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British human rights official has 'orgy of Irish bashing jokes' on newspaper blog


Douglas Murray

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The British head of an organization set up to help ethnic communities has defended his decision to allow Irish jokes on his Daily Telegraph newspaper blog. Up to 70 jokes have been placed on the blog in what has been described as "an orgy of Irish bashing jokes.”

Douglas Murray, who is head of the Institute of Social Cohesion, took the step after a British local politician was fined for telling an Irish joke in public. He was ordered to pay the money to an Irish-born union representative who overheard the joke and complained.

Murray published the jokes after the case on the grounds that the fine was ridiculous.

"If people honestly think that in a thriving democratic society you can police peoples' humor when it is not illegal then you are going to be in real trouble.

"There are already laws in this country against incitement. They are very clear laws, I speak about them every day of my life. The law has to step in to stop people calling for murder. It is not something that the law does very often, as we know from various Islamist extremist groups.

"But the idea that you can police jokes or humor which is not calling for anyone to be killed but is simply humor, is simply a nonsense. The law cannot legislate about humor. It cannot legislate about whether you find an Irishman joke funny or I find it funny.
 
"Anyone can make any joke that they want, they don't need me to invite them to do so," Murray told the Irish Independent newspaper. "But I think if you want to remind people of the idiocy of a situation where somebody is able to make thousands of pounds by claiming they are offended by a pretty cruddy joke then we're in real trouble."

However, the Irish community in Britain is up in arms over the jokes. Many remember the  "No Blacks, No Irish" signs in various boarding houses in the 1970s and 1980s at the height of the Northern Irish Troubles.

A number of the posts on his site asked whether Murray would invite jokes about Pakistanis or Israelis.

The Irish Department of Foreign Affairs was not happy with the turn of events
“The response to Murray's blog illustrates just why there are protections in place against abusive racial stereotyping," a spokesman said.


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The Brits imperiously overlook the fact that they are now part of the EU and this sort of behaviour negatively affects their standing as a member State. www.navreme.net/downloads/Vol4-11-Glossary.pdf
have a good life maybe we'll meet again on Irish Central "I'll be watching regards.
Rush Limbaugh...first time I've ever been called that. Well, there's a first time for everything. I must say though, sean...you do have a very interesting and rich family history. Thanks also for saying you're not antisemite (a refreshing difference from so many other people I've dealt with) and I apologize to you for saying so.
No I am Irish living in Australia, just to confuse you my father lived in the USA during the great depression,my great grandfather fought for the union in the civil war(navy)and my mother died in NY (1985)whilst visiting some relations. I may be an anti Zionist as I stated many e-mails ago but anti Semite I am not.So long Rush Limbaugh aka IrishAndProud.
I also didn't know there was any such thing as 'middle-of-the-road' fascism or bigotry (which you display against Israel and the Jews, when that topic's come up -- although they're not overrunning other nations, like the Muslims are doing).
Wrong, sean. I'm Irish, but I'm really starting to doubt you're australian...otherwise why would you be bringing up all this American stuff so much? Do they really have that much american tv in Australia, or do you just busy yourself watching their internet? btw about 95% of us on this website use a screen name (as you do)...and you still haven't answered my challenge about how Beck and Coulter have projected this mirage of 50 million muslims in Europe...or where you get YOUR info from.
In other words you are not Irish. the problem is you and you nit pick what I say stray from the argument hide your nationality behind a screen. As far as Beck and Coulter are concerned at least they are up front with their middle of the road fascism and bigotry and proud of their nationality
btw sean, Glen Beck and Anne Coulter last I looked did not have the power to holographically project 50 million muslims (let alone the physical attacks they've carried out) all over Europe. Maybe those two have some sort of scientific power I'm unaware of but if you're privy to it, please share the secret so we can rid ourselves of this mass hallucination they're inflicting on us.
Well thank you for your deep personal concern over me, sean. The fact remains: Islam is invading Ireland, it has no place there, and simple mathematics back me up as to replacement levels and birth rates of these foreigners in Europe. The fact also remains you falsely accused me and others on this post of racism, and you are continuing your passive aggression even with your latest post (which again I point out, you yourself lied by saying that you would make any more of, here). The more I and others have written, the bigger fool you've made of yourSELF, sean, because you have not yet once -- not even a single time -- attempted to directly refute even a single fact or item I've listed in all these posts, on this thread. I might ask where you get YOUR info from, Air America perhaps (though they've just gone bankrupt), or the Huffington Post, maybe? There are all sorts of left-wing sources masquerading as legitimate 'news' that I could point to; you have no 'lock' on information, either. For my part, I no longer automatically think that YOU live in Australia; anyone can put 'melbourne' after their name and claim to be an aussie.
I,d love to know where I am in denial,is it my denial of bigotry.Irish i did not "infer" anything it's your conscience that's making the inference you and sully are just transferring blame to take some moral high ground, I can assure you I am not angry just disappointed. Your the angry person as one can gather from your emotive language.The more you write the bigger the hole you are digging,I am just helping fill in your hole to save you two embarrassment. Maybe your info comes from Glen Beck or Anne Coulter. I do not think you live in Ireland.
Sean, it's called INFERENCE. You INFERRED that a lot of people on this exact post were racists...and I doubt you meant the ones that agreed with you. Therefore (and by default) you meant the ones who DIDN'T agree with you -- meaning us, in other words. This is childish, you pretending that you don't understand that. Then you get called on it by us, and then claim that we're 'racists' because we defended ourselves from your gutless inference. Games like that may work in the schoolyard or the pub, after a few -- but they don't work with everyone. Further, Ireland has lasted thousands of years but they've never had a foreign invasion of the like we're seeing now. And yes...when you falsly accuse someone of something (whilst baiting an answer from them which you then use to repeat the process), that makes you a L-I-A-R. So to, I might add, does saying you're 'through' with this post...before coming right back (which you did).
You did call people racist Sean,you are in denial again.It is in writing.
You did say some people were racist Sean, you are being a denialist again. It is in writing.
My love of mankind is the nerve you hit, but that's beyond your understanding,the truth shall set you free.
What truth sully your meandering into some ethereal universe.




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