Boost for a united Ireland support in new poll figures from Irish Times
Fewer now say that they oppose the idea in the Republic of Ireland
Published Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 7:18 AM
Updated Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 9:39 AM
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Will Hamilton | Dec 01, 2012, 07:57 AM EST
The British did not create partition. The border came into being because a large number of Irish did not want to be ruled by Rome. Considering the banana republic that has resulted here since Independence it looks like they were on the right track. I don't know anybody in Ireland who spends any part of their average week worrying about the North. Most people couldn't care less and certainly wouldn't pay more tax to achieve it. The tax take in the 26 county Republic of Botched doesn't pay for itself as it is.
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puffin | Nov 29, 2012, 02:50 PM EST
Don't see anything newsworthy in this poll,as we were so to speak
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seamus60 | Nov 29, 2012, 10:41 AM EST
What one wants and what one can afford are completely differant on this occassion. Lets not forget that what the people want doesn`t really matter all that much either.
The British have once again been allowed to cover their backs by means of final say regardless. The Gov of the 26 have even pulled their own teeth on the issue. Remember articles 2&3.
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citizen69 | Nov 29, 2012, 01:20 AM EST
@seanomelb: Ok, no problem. Thanks
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seanomelb | Nov 29, 2012, 12:13 AM EST
I was not referring to you citizen69. My post should have read "The anti nationalist posters below" sorry for the confusion.
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mamaginnty | Nov 28, 2012, 04:00 PM EST
Cillowen you are such an eejit. Sinn Feín are second to FG. with supporters, Labour are finished just like FF. Fear of Gerry my ass. Tis you who show the fear...and hatred.
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ancavker | Nov 28, 2012, 02:31 PM EST
tayandcake: What do we do with
Wales??
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citizen69 | Nov 28, 2012, 01:01 PM EST
@IrelandNorth: I think you made a mis-calculation when you state that the 27% of the citizens of the Republic who do not regard NI as part of the Irish nation works out at an average of 1% per county! It's an average of 27% per county. Obviously in some counties the percentage would be higher and in others, lower. @Seanomelb: Please don't call me anti-nationalist, i'm nothing of the sort.
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IrelandNorth | Nov 28, 2012, 09:25 AM EST
Whilst 35% did think Ireland would never be reunited, 45% did think that it would be in an ave of 46 yrs, (36 yrs later than my predictive deadline of the centenary of partition!) While 69% are willing to pay higher taxes for a reunited Ireland, only 64% actually hope for one. Putting púnts where pius political platitudes are is always very convincing. But 5% willing to pay higher taxes for something they would prefer not to see or have no opinion about is difficult to understand? Twice as many respondents considered the whole 32 counties of the entire island of Ireland to constitute the complete nation as did not. 27% in the 26 counties (ie ave 1% per county) thought otherwise. The Irish Times/Ipsos/MRBI poll was described as a 'national' (sic) survey despite be conducted only in the 26 counties. It referred to Rory Mc Ilroy declaring for the 'UK' (sic) instead of GB. Leinster/Munster respondents saw NI as more dual nationality, while FF supporters see them as Irish and are more pro-unity sooner than FG/Lab, differences between supporters and voters notwithstanding. SF less so ironically! Survey pitched in terms of people rather than territory. With the high % of no opinions amongst 18-34 yr olds, one must question the sense of conducting an opinion poll amongst subjects with no opinions? Hmmm!
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Seanmor | Nov 27, 2012, 11:44 PM EST
cillowen: My respect for the queen of England (the country in which I was born) does NOT diminish in any way my desire to see the Irish nation Reunited, having been administered as a single political entity under England for 7½ centuries before Partition was imposed by Westminister in 1920.
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TayandCake | Nov 27, 2012, 07:03 PM EST
Ireland should unite with Scotland to form Pan Celtica
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Gordan Duggan | Nov 27, 2012, 05:51 PM EST
Join up with Norn Ireland? We're not that mad!
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seanomelb | Nov 27, 2012, 05:18 PM EST
The anti nationalists posting below are gumsucking whiners who cannot see the forest for the trees.
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citizen69 | Nov 27, 2012, 04:37 PM EST
Interesting to see what the people of the Republic think. Of course Sinn Fein aligned Irish Central will try to skew the figures by claiming support for a United Ireland is growing when in fact the original article/poll makes no such claim. In this article I.C. state "Irish Times survey shows growing support for a United Ireland" while a few line later it contradicts itself by stating "Sixty-four per cent want to see a United Ireland, down from higher numbers in the 1980s". It's heartening to read that fewer citizens of the Republic now see Northern Ireland as solely Irish (30%) while almost half the people recognize it as British & Irish. Interesting that more Fine Gael voters want a United Ireland than Sinn Fein voters. Also SF voters were more likely to think a United Ireland will never happen... Not a lot of confidence in the SF leadership then!
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