Daley and Obama split also about Irish and Black relationships
Chicago Irish and African Americans have long and difficult history
Published Tuesday, January 10, 2012, 7:09 AM
Updated Tuesday, January 10, 2012, 10:29 AM
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cillowen | Jan 10, 2012, 01:04 PM EST
there is nothing new here - it has always been the same for all ethnics. Michelle and downtrodded always partake of the whine. Others have good reason to fear their burning of cities across the USA - the NI Proddi operates
in like manner.
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Nicomax | Jan 10, 2012, 12:58 PM EST
It's an old issue. The Brahmins in Boston were stunned and angry about the steady rise in Irish political power in the 19th century. Why even Honey Fitz became mayor and his grandson not only went to Choate and Harvard but became president. Yikes!
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Murph46 | Jan 10, 2012, 12:47 PM EST
Funny how the liberal press spins it as wore down from constant fighting the Republicans when it is internal racism from Michelle!
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joycean | Jan 10, 2012, 12:01 PM EST
faberm1, Reading some IC posts, the Irish still seem to be clueless about this country.
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joycean | Jan 10, 2012, 11:59 AM EST
Joan1954, Actually desegregation was forced on Boston. A federal judge ruled that because some neighborhoods were predominately White and some Black, the neighborhood schools were. So the schools were forced to bus kids. The White schools were in Irish neighborhoods, and the ruling caused a lot of Irish to move out of the city.
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KerryLKing | Jan 10, 2012, 11:32 AM EST
Agree with you kilgara....
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pounder | Jan 10, 2012, 11:23 AM EST
The Irish,as well as Italians,Germans,Jews,Polish,came to this country and worked hard,strongly encouraged their offspring to educate themselves and to overcome the environment their parents had to exist in.They became citizens,fought and died in our wars,and despite some really notable exceptions,they were law abiding, and did not throw their garbage out the window.I realize that African Americans have had a ough row to hoe,and many are truly patriotic and are outstanding soldiers and upstanding citizens,but the great truth that many pundits and the pinky lifting,latte drinking, politically correct people,choose to ignore is that Black people are their own worst enemy.Crime,drugs,rap music,bastard babies,welfare queens,etc the list goes on.They have not budged one inch,moved off of square one assimlate into recognized society.
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kilgara | Jan 10, 2012, 11:16 AM EST
How bitter is the sting of the ungrateful serpent. The Chicago , largely Irish, political machine was responsible for the political fortunes of Obama. With incredible luck, a completely lackluster opponent, and the total dumbing-down of the American electorate{MTV,etc} he landed in the White House. Now,that the tables have turned and Obama is the boss , he, with the full encouragement of his blatantly racist wife stabs the politicos who made him in the back.Just one more reason why politicians are at the very bottom of any thinking persons "Who do I respect list?"
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faberm1 | Jan 10, 2012, 11:16 AM EST
When traveling in Ireland I am often asked if "southern people (like me) are still very prejudiced against blacks". The Irish people that ask this do so often in a condescending way suggesting that the Irish in Ireland are not people subject to or beyond such feelings. (I've even had some weep in my presence at how they feel we Americans were so bad to the Indians). The late historian Shelby Foote stated that northerners have always "loved blacks as a race but hated them as individuals". The South had an opposite truth. We "loved them as individuals but hated (better stated 'held them at arm's length') as a race" in the South. We live side by side and we get along. There are occasional fruitcakes that engage in hate, but they are extremely minimal. The Irish in the northern United States have a history of being prejudiced (they actually had riots against the north for supporting freedom of slaves during the civil war). I would imagine there is not much real love lost between the Obamas and the Daley families.
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joan1954 | Jan 10, 2012, 11:04 AM EST
As a southerner who visited Chicago many years ago, I was surprised at their fear and it made me uncomfortable. Intergration was forced on the south and we learned to live with it and with African Americans but the feds didn't force it on other parts of the country the way they did in the south My grandparents generation had difficulty with it, my parents not so much so and mine, well, we're cool with it. We treat each other with respect.
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19bajspwn | Jan 10, 2012, 10:39 AM EST
Oh,,,come on,,,,On what information is this report based? So someone quit a job,,,some one wrote a book,,,,just released this past month,,,and the media,,hoping to stir up controversy takes the manuscript for TRUTH....granted,,Daley and Chicago politics is true....but,,,what is the spew about Mrs. O....
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SouthSideIrish | Jan 10, 2012, 10:37 AM EST
The Irish are the only white ethnic group left on the South Side and so they most not fear living around African-Americans as much as you might be led to believe. Because of the Richard J. Daley/Bridgeport dynamic the Irish get all the press but the most contentious "black-white" relationship on the South Side was actually with the German / Lithuanians in the Marquette Park neighborhood. After trying to lead a march through the park Dr.Martin Luther King said that "the people of Mississippi should come to Marquette Park to learn how to hate.".
Ahh, the good old days...
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joycean | Jan 10, 2012, 08:20 AM EST
unfortunately, Obama isn't the post-racial President some had hoped. Race (not Irish-Black, but White-Black) is a cause of conflict everywhere in this country.
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