Clintons called out for signing the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996
New York Times’ columnist thinks it’s time they apologize
Published Monday, December 3, 2012, 7:46 AM
Updated Monday, December 3, 2012, 9:49 AM
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olovely | Dec 06, 2012, 08:35 AM EST
eiriamach is on the money about you anglo-norman. bigots don't get to complain they're being called bigots. that's how it works, see?
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anglo-norman | Dec 05, 2012, 03:59 PM EST
eiriamach- your getting carried away with yourself son.
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Smyrnian | Dec 05, 2012, 01:23 PM EST
The level of discourse on the site is truly abysmal!
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eiriamach | Dec 05, 2012, 10:08 AM EST
anglo-norman thinks he/she has to "call for genocide" before deserving the label "bigot"?? No, just calling for discrimination against gays and lesbians under civil law (concerning marriage) is sufficient. Just like the organized ultra-conservative Catholic Defenders, anglo-norman thinks we are stupid enough to believe that they can lobby against equal rights and still believe in the equal worth of the people they try to deprive of equal rights. Don't be ridiculous: if you really believe gays and lesbians are equal to everyone else in the eyes of God and your eyes, then you'll advocate their equal treatment under the law-- the LAW-- no one is calling for your Church to provide wedding ceremonies for them. You can protest as much as you like that you're not a bigot, but your words say otherwise, and we all have equal freedom of speech to point that out. I'd like to know: where are the Defenders of Catholic "doctrine" (about all of us being equally sons and daughters of God)? Why aren't THEY correcting the heterosexism in norman's, kaydog's, mairint's, and reynelda's words? Isn't it a sin, like all bigotry?
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Seanmor | Dec 05, 2012, 09:30 AM EST
The name of marriage bill that President Clinton signed is somewhat misleading. DOMA should have been DONMA (Defence of Natural Marriage Act) betweeen one man and one woman. The family is the cornerstone of any society, and such family consists of parents and their children, not homosexual couples of any partnerships.
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olovely | Dec 04, 2012, 08:52 PM EST
Stop whining kaydog1, no one's buying your nonsense. You can disagree with legal equality for gays but you can be accurately described as an irrational bigot for doing so. If you don't like being named and shamed don't needlessly and pointlessly discriminate.
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kaydog1 | Dec 04, 2012, 07:10 PM EST
Norman, don't you know that anyone who doesn't agree with the "Liberals" is automatically a 'bigot' and a 'homophobe'? I'm actually rather surprised that they didn't also paint you as a 'racist', as well. Libs will NOT tolerate anyone who does not agree with them.
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anglo-norman | Dec 04, 2012, 05:07 PM EST
I an only expressing my right of specch on these issues. I am not calling for a genocide of Gay people. I was called a bigot for being honest in my opinion which was wrong. I wish Gay people all the best in life but I disagree with Gay marriage & adoption as is my right.
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anglo-norman | Dec 04, 2012, 04:48 PM EST
You're free to express irrational animus against gay people (divinely inspired or not) but you can't do it and then complain you're being called a bigot, anglo-norman. Freedom of speech has nothing to do with deciding to hate or disparage other people for no rational reason.
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anglo-norman | Dec 04, 2012, 04:26 PM EST
Eschetic- I am not religious as surely my earlier posts would have made that clear to you.
I am not a bigot for stating my opinion on Gay marriage & Adoption. It is called freedom of speech.
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Eschetic | Dec 04, 2012, 11:06 AM EST
hollabackgurl may BE "sad," but she speaks simple sensible truth. anglo-norman merely spouts extremely sad, not to mention dated bigoty - even if based in his own sincere religious superstition, it is not supported by ANY reputable studies of the needs of a stable society or child welfare in a diverse society.
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anglo-norman | Dec 03, 2012, 10:35 PM EST
hollabackgurl- SAD
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hollabackgurl | Dec 03, 2012, 09:48 PM EST
I don't believe that bigots should marry or adopt children, since they're going to do more harm than gay or straight couples.
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anglo-norman | Dec 03, 2012, 09:10 PM EST
I don't believe people of the same sex should marry or adopt children.
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