Certificate of Irishness receives mixed reaction
Plan to offer Irish identity card to Diaspora
Published Monday, October 25, 2010, 5:22 AM
Updated Monday, October 25, 2010, 10:27 AM
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mamaginnty | Apr 16, 2011, 11:41 AM EDT
Go for it folks, and be proud you have that little bit of irish blood in you, no matter what nationality you are now. GoergieD is at it as usual, bigotry oozing from every pore.
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RobbCobb | Jan 08, 2011, 12:28 PM EST
This sounds like a fantastic idea to me. Not to belittle the Irish and their passion for their heritage, but I think it would be a cool idea just from the novelty of it. I have Irish ancestory from my maternal Grandmother's side of the family, and though she wasn't outspoken about it, she was alway proud of her heritage. I'd love the connection for my sons and I.
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Dublinjas | Oct 30, 2010, 07:56 PM EDT
Another alcohol fueled idea of a straw to be grasped at.
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haikued2 | Oct 29, 2010, 11:26 AM EDT
PS..and officially a "Fighting Irish" guy.
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haikued2 | Oct 29, 2010, 11:25 AM EDT
OK..Grandmother Kennedy, (Irish or Scot?), great grandmother, Murphy, two visits to Ireland, one son lives there. Do I qualify?
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GeorgeDillon | Oct 27, 2010, 08:28 AM EDT
SeamusMor: You make a good suggestion. But I wouldn't buy into your "Haj" suggestion, however interesting I find it. I say that great grandchildren of Irish should be fastracked to Irish residency, the equivalent of the Green Card. Then, if they live in Ireland and behave themselves for the requisite 5 years, give them citizenship. After all, they have more entitlement and loyalty to Ireland than Latvians, Pakistanis, Nigerians etc.
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SeamusMor | Oct 26, 2010, 12:32 PM EDT
The Irish government should extend the right to apply for citizenship to the great grand children of people born in Ireland, provided that they visit Ireland to obtain the Irish Heritage Certificate. It would be like the Muslim "Hajj", the sacred obligation to visit Mecca at least once in their lives. " You must visit Ireland at least once in your life to be considered truly Irish." should be the line. This would cause a spike in tourism, for the like of which there is no precedent. Millions of tourists mean billions of Euros to the Irish economy. Some of those who might never have traveled to Ireland except to get the heritage certificate will fall in love with the place and want to come back. There will be others who want to invest in Irish businesses, buy homes, live and retire in Ireland. The Celtic Tiger might roar once more!
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McSpartacus | Oct 26, 2010, 11:58 AM EDT
@DanDennehy: I'm native-born Irish, and I certainly hope people like yourself will sign up for it - and ask for more! The big issue that I think they are afraid of, is the healthcare costs. Frankly, I hope they can square that in future with the local spending/investment power of "wealthy Americans" who return.
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McSpartacus | Oct 26, 2010, 11:52 AM EDT
@Pittsburghkid: schemes like this one are often useful to sign up for as gateways to other possibilities opened up in the future. Bureaucracy in Ireland is funny like that. It may be that at some stage they decide to offer another scheme, or change this one, and "grandfather" previous participants into any newer expanded scheme with more paperwork/restrictions but better opportunities. Might be worth your consideration signing up for it even if it seems to be lacking right now.
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McSpartacus | Oct 26, 2010, 11:48 AM EDT
@Annie O: if you have two grandparents that are documented as being born in Ireland, you almost certainly qualify for Irish citizenship if you so choose. Something to consider.
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McSpartacus | Oct 26, 2010, 11:44 AM EDT
@plastic paddy: Dual citizenship is not illegal.
There may be issues as to whether you are getting non-US citizenship by swearing an oath of allegiance to another state. If you got it through birthright/parentage, not so much. The issue of the US "recognising" dual-citizenship I don't understand - it's not a separate category of US citizen. Whether you decide to inform government authorities is up to the individual - I presume most people would consider it their own private business and avoid any potential hassle e.g. at airports.
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Annie O | Oct 25, 2010, 10:44 PM EDT
Both of my Grandparents where born and raised in Ireland. I have always loved the songs my grandfather would sing to me. I am a natural redhead like my grandmotherand I have the irish temper of my Dad. I love Ireland and her people. I have never been to Ireland but I feel as if it is my home. I for one would be proud and honored if I could be reconized as the Granddaughter of two irish citizens. I know that if my grandfather where alive today he would with the twinkel in his eye and a smile on his face be one very proud irishman knowing that his Granddaughter was going to be welcome home to a land he loved till the day he died. Because of my Grandparents stories and songs I feel as if Ireland is also my home.
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Pittsburghkid | Oct 25, 2010, 08:39 PM EDT
I'm not a Native American, even though I am a fourth generation Irish American.
Now because my great-grandfather was my last ancestor born in Ireland, I can become an Irish Citizen. I feel like a man without a country.
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nygalwaygirl | Oct 25, 2010, 05:12 PM EDT
Plastic Paddy, it's totally untrue that dual citizenship is illegal -
You might look up and see what the State Department says - http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html
It's clear it's not illegal, and only becomes a problem if you take on the citizenship of another country with the intention of giving up your US citizenship. Hardly the case for most people taking advantage of Irish citizenship.
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