Daley and Obama split also about Irish and Black relationships
Chicago Irish and African Americans have long and difficult history
Published Tuesday, January 10, 2012, 7:09 AM
Updated Tuesday, January 10, 2012, 10:29 AM
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toonwalker | Jan 12, 2012, 11:06 AM EST
Hello Niall,
Please don't post this. I just have a question or two for you.
If you and others in the media made readers put their real names and cities and towns, you would remove most of the alley apple throwing haters. I've seen their act on other web sites and the haters are just cowards who hide in the shadows behind names like nitwit789.
I didn't know Chicago has a history of tension between African Americans and Irish Americans.
Many places in our country share that history of conflict between different racial and ethnic groups. Blacks and Irish should get along. Our pasts are so similar. Discrimination up the yin yang. Look at the six counties up to 1998 and tell me that Catholics weren't treated as the blacks were in our country in the 1930's.
I was interested to read the article on the population breakdown in the north's schools. It about flipped, 60/40% Catholic now. When is the 2011 census due out?
If the numbers are there now, I hope they call a vote now. That is in the G.F. Agreement.
Another interesting article was about Ted's campaign against Mr. Romney and how it is being mimicked by gopers.
In labor we worked hard for Ted. Romney pulled even and we kicked it into overdrive. Knock and drops, stand outs, phone banks etc. Ads help, but you need grass roots ground troops to help carry the day. Ted won by about 350,000 votes. If you have an answer on the six counties 2011 census release I'd like to know. Toonwalker@comcast.net
I've enjoyed your paper for decades. Even Mr. Spain, when he writes about his family vacation to the Jersey shore.
Best,
Richard Walker
Boston MA
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maryosullivan | Jan 12, 2012, 10:50 AM EST
Irish mayors/Aldermen in City Hall absolutely do not mean pro-Irish.
I worked on the MacBride Principles resolution for fair employment in Northern Ireland with many of the Irish named elected officials fighting it every step of the way, namely Burke, O'Connor Daley. Tom Murphy, being the exception, without whose efforts would never have passed. The African-Amer. were the earliest supporters,
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seanomelbourne | Jan 11, 2012, 06:37 PM EST
Four more years
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BippyBellito | Jan 11, 2012, 04:57 PM EST
Obama has been a race baiter all of his life and his wife is worse. The Irish in Ireland have not seen that side of him yet. God forbid he gets a second term.He is one of the most incompetent presidents the U.S. has ever had! Google Fast and Furious. That enough should get him impeached. His sins are immense and against the good people of the u.S.
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eiriamach | Jan 11, 2012, 10:16 AM EST
Cheap gossip presented as fact-- why is IC giving it the time of day? In hope of a GOP victory next November. Dream on!
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IrelandNorth | Jan 11, 2012, 05:56 AM EST
The trouble with a downtrodden people is they do unto others what was done unto them, i.e discriminate. I remember reading reports of the Irish governorship of the island of Montserrat under the British Empire, and their track record for racism was disappointing. Hurt people hurt other people.
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mfinucane | Jan 11, 2012, 01:08 AM EST
i live in chicago.i don't want where i live to be like where the blacks live on the far southside & the west side. several killing everyday.i want to beable to go shopping w/o being shot & i want the kids to be outside to play. its now a matter of survival,not just racisim.
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PhlutiePhan | Jan 10, 2012, 06:00 PM EST
Do you really believe on "Hell's half acre" that if Michelle voiced her resentment that Barack (the horse that Mohammed rode)felt any different. There was never any intent to work for equality. This is pure and simple a "power play". (Black 12.57%. Irish 11.21% national US census. Ethnic groups were right to fear the influx of radical blacks. Take a look at what happened to the Irish neighborhoods in Boston. Blacks were bussed in and Boston deteriorated and has never recovered. The Catholic leadership in Chicago under radical feminist Bernardin knuckled under in the name of equality. How many Irish or German Catholics in the younger generation even go to Church? Cardinal George has no clue at all! Lisa and Mike Madigan split the spoils and nailed Blagojovicn for doing what they were thinking. Obama doesn't need Daley any more. The Catholic hierarchy itself is kneeling at the Obama throne like the Magi and Humpty Dumpty can't put morality back together again.
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merefalow | Jan 10, 2012, 05:13 PM EST
enforced multi multiculturalism,does it work anywhere except WHEN its enforced,it doesn't even work between different white tribes,it certainly doesn't work in India with its rigid caste system,the ethnic Sikh, Hindi,muslim riots ,that break out from time to time,hacidic via secular jews,in the usa the whites have moved out of the cities,and racial tensions are never far from the surface,is there anywhere on earth where people of different religions customs languages live peaceably side by side[except when its enforced]to try and enforce it and try and make out its normal,it isnt, people are tribal and always will be.the so called melting pots dont work.
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seanomelbourne | Jan 10, 2012, 05:08 PM EST
All you Obama haters be prepared for four more years.The misrepresentation of Jeremiah Wright by Fox and in particular Hannity(they left the truth on the cutting room floor) The likes of Joycean accepts titbits from Fox as fact. Wright said Goddam America for---- finish the next few sentences Joycean.
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Murph46 | Jan 10, 2012, 04:56 PM EST
Right Johnymac60-they were draft riots.Ironic that Irish Central was ahead of the curve and telling it straight on this issue as the press still spins it so different!
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joycean | Jan 10, 2012, 04:51 PM EST
I'm sure we all remember Obama's former pastor, Jeremiah Wright's sermons. Remember the "Beer Summit"? As a former high school and college instructor of racially mixed classes, I learned to be very careful. Maybe things have gotten better in the past 5-10 years.Or not. I also have noticed that certain Irish posters on IC jump on the topic of American Indians completely out of context. Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee must have been required reading in Ireland.
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johnymac60 | Jan 10, 2012, 02:44 PM EST
@faberm1. There were riots by the Irish during the Civil War, notably in New York, but desire to keep blacks enslaved was not the reason. You are ill-informed. Go back and read a little more about the events.
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