Cardinal Timothy Dolan blasts New York Times coverage of payments to priests

Kit Marlowe, the USCCB's 2011 John Jay five-study was not the only report released by the bishops last year. I drew from their one-year data in "The 2011 Annual Report on the Implementation of the 'Charter for the Protection of Children and Young People'” on cases from 2010. All these reports are available on line. I don't invent statistics about child abuse cases. I avoided the skewed data in the John Jay report, which has received heavy criticism for its pretense that 10-year-old boys are post-puberty and its inane conclusion that, therefore, the men who abused them were homosexuals rather than pedophiles! This trumpery, along with the John Jay Report's "Woodstock excuse," renders it useless except as a PR ploy. It would be strange indeed if homosexual priests had such a high rate of child rape in contrast to other homosexuals, who have an exceptionally low rate of sexual violence and rape. Your moral relativism in attributing the Church's shame to the social environment is not nearly as offensive as your anti-Semitic slander.

The scandal in the church was caused by homosexual pederasts who have a long history of abusing young boys. It is interesting that Los Leandros cites a genuine source for his facts, (the Jay College Report), and eiriamach pretends to refute him by pulling facts out of his...hat. Here's another resource: "The Rite of Sodomy" by Randy Engel. It's 1300 pages, exhaustively researched and footnoted. At the heart of the scandal is the homosexual infiltration into the Church, and the Church fathers had long warned against this WELL KNOWN PROBLEM. Obfuscators will continue to lie despite the obvious evidence. Meanwhile society continues its moral spiral downward, watching satanic rituals during the superbowl half-time and being enslaved by international Jewish bankers.

I think Los leandros point is that these predators shanly,geoghan and the like were homosexual pedophiles, for a male homosexual rapist it is a good place to infiltrate, You live among men, you attain knowledge and power while planning your crimes. You hide behind the good works of others and all you have to do is lie and believe there is no God.

Dolan and his ilk will be the downfall of the Catholic church.

eiriamach. Good post. I don`t think the percentages matter all that much. One case is enough to suffice. A cover up is exactly that and beyond defence.

Los Leandros, before you post, you should try to get your facts right; the facts are nearly opposite to what you've written. A full 20% of the victims in the USCCB's 2011 report were UNDER THE AGE OF 10! The largest percentage, 53%, were between 10 and 14. Do you really think that most 11-year-old boys are post-pubertal? No, you can't blame those rapes on homosexual priests; the rapists in the vast majority of cases were pedophiles. Only 20% of the victims were age 15 to 17-- Fact! And how are these facts relevant to the article on Dolan? Is it OK for a diocesan administrator to protect a rogue priest if he is having sex with post-pubertal youth? Can you really believe that even the 20% who may have been post-pubertal were "consenting" partners rather than victims of abuse? Do you know what "gullible" means?

Maximum respect to Cardinal Dolan for standing up to the NYT bullies. Just to reiterate, according to the reputable John Jay College report, the vast majority ( over 90% ) of abusers in the Catholic Church were predatory homosexual, not paedophile - facts is facts, as we say in Ireland. Incidentally recent horrific figures of the deaths of children in the " care " of the Irish state were revealed ; with hardly a murmer from the Irish media. Hopefully the Irish Church will learn from Cardinal Dolan, and tell the State to get it's own house in order before lecturing others.

HermitTalker. The church has had ample time, numerous inquiries, internal investigations etc etc to get its act together, yet still churns out the arogance that it got by on, for too long. Innocence of all the booty in one pot another consequence of the above. We can accuse anyone of twisting stories etc. What strength in any thing the church has already compiled by not allowing the victims any input. We can hardly blame legalities or the culture of claims that exist in the present day. They are a seperate issue and one the church would have got to terms with earlier had they relised their santuary to peadophiles was about to be exposed.

Tom, Thanks for you post. It is indeed deeper than I had invisaged.

SNAP does not need credibility (although they have it with me), hermitTalker. SNAP brought the *material evidence* in this case-- documents included in the Archdiocese bankruptcy filing-- to public view. Those documents tell the facts of the case against Cardinal Dolan. Now, if you have some COUNTER-EVIDENCE, let's hear it! Otherwise, your claim that the news reports "twist the facts, spin the stories and lie" is nothing more than a wearying sour-grapes complaint about damaging news that you can do nothing about. Nothing? Actually, confession, repentance and reform by church officials might do some good, but no guarantees at this point. As for your suggestion that the Archdiocese was right to fraudulently transfer money because the victims of abusive priests deserve NO financial compensation whereas the abusive priests DO deserve their retirement pay and defense funds, let's put that to a vote!

How can we exercise freedom of speech and religion IF the axe-grinders are able to twist the facts, spin the stories and lie when the facts are ignored. Seems so many on here have minds made up, facts optional. SNAP credible?? Their own statements and the expose of their national meeting by a plant proved that. Catholic dioceses had to set up Foundations to protest their retirement funds and special other monies to save them from open season by the lawyers. The bishops had innocently kept them in one Big Pot trusting the law and the Constitution. The civil law allows specific exemptions legally to avoid being sued and thrown out on the street by snake lawsuits.

New Yorh Times where is the proof? Name names and dates.

All of those payoffs are in the past and we're ready to be your moral guardians again, OK?

Hello Seamus60 I have to say that during the "Glory Days" of Bernie Law may he RIP in Rome, the horrors of the training these predators received in the seminary was exposed. Given the reports, they should all burn in Hell. The names are legion. Best one: Shanley. Don't forget Geoghan and the people who kept him in the seminary in spite of the issues raised by his superiors while he "studied" there.

One: PLEASE provide me with one example when DODO Dolan demonstrated similar "charity" to the victims of sexual abuse of children by ordained priests? Would welcome that information even if it would not change my mind about DODO. Second, no where in his screed do I detect the slightest hint of a denial that those founds were indeed spent, Does anyone know if those pedophiles received more funds from DODO?