Cardinal Law told Mary McAleese he was ‘sorry for Catholic Ireland to have you as President’
Former Irish president reveals blazing row with disgraced US Cardinal on Boston visit
Published Sunday, October 7, 2012, 7:23 AM
Updated Sunday, October 7, 2012, 7:38 AM
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RichardP | Oct 07, 2012, 02:21 PM EDT
@Gearoid4: I appreciate the point you are making Gearoid but when Cardinal Law lectured President McAleese about the Catholic Church's rules he did so from a very weak position having broken the very selectively himself.
If a member of the RCC accepts the organization's position on female clerics I do not intend to criticize them but the act of that evil man lecturing a Head of State about her position is repugnant. It would be like an Parish Priest in Montana lecturing the Premier of Quebec on resource conservation.
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SisterMaureen | Oct 07, 2012, 02:08 PM EDT
Why is it that articles like this fail to shock or surprise me any more? The chutzpah, the arrogance of this man! Clericalism - the abuse of power and authority is still very much alive in the RCC.
I especially agree with the following statements of the former Irish president Mary McAleese:
Speaking ahead of her book launch in Rome, McAleese also said Irish bishops got their handling of abusive priests ‘glaringly wrong’.
She attributed this to ‘utterly atrocious advice and lack of training’.
She added: “The Irish bishops were regrettably in thrall to a few canon lawyers whose views held sway.
“The advice seems to have been to ignore canon law and ignore civil law.
Sister Maureen Paul Turlish
Advocate for Victim/Survivors & Legislative Reform
New Castle, DE, USA
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Joe Kelsall | Oct 07, 2012, 01:59 PM EDT
Jeez! Mary McAleese should have guessed the intellect of her attacker. His initials are BF!
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Gearoid4 | Oct 07, 2012, 01:58 PM EDT
One can sympathize with the situation that Mary McAleese found herself in, pertaining to the arrogant and condescending lecture that she received from Cardinal Law, without having to agree with her views regarding such issues as male-only priesthood. It would be a pity that one would have to bring up the terrible scandal of child-abuse to use as a weapon to hit those who happen to agree with the Church position with integrity and firmness of belief.
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RuthAnn | Oct 07, 2012, 01:54 PM EDT
Bernard Francis Law should have been denied his status and title in the Catholic church, as soon as his coverup of the child abuse scandals in Boston were revealed!
This man is a loose cannon of pomposity beyond comprehension! Where, oh where is the Light of Christ in this servant of God's life? Snuffed out I'm afraid by illusions of grandeur. Give it up, Bernard Law!
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RichardP | Oct 07, 2012, 01:49 PM EDT
So glad I gave you the chance to get on your podium again WoundedKnee - perhaps you can go to the UN and argue that Ireland is not a Sovereign Nation - or at the EU or anywhere else you can contrive in your 'cleverer-than-all-the-rest' mind. When your definition(whatever it is) of Sovereign Nation' is accepted legally then I'll accept it too.
Her salary is irrelevant to the issue between her and Cardinal Break the Law.
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katiemac | Oct 07, 2012, 01:26 PM EDT
And I am sure it came as a complete shock to McAleese that she was out of step with the Church. Cardinal Law had it right.
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pilib04 | Oct 07, 2012, 01:22 PM EDT
As I have posted on a number of occasions here, Bernard Law should be returned to the USA to stand trial for his participation in cover-ups, concealment and facilitation of Child RAPE!!! This cruel, foul, sad excuse of a human, should be tried by a jury of his peers! It is an absolute disgrace that Holy Mother Church continues to hide this animal. Of course, he is not the only one in hiding in the Vatican. Unfortunately there are way too many. "Cardinal" William Levada (the former head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the man who attacked our American Sisters) is another one of these criminals hiding out.
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WoundedKnee | Oct 07, 2012, 01:15 PM EDT
RichardP: "a Sovereign Nation".... Are you crazy? Ireland a sovereign nation? Haven't you been reading the news for the past few years? And how about McAleese's pension--maybe a quarter a million a year? For 14 years "work". Not bad, eh? Gives her plenty opportunity to spout off garbage.
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RichardP | Oct 07, 2012, 01:05 PM EDT
Cardinal is a guy playing dress up, covering up the criminal acts of his fellow employees in an organization that creates fears among millions in order to lead them into thrall with an organization that cares little for real Christianity.
@Phlutie: You think McAleese is the problem here? What colour is the sky in your world?
One of the participants as the Head of State (albeit more ceremonial than functional) of a Sovereign Nation; the other was a regional manager of an organization which has conspired in criminal acts by its staff and condoned the unspeakable suffering inflicted on thousand - millions over the centuries.
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redhand32 | Oct 07, 2012, 12:49 PM EDT
His Holiness Herr Ratzinger, and his Knights of the Round Table like Pedo enabler Law basically threw the RC Church and laity under the bus to preserve the hierarchy. Consequently, the Criminal Conspiracy (aka the Catholic hierarchy) has lost all credibility and moral authority, including criticism of Ms. McAleese.Of course there will always be those coat holders such as Wild Bill Donohue who will defend Herr Ratzinger, Law and their ilk to the death. As a result of the criminal conspiracy and its resulting irrelevance, Catholic schools, churches and other RC institutions are closing all over the place in my area, as the hierarchy continues to demand even more money from the laity to support what should otherwise be allegedly prosecutable under Rico Criminal Conspiracy statutes in the US.
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Nicomax | Oct 07, 2012, 12:47 PM EDT
Bernie The Enabler messed up so badly he was forced to sell his large house and surrounding acreage to Boston College using the proceeds to pay off the church's legal fees and payments to the abused. His next home should not have been the Vatican but Walpole State Prison.
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barneyjo | Oct 07, 2012, 12:38 PM EDT
@jetsnoone & phlutiephan - what the last few years has taught that when the truth is out there it WILL set you free. Of course you have to let that happen. You can deny it if you choose, but it doesnt make that truth any less!! Mary McAleese has not expressed a more critical view than has already been expressed by others within the Church; the best example of which I can think of is Saint Pio, who left us in no doubt as to the views of Christ on the stewardship of the church on earth. At least this should be the case for "true" believers!!
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butlerreport | Oct 07, 2012, 12:37 PM EDT
Law is a criminal who ran to Rome when he saw trouble coming. He should be in a US prison not cloistered with his frocked buddies in Italy.
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