Canada now competing with Australia in “brain drain” of Irish workforce
Canada hopes to lure workers in with promises of permanent residency
Published Thursday, March 22, 2012, 8:20 AM
Updated Thursday, March 22, 2012, 10:44 AM
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IrelandNorth | Mar 28, 2012, 08:19 AM EDT
Will the "brain drain of the Irish workforce" (sic) not leave the Irish economy with an occupationally lobotomised workforce? Dah! Maybe that's what explains so many foreign workers in Ireland at present. Would it not make more sense to control foreign immigration to stall native emigration. Probably politically incorrect to be so economically rational.
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timbobdennehy | Mar 24, 2012, 09:01 PM EDT
i like angrypaddy's view.i will like to add train people,while you are in ireland. someone had to train you.just before you leave our shore for the moolah they wont pay you at home.
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Trishaboland | Mar 23, 2012, 11:54 PM EDT
Yes Ciara, what you're saying is true, but its still quite difficult to get those professional positions, as I said you generally have to meet Canadian provincial/federal standards for your profession before you get a job. You can't simply walk into a professional position out there on arrival, most professions are regulated. In my own case, I am qualified as a pharmacist, but I can not work in Canada with my Irish qualifications alone - I would have to attend university for a year and get Canadian qualifications to meet the provincial/federal standards. I would then need to get an internship with a Canadian company in order to get experience, and for this you need contacts. So theres more barriers to getting professional positions than you think. I don't doubt what you say that some who moved over there over the past 10 years and have jobs that pay well, but they either had these positions lined up in advance of going there, or they would have to follow the route to get accreditation for the relevant profession, most clearly have done so. However, Ive seen many immigrants, not all Irish, struggle to get this, due to the lack of recognition and/or insufficient qualifications, lack of cash to attend college/uni to get the relevant Canadian qualifications, lack of contacts to get an internship - so there's more barriers to getting a professional position than you think. In many case, I didn't bother looking for any positions in the pharmaceutical industry,as I got no response from hardly any position I applied for, only one blunt response saying I haven't got North American qualifications or experience. I just worked in a restaurant my 1st year, and a call centre my 2nd. Nice experience, a good country, but would not choose to settle there long term.
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ciaradexy | Mar 23, 2012, 05:17 PM EDT
Trisha, people arent given visas to work in shops and restaurants. Professionals are being head hunted at Job Fairs in Ireland every week. I know many who have moved there over the past 10 years and they all have great jobs that pay very well.
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ciaradexy | Mar 23, 2012, 05:16 PM EDT
Angry'Paddy'-there are no handouts in the US, Australia or New Zealand and there are thousands of Irish there. Whats you next useless snippet of information?
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Trishaboland | Mar 22, 2012, 06:55 PM EDT
Well whether you can get a good job matching your skills on arrival in Canada is another story. I would be curious to know though what type of jobs Irish professionals are working in out there, whether its in their field or in survival jobs (bars, shops, restaurants, call centres).
The reason being I lived and worked out there for 2 years in the early to mid 2000′s. One thing I noticed was that it was extremely hard for any new immigrants to get into any professional roles there – their qualifications weren’t fully recognised, meaning they had to do extra studies, then look to get some experience with a Canadian firm.They also needed contacts to get a good position. All this while they had to work in survival jobs to keep themselves, not to mention the cost of studying in North America. So theres a lot of barriers to getting a good job in Canada, its not a matter of walking straight into one when you arrive there, contrary to what some might think. I know for many professions you do need to do extra studies and get accreditation, ( I certainly would have had to in the area of pharmaceutical studies) but maybe this isn't the case for IT, construction?
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ciaradexy | Mar 22, 2012, 04:35 PM EDT
Hey Tommy, Ive no plans to go anywhere as I have a job. I have a lot of mates who are working their way around the world at the mo. All of them are highly skilled and qualified with plenty of experience behind them and they have had no issues getting work anywhere. I have had job offers in a few different countries as I have a medical qualification but Im grand here.
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tommymccarthy | Mar 22, 2012, 04:04 PM EDT
Hello you 2 guys i worked in Alberta Canada was recruited in Scotland,the money was good when working, when not working not your fault it was to cold you were of pay that is how you are treated so please find out before you go about the money first
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ciaradexy | Mar 22, 2012, 03:51 PM EDT
Steven man, switch off the feckin caps lock! Loved Australia and NZ. My bro is in Wellington at the mo. Hes considering a move to Canada now too. Hes gonna try it out and see if he wants to settle there or back in NZ or Aus. Aus is immense but its just so far from home!
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STEVENSTAR | Mar 22, 2012, 10:21 AM EDT
WHY NOT? WE IRISH LOVE CANADA AUSTRALIA AND THE UK... THATS WHERE MOST OF US MIGRATE TO THESE DAYS !!! IL OVE CANADA APART FROM THE SNOW SO PREFER OZ FOR THE WEATEHR ..
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