In controversial remarks, CNN travel writer Eva Sandoval, has stated that Ireland’s St. Patrick’s Day parade is a disaster area for tourists with “vomit-lined streets and exposed genitalia."
Her list of best and worst in Ireland include the parade.
She writes:
Don't.... attend the St. Patrick's Day Parade
Celebrating St. Patrick's Day in Dublin is a bucket-list goal for many -- too many. Try to be content with simply being in-country for the holiday, unless you like vomit-lined streets, exposed genitalia and sidewalk-to-sidewalk crowds.
She says almost everyone is drunk in Temple Bar.
Don't ... get lit in Temple Bar
Once Dublin's Jewish ghetto, Temple Bar is now home to several bars that drunken tourists in green face paint love to frequent. There are lovely things to see in historic Temple Bar -- for example, the Irish Photography Centre, the Temple Bar Music Centre and the Irish Film Institute -- but save your tour for the daytime, before things get pagan.
Also on her don’t list:
Don't ... call an Irishman (or Irishwoman) British
This goes for the whole of the Republic of Ireland. Want to start a fistfight? Talk about how Dublin is the greatest capital city in the UK; tourist goes down.
She also says authentic Irish music is very hard to find.
Don't ... expect an "authentic" trad music session
These days, catching a trad music session in Dublin is like watching a rodeo in New York City. While you might get some sessions in touristy Temple Bar or at The Duke, you'll have better luck finding spontaneous traditional Irish music out on the West Coast or in the countryside.
On the plus side, she recommends a pint of Guinness, Viking tours, getting outside Dublin and even Irish food.
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.palmeiras | Jun 24, 2011, 01:19 PM EDT
now george you lowest of the low, why dont you just f... off and jump in the sewer, you sewer rat
GeorgeDillon | Jun 23, 2011, 10:09 AM EDT
It's a sure bet, I'd put a grand on it: Show an Irishman that he's talking garbage and he starts tallking filth. In this case, his obsession with body size, evident from his opening "I bet he's 100 lbs overweight to". Pameieras, you're foulmouthed scum. And a coward too, because in the real world you skulk away from confrontation with real men. You're only a "virtual" tough!
palmeiras | Jun 22, 2011, 07:11 PM EDT
george dillon/wounded knee is still at it; look, you low life, I am not sirpeter and I am not 300lbs; in fact I've run a number of marathons; hom many have you ran? you seem to be obsessed with fat; this indicates to me that you're the fat loud mouth pig; in other words a typical american; also, what part can't you understand : Ireland as part of the E.U. is practically the same as any of the u.s. states being part of the union; now fo jump in a river you scumbag and pollute it with your filthy lice ridden body.
GeorgeDillon | Jun 18, 2011, 09:22 AM EDT
Another piece of flatulence from the 300 lb gorilla palmeiras aka sirpeter. This bigot seems to think everyone is as dumb as he is. He says the magic words "the EU makes us do it" and thereby wipes his own infantile brain of all responsibilty. If the EU told you to jump in the Irish Sea, would you do it, you fat creep? If the EU told you to pay back billions of euros that you never borrowed, would you do it? Come to think of it, I guess you would, because you're a spineless lump of Irish blubber.
palmeiras | Jun 16, 2011, 06:56 PM EDT
george dillon is at it again, insulting and abusive; well i'll give it right back; I bet you're obese and big mouthed like most yanks, no matter what you say. Also you are too stupid to understand that most,not all,of the foreign migrants {as you call them} are from within the E.U. and have a right to be in Ireland. Can your bird size brain understand this or does your obnoxiousness get in the way? and boy george, dont take my word for it; when I was in oz and n.z. [have you heard of these countries?} they said the same thing about you yanks. Even the brits say it {special relationship or not}. So there you have it wounded george; or are you going to say, because of your arrogance, that everyone else is wrong and you are right? and last you idiota {that's portuguese by the way}, I am not sir peter, ok you imbecile? now go jump in in your backyard sewer. Over and out.
GeorgeDillon | Jun 16, 2011, 02:59 PM EDT
Ad hominem attacks such as that by palmeiras aka sirpeter are so absurd, aren't they? I am accused of being fat (didn't you ever see the Irish fatties waiting in line with their sacks of duty-free booze at JFK or Newark Airport, sirpeter? I bet you'd need a periscope to see your toes.) As it happens I am not more than 4 or 5 pounds above my ideal weight, sir peter palmeiras, and I show within normal values for other indices such as height, lipids, vision, penis size, blood pressure etc. Happy, sirpete palmeiras? Now your homework for today is write a logical and unabusive justification of why a small country would import vast throngs of foreign migrants even when there is no work and the native people are emigrating. Or else refrain from posting your imbecilities here.
palmeiras | Jun 15, 2011, 04:08 PM EDT
GeorgeDillon, a.k.a. wounded knee, is the hypocrite of all time; he's the one who resorts to abuse and agression--just check his comments on this site; like I said below, he's the typical american one meets overseas, just plain obnoxious in every sense of the word. I bet he's 100 lbs overweight too, typical,typical; and by the way, Ireland's education system is way ahead of the usa's; wounded george proves that again and again.
GeorgeDillon | Jun 15, 2011, 08:40 AM EDT
McGlynn0704: What you post is sadly valid. As to Palmeiras--why are Irish people unable to argue logically and dispassionately, but always have to resort to abuse and agression? Is it something in their education system, such as it is? By the way palmeiras, the last time I checked I was far from wounded--in fact all parts are operating at over 99% efficiency. Can't say the same for your brain!
palmeiras | Jun 14, 2011, 08:05 PM EDT
Eva Sandoval should look at "her own" parades, namely Cinco de Mayo and the Puerto Rican day parades, where there's worse behaviour than in Dublin; violence-broken windows on 5th avenue etc. Also,would george dillon/wounded and kneecapped go to hell off this site. They [he] are just typical obnoxious americans-loud, crass and obnoxious still more; go and stay busy with your stupid red neck tea party.
McGlynn0704 | Jun 14, 2011, 12:26 AM EDT
The Dublin St. Pat's Day Parade is an embarrassment to the Republic. To think that people gave their lives so that this drunken revelry would represent our culture and become a symbol of our civilization. Very sad.
Padraig8 | Jun 13, 2011, 08:38 PM EDT
Well i answered once BUT it dissapeared,ive been there saw that and once was enough,its true that in the Us its regulated during the parade, but in the aftermath its chaos ms sandoval was spot on about the parade in Dublin. It shouldnt come as a surprise its that way in any country when the people are as packed in as they are for the festivites. dublin is not a nice place in general not like the west "up Mayo" And her comment about British Isles ,Ireland is NOT British, "tiocfaidh ar la" in english OUR DAY WILL COME 26 6 = 1
peterson | Jun 13, 2011, 02:47 PM EDT
Yes, some idiots are going way to far. Perhaps it is time to make some rules and enforce them.
Irishphotograph | Jun 13, 2011, 02:22 PM EDT
Shes right
haikued2 | Jun 13, 2011, 12:29 PM EDT
Temple Bar still has some good points for tourists, but "trad" music is centered in Doolin. If you don't spend time there you haven't really enjoyed what traditional music is or what it means. But, the Harp in Sligo has a nice mix of traditional and pub music..When Patsy Watchorn was at the Lower Deck it was my favorite place...but it is/was an IRA centric pub...still young and old enjoyed the music and dancing...so you can enjoy traditional music and the later music of people like Luke Kelly and Patsy...and Coulter...etc. Open your ears and your minds...history songs are as old as music.
haikued2 | Jun 13, 2011, 12:23 PM EDT
Have son and family in Dublin..attended the 2010 parade and we all had fun. The kids got to be right up at the barricade. Just a whole bunch of people having fun...people from all over the world...I have pix of Chinese kids all dolled up in green and having a great time...NO the Irish are not British, nor English, and that is a really good thing. Be proud of being part of a people with great history and pride...and stop worrying about morons who think all the Irish are drunks...BUT a pint or two now and then is a grand thing.
Springfield9 | Jun 13, 2011, 11:45 AM EDT
@GeargieD - those of us who do listen to, and play, Irish music are called "Trad Nazis" ...... LOL. Better the name than having to listen to the modern wreckage of traditional (history) songs!
wyalusingjohn | Jun 13, 2011, 07:54 AM EDT
Anyone who has been to Ireland knows that the Temple Bar is a place to visit in the daylight and to avoid like the plaque at night. this is the same situation in many large cities in the world, (New York and Washington DC come to mind}. I have not been to the Dublin St. Pats parade but the Cork parade was quite nice. I will start my 14th two week Irish visit this week and will have no trouble finding traditional music and it won't be in the tourist towns where the brits and yanks outnumber the irish
deburca | Jun 13, 2011, 06:06 AM EDT
@WoundedKnee - in order for her to find out Irish people don't like to be called "British" she would have had to have called some of them British. Also, I lived in Dublin for over a year and now spend every summer in Ireland, have relatives and friends there. My husband is Irish and my son is an Irish citizen. I have as much or more experience with Ireland that this author and I am giving my opinion based upon my experience. I've attended St. Patrick's Day parades, and just like many who have posted here, I agree that there was none of the bad behavior this author claims to have seen - but then I went for the parade and wasn't roaming the streets hours afterward. I'm sure the late night revellers get rowdy, just as they do here in the States. The St. Patrick's Day Parade in Ireland is very family and tourist friendly and the festivities usually start with fireworks the day before the parade and a music concert after the parade in Stephen's Green. You, WoundedKnee, have no idea what you're talking about so why even try?
WoundedKnee | Jun 13, 2011, 04:02 AM EDT
Posted by deburca on Jun 13, 2011, 12:17 AM EDT "Anyone stupid enough to call an Irish person "British" has no business writing about Dublin's St. Patrick's Day parade" And anyone stupid enough to misread an article has no business criticizing its author. Show me where the above author Eva Sandoval called an Irish person "British". Don't lie. And, unlike a lot of posters here, both American and Irish, Eva actually knows Ireland well, since she studied and lived there. There used to be people who were willing to die for Ireland, but this site is full of people who are happy to lie for Ireland. You don't fool anyone, Ireland is a country with a long list of problems, economic, social and cultural. Burying your head in the sand just leaves you with your ass to talk out of.
deburca | Jun 13, 2011, 12:17 AM EDT
Anyone stupid enough to call an Irish person "British" has no business writing about Dublin's St. Patrick's Day parade. I've been to it and other than the weather I saw none of the behavior stated in this article. Maybe, I'm not sure, it gets wild after the parade at the bars - just as it does in the US - but the parade itself is a family affair.
islenita | Jun 12, 2011, 07:50 PM EDT
She should stay home I march in Philly and they have strict rules let her come there. Better yet let her do a piece on Cinco de Mayo celebrations either in CA or MX she'll see plenty of the same antics. As for not finding real music she must have lost her ears and eyes
mamaginnty | Jun 12, 2011, 07:42 PM EDT
We in Ireland have never called any part of Dublin..downtown, that is an american saying. GoergieD is one sick whacko, so full of hatred for the irish people, hatred for the polish and every other nationality, there is one group in America that would love to have him join, he would fit in perfectly although he does sound as if he joined them years ago.
Ajreaper | Jun 12, 2011, 06:53 PM EDT
Been in Dublin for St. Patricks and saw absolutely nothing even close to what is mentioned in the article- no vomit at all and no nudity at all. Temple bar was never as described- folks party late, some get loud and intoxicated for sure but that true in many other cities and countries- try spring break hot spots in the States. I have celebrated St Patricks day in both Dublin and Belfast and would gladly do so again.
ConchPotato | Jun 12, 2011, 02:54 PM EDT
Anywhere you have large crowds celebrating a national holiday, you will have some who complain that the meaning of the day is lost and there is too much inappropriate behavior. You'll find the same kind of complaints in Washington, DC on July 4th and in Paris on July 14th. That's just human nature. Trolls spouting off with foul smelling moronic drivel on cultural web sites is also par for the course. I'm proud to be Irish everyday and a little bad behavior in the streets on St. Patrick's Day won't tarnish that pride. As for allowing other cultures to join in the celebration, the more the merrier! On 3/17 everyone can be Irish.
seamusdenais | Jun 12, 2011, 02:18 PM EDT
St. Patrick's day is about being Irish. Parades are paramount to the atmosphere. It's all about having a fun time and not being too serious. Lighten up vEva Sandoval & CNN.
Liamkeyes | Jun 12, 2011, 01:51 PM EDT
Stay out of Temple Bar unless you don't mind paying 6 Euro ans 50 Pence (Approx. $10) for a pint. Come out of Temple Bar on to Dame Street, cross over at the Lights to Great Georges Street. Walk up about 200 Yards to the first Traffic Lights at William Street, 3rd shop on left is a pub...3 euro ( a little over $2 for a Pint of Guinness, Carlsberg or Budweiser. Drink with the locals, you can't go wrong. You can always go down to Temple Bar later when you get a glow on. Do not eat or drink in Temple Bar!!!!!
garyirish | Jun 12, 2011, 01:12 PM EDT
Who cares what Eva what's her name said? On a related note, when I first moved to San Francisco in the late 70s, I was on a bus on my way home from work. There were two old Irish women sitting in front of me talking. The one lady asked the other about the upcoming Gay parade (they were fairly new then and she had never seen one). The other woman, who appeared to be the expert on gay parades (at least according to her) said (in a beautiful Irish brogue) "Oh honey, their parades are just like our St. Patrick's Day Parades, everybody dresses up silly, gets drunk and eventually heads home". I laughed and laughed. But you know, she was kind of right.
Springfield9 | Jun 12, 2011, 01:03 PM EDT
The "Dubs" failed to realize that the parade in New York is highly regulated and used to show that "we" are a respectable people - not a mob.
Pittsburghkid | Jun 12, 2011, 12:30 PM EDT
In Pittsburgh, the St. Patrick's Day Parade is a family event. Organizers have curtained public drinking in the Parade route, which the police are enforcing. Actually, it's the Bars, that promote St. Patrick's Day as a Drinking Holiday. Bars in Pittsburgh have been hurt by the Drunk Driving Laws, since the 80's. St. Patrick to the Bars is like Christmas is to the Department Stores. Anti-St. Patrick Day stories are just journalist with nothing on there minds trying to write something.
GeorgeDillon | Jun 12, 2011, 12:17 PM EDT
Momma Ginnty: "Pakistan Nigeria Afghanistan was never mentioned because it does not happen" Momma, you're an inveterate liar. Or maybe just a dope--a few weeks back you told us that you didn't know where downtown Dublin was. Are you sure you were in Dublin on 3/17? Because if you viewed the parade you'd have seen seen countless floats manned by people from the countries I mentioned. and a dozen others. Why doesn't Dublin give up scamming tourists by claiming to mount an Irish festival on 3/17? It isn't an Irish festival, it's more like a festival of All World Cultures (except Ireland's). As to haterjacer, it's obvious he has no interest or love for Irish music, because if he did he wouldn't claim it can be heard widely in Dublin. Most Irish people such as haterjacer actually sneer at Irish music, which they call Diddle-Die music. The Irish--we can't respect them, because they haven't earned our respect.
mamaginnty | Jun 12, 2011, 12:13 PM EDT
Come to think of it....I'd love to slap that Eva one and her comrade below in the mouth, just love a gid ould fist fight.
GeorgeDillon | Jun 12, 2011, 12:10 PM EDT
trealach--haven't noticed any post by you recently, but you certainly remain an imbecile. Farcical to see a monolingual moron like you impugn someone who knows far more Irish language and culture than will ever get into your empty head. Mar atá cruthaithe agam go minic ar an suíomh seo, tá níos mó Gaeilge agam ná atá ag amadáin mar thusa, a phleidhche bhomanta. As to the poster goldenblade, why do you like to see Ireland's national day being used to honor other countries and cultures? No respect for your own, eh? Guess you'd be surprised to be in Paris on Bastille Day. Guess what -- the French honor France on July 14th! They must be wacists!
Trealach | Jun 12, 2011, 11:58 AM EDT
@jacersagain - I couldn't agree with you more - and to think that Nial O'Dowd who constantly spews hatred towards the Irish, has the audacity to tell people that he has been "Invited" to run for the Presidency. As for that moronic Irish hater "GeorgeDillion", we can do without alien tourists like him. One can only wonder can any of the three i.e. "Sandoval", "O'Dowd" or "Dillon" even recognise Trad music.
mamaginnty | Jun 12, 2011, 11:53 AM EDT
Eva is quite right when she mentions the tourists in Temple Bar, Germans French and Americans mainly the younger generations. They really let thier hair down, all head for Temple Bar, the irish people could not afford to go there. Thats where you will see the cleaner machines out at 6am cleaning up the rubbish and vomit. The Parade, well I go most years with my grandchildren, would I take them there if it was as bad as eva say's...no, hundreds of children go, so that puts a sock in eva's mouth for a start. Pakistan Nigeria Afghanistan was never mentioned because it does not happen, but of course they are always mentioned in certain comments by a certain ee.....Dublin is as nice as any capital can be, but Temple Bar is for the young tourist. last but not least if a tourist spent so much money coming to Dublin Ireland and thinks it is the U.K well they deserve a slap on the mouth to knock some sense into them.
OldSarge | Jun 12, 2011, 11:42 AM EDT
It's been my experience that when you hang out at tourist traps, you get caught. You want to meet real people in real situations, you walk and walk, stop in small shops, small pubs and small churches. Get lost and find your way back. You'll be richer and wiser for it.
jacersagain | Jun 12, 2011, 11:39 AM EDT
I am a Dublin man and I have attended St. Patrick’s Day parades many times. I have never once witnessed the things Ms Sandoval writes of during the Parade or in the streets or in Temple Bar after it. I have seen drunkenness in the evening/night times on St. Patrick’s Day – but that is seen everywhere in Ireland after the people celebrate their national day and is mostly of the merry-making kind. And yes, there is vomit in some places when some people have had too much to drink but that is only at night time, never during the Parades. Ms. Sandoval insults most Irish Traditional music players saying they are best seen in the West of Ireland. Almost every venue in the country where the day is celebrated has a Traditional Irish Music session or a céilí. If ICentral owner Niall O’Dowd wants to put Ireland forward in a good light, he should not allow his minions to publish Ireland-trashing and bashing articles like this above on his site.
ciarrai | Jun 12, 2011, 11:36 AM EDT
The truth hurts. Some Irish people drink too much. Do you care to deny this? Anyone?
stephendoyle | Jun 12, 2011, 11:12 AM EDT
Well,Eva Sandoval, Ireland might be a better place without you scurrying around looking for dirt. Maybe RIO would be a better place for you......
| Jun 12, 2011, 10:50 AM EDT
Well, as far as trad sessions go, there are plenty wonderful sessions in Dublin if you just take the time to look for them. The Harcourt has great sessions and brings in all sorts of artists, the Dublin Sessions page on Facebook is wealth of information. Be wary of writers who use broad strokes, it is usually because they are too lazy to do their research. Dublin ia a marvelous city of mixed cultures, grand museums, shopping galore, and arts. Having been to parades all over the US, it appears that it is a byproduct of Irish American culture that makes everyone Irish on St Patrick's day. Mr Dillon, you have missed the point, the Irish are a free and independent people who need not earn your respect. Now would I go to Mardi Gras in New Orleans with wee children, no, but I love the city and respect its free and easy ways. I love Dublin and since I am older than 16, I can actually survive the site of errant genitalia without swooning.
Newrone | Jun 12, 2011, 10:47 AM EDT
Ah, ye've all just become AmErican! This is what Irish has ALWAYS been about. If you can't join in then stick to the NYC version. Sorry but this strikes me like the Japanese getting "Paris Syndrome" when they go there for the first time with romantic ideas of beautiful women, artists & gourmet food.
goldenblade | Jun 12, 2011, 10:25 AM EDT
I must find myself in agreement in the main with GeorgeDillon - much to my amazement - there is little to be enjoyed on St. Patrick's Day in Dublin (and here is where I disagree - St. Patrick's Day is celebrated worldwide - and its great to see other culture in the parade - none of whom I wager were puking or exposing their genitalia)... its particularly shameful to see how the young (and old) Irish cavort themselves after a few pints ... Its much more enjoyable to go to a parade in the other counties.
DrTrelawney | Jun 12, 2011, 10:23 AM EDT
One more thing about the original article. She states that Temple Bar was once the "Jewish ghetto". Where does this nugget come from. I am fairly sure this is total nonsense. (Incidentally the link to the article is wrong above.)
DrTrelawney | Jun 12, 2011, 10:15 AM EDT
I mean 2011, of course. Though I imagine the comment will still apply next year.
DrTrelawney | Jun 12, 2011, 10:13 AM EDT
All correct. Mind you, I think you're more likely to see bottoms than genitalia on March 17th. St Patrick's Day in Dublin is absolutely horrible, which is why I leave the country every year. Obviously, she's right about suggesting that Dublin is in the UK. You would, however, have to be something of a moron to make that mistake in 2012. This is akin to believing that Paris is in Germany.
sirpeter | Jun 12, 2011, 10:10 AM EDT
In all fairness the pools of vomit and the exposure of male genitalia is much later on after the parade.Exposure of Pudendum Femininum is an extremely rare occurrence in public.Though Georgie's Boys girlfriend has made her contribution much to his chagrin, which can account for the projectile vomiting of large groups of revelers.
LoyalCitizen | Jun 12, 2011, 09:51 AM EDT
I agree with the vomit, but i cannot agree with the genitalia reference.
GeorgeDillon | Jun 12, 2011, 09:47 AM EDT
It's good to see that this writer agrees with my own impressions about St Patrick's Day. Some readers may remember that last March I attacked the Dublin St Patrick's Day parade here in terms similar to Ms Sandoval's. I reported how on my last (in every sense of the word) attendance in Dublin on 3/17 I had been disgusted by the atmosphere downtown. The parade itself was a travesty, having almost nothing of Irish culture, but instead "celebrating" (silly word used by mindless Mass Immigrationists) countries like Pakistan, Nigeria, Poland, even Afghanistan!!! The only Irish in the Parade marched along wrapped in white sheets, trailing balloons and banging bongos. Uncultured Fools. Behind the scenes, in other words in the side streets, it was much worse. As early as noon I saw people drunk, vomiting and fighting. For the non-violent, there was also the Make Love not War version, in which girls perhaps 14 years old were performing fellatio on boys of similar age. I am sure an investigation would have uncovered a range of other sexual variants, all very enjoyable in the right time & place, but disgusting on the streets of a European city at noon. It's very hard to respect the Irish--they don't respect themselves. I hope Ms Sandoval's article gets attention and serves to dissuade well-meaning tourists who wish to join in celebrating Ireland's day in Ireland's capital. My advice to them is --Don't; Dublin is a Dirty Dangerous Dump.