who want to return to the true Church. Beware false prophets, my friends.
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