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Diary of an intern - ten things I learned at IrishCentral

What a completely non-Irish intern has learnt about the Emerald Isle


IrishCentral intern takes a look at what she learned about the Irish this summer
IrishCentral intern takes a look at what she learned about the Irish this summer
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When I tell most of my friends where I’m interning this summer, they simply don’t get it. As If the thought of me: a pre-med, science student-turned writing fanatic, working at a news publication instead of in a hospital for the summer wasn’t enough, then it must be the fact that I have absolutely zero Irish blood in my ancestry that confuses them. I’m a 21-year-old Jewish girl with Polish, Russian, and German descent- and this summer, I’ve been writing for IrishCentral.com.

My knowledge up until 52 days ago about Ireland consisted of a mixture between leprechauns, the color green, sheep in the middle of a road and some jumbled scenes from the movie “P.S. I Love You.” If you said the word “taoiseach” to me I’d have thought you sneezed. I also knew that Ireland had great scenery.

So, after nearly two months here at IrishCentral, I can now proudly say that my knowledge of Ireland has thankfully expanded to one that’s not based off of a Lucky Charms box. Below is a list of what I believe are the top ten things I learned about Ireland from working at IrishCentral.com

1. Don’t ever underestimate the importance of Guinness

It was only when I started working at IrishCentral that I realized the true depth of how a brew could affect a country. I saw articles on: Obama with Guinness, how to cook with Guinness, top ten facts about Guinness, foods that taste good when paired with Guinness, how Guinness can cut your cholesterol, how Singapore (of all places!) cooks with with Guinness, and, my personal favorite: Queen Elizabeth with a Guinness. After working here, I may have to cheat on my gluten-free diet just to experience that true symbol of Irish culture.
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2. Potato farl is not served with a vegetable roll 

For my first “Top Ten” article for Irish Central, I picked one that I believed I could screw up the least. Since this was early on in my internship and I still didn’t know too much about Ireland, I thought that I could look up potato recipes, provide a little blurb, and essentially not cause too much harm. I even sent the list to my editors to make sure that they had actually heard of the dishes that I was about to call “popular.”

After spending nearly a week researching my potatoes, the article was finally posted and soon after, I received this comment: “Where did you get the idea that traditional Irish corned beef comes in a tin....and traditionally served at breakfast, also potato farl served with a vegetable roll at breakfast..gees.”

My first emotions after reading that was serious concern that I had offended someone with my elementary knowledge on spuds. People MUST know that I’m not Irish now if I had thought potato farl was served with a vegetable roll of all things. But after reading that comment, I also learned that many viewers approved of my list. So I did learn an important lesson about Irish culture from my potato article: There can be many ways to serve a potato, and Irish people can debate endlessly about which one is the best.

On the other hand, there are certain rules that I just shouldn’t tamper with, and better to just leave it to the experts to the more inexperienced potato eaters which is truly the best.
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3. Irish priests aren’t always so holy

I’ve been aware of the sexual scandals involving Catholic priests for a while; having only been inside church a few times across Italy, my knowledge of Christianity is limited at best. But I did know - and double-confirmed it with my editor - that Catholic priests are not married, and thus should not be sexually active.

In my mind, the church is a holy and sacred place, so to me, it’s extra confusing that priests, the ones that have taken a vow of abstinence, break it in such abusive ways. Knowing now that, due to my exposure in just the past few weeks, that scandals like this aren't all that uncommon, what was also surprising to me is how some of the priests aren't kicked out right way.

I wrote an article about sexual abuser Fr Donncha Mac Cárthaigh, who, as Senator Mark Daly pointed out, continues to travel around Europe, wear his priest's collar, and was even given a different job that gave him more access to children after complaints had been made against him.

I'm well-aware that not every priest is like this- in fact, I'm sure that the majority of them aren't at all - but it still was surprising to me that all of the allegations against "holy" priests seemed to pile up, one after another.
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4. There’s a separation between church and state - kind of

After learning about the church scandals, perhaps the article that shocked me most was how the Irish government issued a statement in the wake of the Cloyne report demanding that priests are obliged to report child abuse disclosed to them during a confession or could face prison time.

There were two reasons that this was shocking to me: 1. I knew that confessional was totally confidential, and 2. Irish government was getting involved with church relations. As I soon learned, this was extremely common.

In the mind of an American girl, in whose own country church and state are supposed to be totally separate, the fact that the government even issued a statement about church affairs at all was surprising. But it brought up an interesting question: has it come to a point that religious men (such as priests) will have to break an age-old tradition and spill secrets if it's for the benefit of another person? To be exposed to such situations where I even have to question a government is involved with church during recently times was surprising, but good for me. I now know that up until the 80's or 90's, the Irish church and state were extremely intertwined; even today, most schools are run by the church, as well as many hospitals.

But what about when the governmental relations go haywire? Take the example of the Magdalene Laundries. After researching them and seeing the movie, I was horrified at not only the possible involvement of the government, which is thankfully being investigated now, but how both the church and the government allowed those atrocities to happen under their watch. It’s definitely been a beneficial exposure to see a culture where the church and state seem to unofficially work hand in hand, producing both good and bad outcomes.
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5. Debating Irish writers is as hot of a topic as politics is 

For another “Top ten” article, I decided that it was time for me to expand on my knowledge of Irish authors, from just Flann O’Brien, Swift and basic James Joyce to the countless, remarkable others.

To begin my research, I’d done a few searches to see how various authors ranked in other peoples’ lists. I subsequently discovered that my task at hand would not be as easy as it looked, because it seemed like everyone’s list contained different authors. I only could use ten, and I had about 40 to narrow it down from. I knew that I couldn’t base it on my own knowledge because I’m hardly an expert in the area, just a fan. After polling two of my professors, two of my editors, and anyone else with a knowledge of Irish literature, I compiled a list that I thought best represented Irish novelists only.

The results were better than expected; most of the people seemed to appreciate the list I had compiled, but there was the guaranteed two or three that objected to my list and demanded to know why I hadn’t included some of their favorites. One person even said, “I'll try again most of Ireland's great writers are not covered here. Jordana has a narrow view of Irish literature it would seem.” It was from that one comment that I knew for sure  that  the talent of Irish writers is one that cannot possible be contained in a list of ten, so it was my mistake for attempting to narrow it down.

I gained two pieces of knowledge that day: two things that day: 1. I have a ton of reading ahead of me, and 2. my suspicion was confirmed: Irish people love to argue and express their opinions, especially about books, potatoes, and politics as I was about to soon discover.

6. Irish people know their history- and aren’t afraid to share it


Another article that I wrote was one which I considered to be pretty straightforward; not surprisingly, it turned out to be anything but. True to my now-understood view of how Irish people love to share their knowledge and opinions, the comments I received on the article about Ireland’s celebration of its National Day of Commemoration shocked me, not in a bad way, but in a good way.

Instead of the usual banter and criticism, people were having a healthy discussion on Ireland’s history, which was quite refreshing even at such an early point in my writing career. The comments started out with one user citing how Ireland unfairly killed Hungarians, Turks, Austrians during World War I. Another user followed up with honoring Irish soldiers in the British Army and how important their roles were. After him, the IrishCentral members had a healthy discussion about the importance of remembering who fought for their country and which countries did (or didn't) care about Ireland. Names such as Roger Casement, Fintan O'Toole, Kevin Myers, John Spain, and Francis Ledwidge were thrown out as people that were to be remembered for their sacrifices for Ireland.

From the users' comments I learned this about Irish people: their history is a long and controversial one, and people aren't afraid to share their opinions on it. It’s truly refreshing to see another culture so passionate about their history, even if there are negative things to be said about it.
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7. You abbreviate counties with Co. and there’s lots of them


This may seem silly, but the way that people in Ireland associate where they live was confusing to me at first. I had no idea why people would write Co. Dublin, for example, after their town. I say that I’m from Chappaqua (city), New York (state), and if I was being really specific, I’d add a “USA” to the end of it. But as I learned in Ireland, people seem to do their town or village, Co. ________.

After further research I learned that Ireland was broken up into 32 different counties, similar to the way that the US is broken up into states. I also noticed that there seemed to be an exceptional amount of pride for each county.

I’d seen this in articles when we highlighted a significant person’s achievements, or if we traced a famous person’s ancestry backed to Ireland and found that he was from Co. Galway, for example. When I researched my potato article, too, I found that there were different recipes unique to each region.
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8. James Joyce is a pretty big deal

It’s safe to say that by having an Irish academic advisor for my English major all throughout college, I’ve been exposed to James Joyce. I knew he was a big deal, and I thought “Dubliners” was an extraordinary and emotional piece of work. But it wasn’t until IrishCentral that I learned how big the man is.

First, there was “Bloomsday,” the day dedicated to James Joyce that is celebrated not only throughout Ireland, but in New York’s Bryant Park as well. I learned that in Dublin, people re-visited the landmarks that Joyce discusses in “Ulysses.” To me, this symbolized just how much of an affect this one author’s words had had on generations of people and future generations to come. I didn’t realize the extent of the his fans’ fanaticism, however, until we ran an article on how much Joyce’s passport sold for: a whopping €69,747. That astronomical number truly proved to me how important this man is to Ireland- and to all literary cultures.
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9. The Irish Prime Minister is called a taoiseach and it’s not pronounced anything like the way it looks

Despite my native language of English, near fluency in French, ability to dabble in Hebrew, and conversational skills in Italian, I somehow managed to pronounce the official name of the Irish prime minister something along the lines of “toy-sitch” (of course, I never actually attempted to say it out loud).

As for what the taoiseach actually does, his role in government is one that was unfamiliar to me because America doesn’t have a prime minister. Part of my confusion was that I didn’t understand why Ireland needed both the taoiseach (I actually thought Enda Kenny was a woman because of the name “Edna” in English- another lesson I quickly learned) and a president.

After reading several articles on it, I learned that the taoiseach has a more active role in the government as head, while the president’s primary role seems to be to sign legislation and approve important matters for Ireland as head of the state, similar to Queen Elizabeth and David Cameron.

So, who would have thought that you actually pronounce it like “tee shook?”  That’s another thing I learned- I might never understand the Gaelic language.

10. Ireland’s in a pretty bad financial state

What I knew about recessions stemmed mostly from growing up in the suburbs of Manhattan- people are losing their jobs; those who were once able to afford nice things simply cannot.

I knew that when I went to Italy for three months the euro was pretty bad, and I followed from time to time the financial crisis of Greece. However, I was totally unaware of any sort of crisis in Ireland, a view that was quickly corrected once I began working here. After writing several financial articles (and attempting to make them as interesting as possible) I learned that an astounding number of people in Ireland - 25 percent - are at risk of poverty. Countless fear for the future of their homes, and the amount of people signing up for the Live Register (the equivalent  of America’s social welfare program) grew by 1,500 people in July alone.

The most recent bit of information I learned regarding the financial crisis is that 60% of Irish people believe that the worst is yet to come in their economy. But if there’s one, useful bit of information I could take away from my experiences here at IrishCentral, it’s this: Irish people have a strong sense of persistence and courage pulsing through their “Irish blood,” and it’s that resilience that will undoubtedly hold them through the end of this crisis.


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Gotcha!!hahaha
Ha Ha.No Creaky I have got you again.I told you I got it from Wiki.I just pasted it ha ha ha.So that's three people to just lonely you on the interpretation.I was chuckling away and my beautiful wife asked me what I was laughing about.I showed her.She said are they all that stupid ha ha.After that faux pas of yours Jordana knows what part of Ireland she will live in.I knew you were going to "cut n'run" because I could feel the annoyance as I started cornering ya on the Irish language.By the way you will check back and when you do I'll be right again ha ha.
Splutterer@ Nothing you attest now can erase the fact of what you contested! I 'cut and pasted' your very OWN words! - Nobody can be accused of wilfully misunderstanding or altering them in any way! Be a man - just accept that what you wrote is not correct, and you made a 'pigs ear' of it. We'd think the better of you for it! ~~~ There is no shame in your ignorance - only your refusal to eradicate it! Apart from that, we are greatly amused by your Gradation System. ~Pure efFLUENT! (S'long,now: Towngate has left this thread.Bye!)
Creaky.Now YOU said and I quote"If there are 400,000 FLUENT Irish Language speakers in Ireland - I'll eat me "Oul' Skillara"!I SAID.There was an estimated (400,000 ) of the population of the Republic who would be CLASSIFIED as fluent, near fluent or reasonably good passive speakers.That means you have 400,000 in which SOME are fluent~SOME are near fluent and~SOME are reasonably good passive speakers.Put them all together and they make up 400,000.I never said 400,000 were fluent.I'm not going to comment on the rest because I want this cleared up.You do know there is a difference between a fluent Irish speaker (which is extremely good at speaking Irish and reasonably good passive speakers (which means they can hold a basic simple conversation)How is that saying there are 400,000 FLUENT Irish speakers?? If you misunderstand it fair enough.It's easy to misread something or misunderstand something. I'll wait for your reply.
Psssst,Splut! ~ just between ourselves ~ as nobody else is paying attention ~ Lets' 'cut and paste' Your: """"Well according to a little research i did there an estimated (400,000 ) of the population of the Republic who would be classified as fluent, near fluent or reasonably good passive speakers.""" Followed below by: Your: """I never said there was 400,000 FLUENT Irish speakers.""" Now,Splut, that is just plain silly at best and apallingly moronic at worst! ~ You are condemned by your own words! ~ as a fantasist! ~ and a liar! ~ so I rest my case M'lud! ~ ~ ~ However, much worse than this is your own astonishing admission of intransigent bigotry with regard to all matters Irish, as if you were the sole authority on the subject! You are not any kind of authority on anything, me old mate! You can imagine or pretend you are some kind of Crusader like 'Superbogman!' or something, defending our country from people who have opinions different from your own. Just don't ever think your 'powers' are real or forget it is a game you've invented to amuse yourself. ~~~ You accuse this Site of being " a den ... of personal opinions " amongst other things ~ Finally, you state Quote: """exposing false information is my job on IC """. I'll put this gently to you for your own sake: Listen, old chap. Get over it. You do not have job on IrishCentral. You are invited to comment on Posted Articles,the Same as the rest of us, that's all! ~~~ Cheers!.
Ah Creaky!!.Sure whats the point of me educating everyone on IC if I can't point out the error's of their way of thinking.I'm only the messenger of truth and fact and all backed up by many scholars.See Creaky I'm able to read and if you notice I never said there was 400,000 FLUENT Irish speakers.That's making me out to be spreading false information and exposing false information is my job on IC.Call me SirPeter the crusader.I think you should read that part again.I will say it was Wikipedia I got the info and I always check with as many sources as I can find.I will explore this further.Facts are facts and truth is truth and I have nothing to gain by wishful thinking.I think you are been a bit harsh calling all those teachers fanatics.There are English teachers in England who love the English language and English literature.Would you call them fanatics?Do they not teach their children to love and respect the English language and English literature?.This site is a den of lies and half-truths and personal opinions and down right bigotry.I'm going to be here a long time because I see this site as an enjoyable opportunity to take apart these opinions bit by bit and if necessary the individual behind them if they persist and ignore a challenge to their oft-times anti-Irish opinion .I only expect a reasonable approach and I'll be the first to admit if I'm wrong.For me there is no lets agree to disagree not when it comes to my Country,my Culture and my History.Because the falsehood is out there and has to be challenged to the end.BUT if this was an English forum and I put out derogatory comments and misinformation.I would have no problem to agree to disagree.My derogatory comments and misinformation would be already out there and so my opinion is cast for all to read.See where I'm coming from?
Splut: If there are 400,000 fluent Irish Language speakers in Ireland - I'll eat me "Oul' Skillara"! You are thinking a little wishfully,old chap! - as they might say. ~ ~ I am fully aware of 'An Gaelscoileanna' and the Irish-speaking enclaves and the language fanatics within them. ~~~ As for Mister Pearse 'igniting a powder-keg which blew the 'Brits' out of Ireland!' ~ He did no such thing! His little undemocratic and unsupported treasonous disaster usurped the democratic Progress of the Home Rule Bill through the British Parliament in London and the elected Irish Parliament in Dublin. ~ He loved his countrymen so much he and his plotters chose not to face the Irish Electorate. ~~ I do agree if the Dublin Metropolitan Police had any idea of how shambolic the 'rebels' were they might have been able to 'have a stern word' with the leaders and told them to stop acting the maggot,clipped their ears and sent them home before someone got hurt! That would have been better for everyone. ~ The British didn't leave (part of the island) finally until 32 years later....and with the current NI situation, you can bet that the fuse is so slow and wet it will be a long time before it(ever)reaches the powder-keg! ~ I will never deny Patrick's personal courage, and I like the Bust of him in front of his home and Estate that he KNEW he would never see again. We will just have to agree to disagree about this, me old segotia, and respectfully leave it as it is and let yeh het back to yer cards. Deal?
Creaky.Welsh made a come back in wales.I think you are wrong there with your fifty thousand enthusiasts.You say only 1% of Irish can speak any of it.Well according to a little research i did there an estimated (400,000 ) of the population of the Republic who would be classified as fluent, near fluent or reasonably good passive speakers.I'd be inclined to agree with that.I play cards with 6 guys and one night we decided to speak Irish for a while for a laugh.Myself and an Irish teacher are fluent,but the other guys said no way could they speak it.But what surprised those guys was how much Irish they really had just under the surface.By the end of the night they had made huge progress.It's just not practiced more in my opinion.My own grandparents on both sides had no Irish at all.I think you are forgetting about the Gaelscoileanna.There are now 600 Irish-language primary/secondary schools in Ireland and they have got very popular.50,000 may speak it as their first language and that's rising slightly.But I know loads of kids who can switch from one to the other no problem.Been bi-lingual is good enough.I consider it my native language anyway and would type it here all the time if i could.As for Patrick getting in trouble with the Authorities.I think the authorities wished they had just given him just a slap on the wrist.He ignited the powder keg that blew the Brits out of most of Ireland didn't he.Erra the Brits only ever cared about themselves weather you believe it or not.We are well rid.It never worked.
Splut: No. I have no animosity towards anything ~ or anyone! Especially not any language - as they have been so kind to me by helping me earn a crust - but to describe Irish/Gaelic as "...our native tongue " is weird. The native tongue of Ireland is English. 'Irish' is an ancient disparate language whose natural slide towards oblivion is only halted by some fifty thousand enthusiasts and barely clings to its status as an Official language at all by dint of the Governments insistance on bi-lingual Official State Documents. Otherwise ....... kaput! Only one percent of Irish can speak any of it. ~ Brendan Behan suggested banning it! ~ his idea being that the Irish are so bloody-minded,anti 'the Government' and contrary, they would speak nothing else and the ancient language would sweep the country overnight.! ~ ~ ~ I often wonder if Patrick Pearse had written and sigedn all his Unconditional Surrenders in Irish, if that wouldn't have bought enough time for the rest of the country ~ asleep in their beds ~ to come to Dublin and help him out of the spot of bother he found himself in with the Authorities! ~ Btw: only one of the six books of his complete writings, which I posess, is written in Gaelic! He expounded lots of ideal for a perfect Gael - ic Ireland - by making them all speak Gaelic was nowhere near the top of his list! ~ ~ ~ Poor Jordana! If you are now slowly folding your notebook and putting it in your 'purse' (US Diriv.of European 'Handbag'. A 'purse' being a small pouch with a metal fastener containing money, and carried in the Handbag!) and walking slowly away ... I don't blame you! 'Ireland' is a Gordian Knot that cannot be untied or even cleft in twain! Best not bother!
Believe me I have 3 teenagers,one almost,all female in the house and most of the time they use irresistible female tactics to get what they want.I know at this stage that their softly softly kissy kissy approach is going to cost me at least €20.No man can resist that.It's more tyranny I could use.They know exactly how long it takes to ware a man down in order to get what they want.So far anyway my childrearing methods have been a success or so I have been told.If kids only cost you money and not grey hair I'm doing ok.Anyway I get the feeling you have a certain amount of animosity to our native tongue.Why would that be?Do you not think we would be that much poorer in our culture if it was gone? Jordana is getting all excited because there is 46 comments to her article.I'm not sure does she realise we are only here because the riff-raff have abandoned it.ha ha.Now she is despairing.ha ha
Interesting but too much information about your tryannical household and childrearing methods. Mind you, they are all female,so that might make a difference. ~ Perhaps my 'tea-girl' who got fired, might have understood the importance of obedience is she had been brought up like that. ~~~~~ Now then,you may 'bring on' " An Tailibhain na Gael" if you like; but I stick to 'Patrick'. The Irish/Gaelic form "Pádraig" should only be used when writing or speaking in that language. ~ They should write is as he did: "Pádraig Mic Piarais". So until we reach that level of 'purist' enforcement, I leave 'An Táilibhíní" to mumble and stutter their divisive gibberish to each other as they huddle in their caves, whilst the intrepid but very confused Jordana stands there with a blank notebook and a despairing look on her face! ~
Oh Creaky.The Gaelic Taliban wouldn't be happy with you at all.They insist on the fada.Somehow I don't think he will mind if you call him Patrick at this stage,but him been a school teacher I'd reckon he would say "Tuair dom do Liámh" if you left out the fada.That's the trouble with young people these days Creaky they have to much attitude and are only half-baked.I have always treated my kids with respect and they are maturing nicely.But there has been a few times when I had to say.This house is not a democracy and we are not equal and remember when you go out to work it's not a democracy there either ha ha.Another one I have often used if they start getting uppity for a bit of shock treatment and it makes kids sit up a bit"I say,Don't argue with me like I'm your friend.I am not your friend and I will never be your friend,friends come and go,I am your father and always will be,that's way above friends,the only person above me is God.ha ha..They enjoy that but the message get across at the same time..lol
C'splut: I chose to leave the 'fada' aside to assist it on its way to obscurity...and also I prefer to use the name Pearse's English father give him. He was called 'Pat' by his family. The Gael-ification came with his notions of upperosity.My deliberate mispelling of 'ideological'was obviously a nuance too far. ~~~ You have no need of instructing Jordana to bring refreshments to me as I am well catered for,thank you. It reminds me, though, of a young lady who was instructed to do exactly that and she obviously felt embarrassed by such a menial task. I told her she didn't have to demean herself and not to bother. I thought I was sparing her feelings but next thing I learned was; she got fired for disobeying the boss. I often wonder what happened to her. I hope she recovered and didn't turn out bitter and twisted and at war with the world!!
Jordana feel free to join us.While you are listening and learning be a good girl and throw on a pot of tea and break open a few biscuits for myself and Creaky.Don't take it as some male chauvinist insult.But as a first step to acceptance that you might at some stage be the best writer on IC.When you get beyond the excitement that we abbreviate counties with Co ect.Which is all very not interesting to Irish people.When your intellect is more refined to the mind-boggling confusing complexities and genius of the Irish nation.We'll make you a cup of tea then because you'll need it.
Creaky.I'd like to read those on Pádraig Pearse.Do you know how to put the fada over a letter?Not been smart or anything just thought it might be handy for anybody who wishes to do so.(press Ctrl-Alt and then the letter a or e ect.)Anyway leaving that a side.This is the problem with IC as I see it.Most of the articles on history and current affairs are at foundation level which basically doesn't give any understanding at all.Take Pearse as an example and you are correct in his extremist views.To many Irishmen he was a hero,a nationalist,Poet and died fighting for Irish freedom.This is all true.But to other Irishmen with British leanings he was a militant extremist with idealogical extremist views and was a threat.This is also true.Foundation level Irish history,the way it is thought tends to polarize each different idealogical Irishman into different camps which is why there is almost no consensus on anything.Another example where foundation level Irish history screws things up is the fact that during the "famine" the British wanted to starve the Irish poor.That wasn't the case at all.It was the majority of the Irish protestant landlord class who have to shoulder most of the responibilty.They had a justifiably bad name because they spent most of their time in England living it up and were a bunch of drunken,slobbering,idiots who were known for their mismanagement of their estates in Ireland.That's why there was so little help from England.The English political thought of the day was to let the Irish landlord class stew in it.But as a consequence of that a million Irish starved.




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